Cataclysm [Guide] PvE In depth guide of the Arms Warrior

[Kelthuzzad]

Against chimaeron. Bad/good/intermediate?

I would say that is actually intermediate... You should do way more dps then just 33k... You should also try to replace your heart of rage with something else :) With your gear i would say you need to do waaay more dps :) You should improve :)

By the way is that Baradin Hold? As far as im aware Chimearon is from BWD XD

[zhangwei]

I would say that is actually intermediate... You should do way more dps then just 33k... You should also try to replace your heart of rage with something else :) With your gear i would say you need to do waaay more dps :) You should improve :)

By the way is that Baradin Hold? As far as im aware Chimearon is from BWD XD

Ahhh yes, its against occuthar sorry >.<
Btw im done that 33k dps with no stance dancing and with 300++ latency. I will try to improve it thanks :D

[Kelthuzzad]

Ahhh yes, its against occuthar sorry >.<
Btw im done that 33k dps with no stance dancing and with 300++ latency. I will try to improve it thanks :D

Well if it is Occuthar you should use the fight mechanics to your advantage... By using Sweeping strikes and Bladestorm when those adds spawn if i remember correctly... At least i remember i did that to get an huge dps increase in that fight.. Well you should not stance dance if you have such huge latency but it does make a 1-2k dps loss cause of the 5% increased damage :/ It can be also because of your high latency and delay that makes your dps lower then usual since its a real pain in the *** to pull it off efficant... I remember when i had some lag problems and it was hopeless to stance dance but it was on moltens part and not mine XD No problem and i hope you can become better :) Everything you need.. You can find it in my guide otherwise you can just ask me again :)

[xLazzer]

Hey thares , i'm seeking for some advice on my Dps , please look at the screenshots.



That's the initial burst at the start of the fight with hero , pot and cds , the peak i got was 74.8k.



And that's at the end of the fight , it dropped a lot. I'd like to know which aspect of my dps should i improve to maintain it.

I forgot to get screenshots of the other bosses :/ , next raid i'll make them.

[Kelthuzzad]

Hey thares , i'm seeking for some advice on my Dps , please look at the screenshots.



That's the initial burst at the start of the fight with hero , pot and cds , the peak i got was 74.8k.



And that's at the end of the fight , it dropped a lot. I'd like to know which aspect of my dps should i improve to maintain it.

I forgot to get screenshots of the other bosses :/ , next raid i'll make them.

I actually think that DPS is good according to your item level so i am not sure what advice i should give you cause i dont know what the problem is really dude :) It looks really good to me. You have to tell me more details or talk to me ingame :)

[Festival]

change your neck i mean more str = more ap = more static dps
http://cata.openwow.com/item=77090 this is little better, and from vp so you can easy take this one.

your dps its really good, i do on last boss somting like 60/62k on 10m (frostwolf) but your burst phase is awesome, no idea how you make that much, maybe gult + your trinket ( my armory link http://armory.molten-wow.com/charact...val/Frostwolf/ )

edit: ow and you can pick this http://cata.openwow.com/item=71992 from bs - haste its ****ty stat, you need little expe somting like 18, and here you have +1 slot where you can add 50str

[Kevinator]

I actually think that DPS is good according to your item level so i am not sure what advice i should give you cause i dont know what the problem is really dude :) It looks really good to me. You have to tell me more details or talk to me ingame :)

Like others said your dps is pretty good but 1 tip which i might suggest is replacing the rotting skull with BLF/Creche preferably BLF and seeing how it goes from there. It probably will boost your dps a bit more. Another thing is to scratch of that hit do anything u can to get it off+ replace your neck and ring STR=More AP=More dps so thats important . Last tip is to use pre poting its so op.
But like thares said without seeing your rotation or what the actual problem is we cant really help as much. but its good with your ilvl after u get higher ilvl you will probably start to see the extra 2-5k dps since arms scales heavily with ilvl (strength) really well.
Hope this helped>:)

[Owlkin]

Hm, I'm just wondering what kind of raid food I should be using to maximize my DPS? I've been using the baked fish for 90 crit / 90 Stamina, but should I be using the 90 strength / 90 Stamina food instead? I am pre-potting with Golemblood and using Titanic flask for strength, so I figured the extra crit might be worth more, but I'd like other warriors opinions about it as well.

[xLazzer]

Thanks for the tips guys , i got my neck with some leftover vp i had and i'll get bracer soon.

Here's a screenshot of the damage my abilities did.



I think i'm doing way too few overpower and too much slam. Any ideas?

[Kelthuzzad]

Hm, I'm just wondering what kind of raid food I should be using to maximize my DPS? I've been using the baked fish for 90 crit / 90 Stamina, but should I be using the 90 strength / 90 Stamina food instead? I am pre-potting with Golemblood and using Titanic flask for strength, so I figured the extra crit might be worth more, but I'd like other warriors opinions about it as well.

Yes the Crit is very benefical but it is always the STR that is the 1st thing to prio since it increases your damage overall and Crit is luck basted so but its your own choice really :)

@xLazzer: It's much better if we could meet ingame so we can chat a bit :) But usually i think i have Overpower more in my rotation but Slam and maybe Heroic strike as well as MS will be high in the Skada/Recount :) It was so long time ago i played so :D

[Owlkin]

Yes the Crit is very benefical but it is always the STR that is the 1st thing to prio since it increases your damage overall and Crit is luck basted so but its your own choice really :)

@xLazzer: It's much better if we could meet ingame so we can chat a bit :) But usually i think i have Overpower more in my rotation but Slam and maybe Heroic strike as well as MS will be high in the Skada/Recount :) It was so long time ago i played so :D

Alright, I'll go with strength food from now on and let my chance to crit handle itself through procs and equipment stats.

[Kevinator]

Kel just a question i theorycrafted back a while with arms and saw that slam out weighs hs most of the time.
I tried using rotation without hs and saw slam do alot more after that i did test with just hs and that did less.
I then mixed them and found that if you prio slam before hs when all other abilities are on cd u get better output of damage instead of using hs. This ofc also means i use hs aswell just not when all other abilities are on cd. The slam spam when op/ms/cs are on cd are boosting dps instead of hs.
Got anything to say about this?

[Owlkin]

I'm wondering what your reasoning are when you put Runescriven Demon Collar as the BiS instead of the Heroic Demonbone Waistguard? Doesn't the amount of crit gained from the heroic Demonbone Waistguard outweight the stats you gain from Heroic Runescriven Demon Collar?

I compared the two, with Bold Queen's Garnets in all sockets, Ebonsteel on both for extra socket and reforged Runescriven's haste into 87 Crit, but in the end Runescriven comes out with 20 Strength, 19 Mastery and 131 haste more while Demonbone Waistguard provides 165 more crit. While Strength trumps Crit, it isn't by a whole lot in this case and according to your guide, Crit > Mastery > Haste.

Just wondering if the Heroic Demonbone Waistguard is BiS based on the crit increase or not.

[Swarlity]

Heroic Demonbone is not obtainable ingame. Molten did put all the heroic VP items in the marketplace though so you can only get it with coins.

[Owlkin]

Heroic Demonbone is not obtainable ingame. Molten did put all the heroic VP items in the marketplace though so you can only get it with coins.

Whether or not it's obtainable in-game is not the point.