Farming and body camping lowies should be forbidden !

[Kemii]

^^^^ this

ppl that never played retail don't know how much better the quality of PvP is on PvE servers

#BringBackPetBattles

yes, so much pvp..

Running around Silvermoon EU's Timeless Isle with Blood Coins buff, no-one dared attack me on my badly geared frost mage... I mean I was practically a free kill and flagged for factionless PvP.

#JustPvERealmThings.

[bull87]

You are wrong. This doesn't happen at all on retail. Think about it for a second why don't you? On retail, people who do not want to get harrassed while doing non pvp things have option to join a PvE server and then it is impossible. Players here do not have this option. So, the only people who have ever been attacked in world in retail have OPTED FOR THAT. Over half of all WoW players opt for PvE server, they do not have the option here. This is really the biggest problem with Warmane (and most private servers in general). Players who CHOOSE to be able to world PvP and thus also be world PvPed while leveling up have that choice in retail and we should add the toggle-PvP flag here. This is one place where we fail miserably compared to retail. It basically amounts to over half of all Wow players (the ones that prefer PvP toggle flag) get harrassed and have bad game experience. That's what we want here, to give over half of all players a bad game experience. Something needs to be rethought.

It would be huge really if Warmane would implement that. Because it is rare in the private server world we would gain many more players from retail and own the private server market. And the PvP on a PvE server is greatly superior over a PvP server. Thats what people do not understand, PvP doesn't get worse for PvPers on a PvE server, it gets better. The world pvp is more organized and tougher because everyone fighting is a willing participant and the BGs get more participation and smarter players. And quite frankly, an opportunity for staff to make the biggest improvement they have ever made to improve GREATLY the game for over half of its players in one easy swipe and really it will improve the PvP experience for 99% of all players to some extent. The 1% are actually worthless inept chumps that ONLY can kill players 80 levels lower than themselves and would not adapt to the new system. So we'd probably gain 10,000 new players and lose 100 (and yes I rounded the percentages to 1% its an estimate not exact numbers). (assumes somehow we properly get the word out that we a true PvP toggle server like retail).

I never distinguished between PVP and PVE server. I was referring exclusively to PvP server, which is what we have. And in retail same thing happens, there are multiple threads of people complaining about being harassed and demanding for some kind of dishonorable kill system. AND they do have an option for PvE server. That option doesn't exist here and, let's be realistic, will never be. Never have I came across a private PvE server to be honest.

I don't harass low level players, sometimes I do get mad when it happens to me but didn't stop me from getting to 90 twice in the month I've spent here. Hyjal tends to be the most problematic area personally, but complaining that leveling up is not possible is just a sorrow excuse really.

[kp9911]

Its part of the game...

PVE servers are also part of the game so lets do one thing shall we? Since you are all PvP fan boys, you are not allowed to quest and raid and gain rep, since that's like a OMG PvE thing. We would not want to see you doing PvE stuff right you big macho guy.

If you are really getting camped for 30 minutes then you are as responsible for it as the ganker.

Ignorance is a bliss they say, yet this comment takes the cake. I really wonder how a lvl 60 lowbie is the cause for himself to get killed over and over again! ROFL, did you even think before you typed this out?

Would you rape a woman just because she has walked out of her house? Fair thing for me to say as well right?

Assuming this is your first character, the best thing to do is simply alt+F4 and never come back. EVER.

Fixed it for you. Warmane should not get new players! At least I think so since the staff refuse to address this.

When they have nothing to kill, go to a BG, thats what they are there for!

Fixed.

Some players (including me) enjoy killing gankers.

Good for you kind sir! I'm sure you're gonna help each and every person that has a ganking issue!

lol if you want a pve server go pay for it.

Aww isnt this cute, we do know the reason you are here yourself! Or are we wrong? The plot thickens!

Their focus should be on scripting content, not protecting lowbies from level 90 nabs preying on them.

Well said! At least someone understands that more content = less time for lowbie ganks. Hopefully the rest of your comments have some intellectual capacity.

Level somewhere else or take a break. World pvp in a pvp server is much more fun,

Nope unfortunately your stoke of genius expired here. If you have to win with this kinda of fact, then give people the option of a PVE realm as well! Its not fair at all that people who only want to PvE have to put up with this ****.

nobody likes dealing with that stupid ****ing pvp flag and the way people will exploit it here makes it an even worse idea.

Speaking for everyone now are we? Didnt know that enabling your pvp flag, broke all your fingers! yikes!

Didn't know we were playing World of Friendcraft...

Didnt know we were playing world of lowbie gank craft either!

PvP realms is how this game is meant to be played.

Knowing how stubborn blizzard is, I'm sure they have good reason to have PvE realms as well.

Look at virtually every cinematic for WoW. It isn't an Orc and Human holding hands and doing quests quests together. Its them killing each other. I'm sorry, but I for one would hate a PvE realm, and I don't even gank anyone. It just adds to the roleplaying element.

Yup sure it does! Lets all go around killing lowbies since it adds to the roleplaying element! And while we're at it, lets make cinematics as well, so we can show what actually happens on PvP realms!

[Evangelion]

Just write on global and usually someone will come, if nobody comes - logout on 15-20 minutes and do something irl and come back. You can also just go to some other questing hub (Near that Armory).
I guess it's your first character, so you want to get it to level 90 as soon as possible, but still, you can't do much against these things.

And all that talk about PvE server, the thing is, Warmane can barely fill the servers they have so I doubt opening a new one and dividing community is a smart idea at this moment.

[zzadr]

Bring back pet battles!!!

You are kind of off topic there...

I leveled 3 chars here and RARELY had any ganking problem so the issue may come from you. Learn to avoid being ganked. Part of the game too.
In fact MOP was the most friendly realm i've ever leveled in, players of the opposite faction mostly ignoring you and even trying to help you from time to time!
I think this is partly due to the cross faction talking. I hope they never remove this feature even if its not fu**in blizzlike.

[lucifer1812]

Ally tend to do that at Thralmar every day, go in bgs dont just kill low players.

[Stellarcrusade]

Didn't know we were playing World of Friendcraft...

PvP realms is how this game is meant to be played. Look at virtually every cinematic for WoW. It isn't an Orc and Human holding hands and doing quests quests together. Its them killing each other. I'm sorry, but I for one would hate a PvE realm, and I don't even gank anyone. It just adds to the roleplaying element.

Nonetheless, Warmane should hold a poll to see what majority of the community thinks, I guess...

Funny. Most Wow players on retail prefer the PvE, and thats not an estimate, thats what the usage charts show. And PvP realms is NOT the way it is meant to be played. It is meant to be played both PvP realms and PvE realms. Stop and think about the ignorance of your statement and look at what retail servers are, which is, by definition, how the game is meant to be played. That's like saying, I have only 1 arm, and thats the way people were meant to be designed. Blizzard decides how the game is meant to be played, and they have.

Now, all idiocy asside, the best PvP and the most adept PvPers (like the ones you call friendcraft players), play on PvE servers once they realize that the best PvP is there. On other MMOs like SWTOR there is a strong battle ground/PvP presence in lower and mid levels, and many argue the best bgs are in the lower levels. On WOW especially low population private servers there is really no PvP until top level. Players level up, either rage quitting or ignoring the ganking until max level then start doing BGs. Simply delaying them or rage quitting them just reduces our BG numbers, and our overall server population. As far as I can tell if that were the goal, that would be the only reason to leave it as it is. Its not like the level 50 player is participating in world PvP when he is killed, and they only time he participates is if another low level is questing in the same area as him. A mild skirmish may happen for a second.

PvE server people are ready every time they fight, PvP intelligence goes way up, and true PvPers are seperated from posers. That's where it is at.

[-Notorious-]

I get that you would like to play in a PvE realm. Nonetheless, you don't need to aid your argument with lies. Let me break this down for you.

Funny. Most Wow players on retail prefer the PvE, and thats not an estimate, thats what the usage charts show.

Proof?

And PvP realms is NOT the way it is meant to be played. It is meant to be played both PvP realms and PvE realms. Stop and think about the ignorance of your statement and look at what retail servers are, which is, by definition, how the game is meant to be played. That's like saying, I have only 1 arm, and thats the way people were meant to be designed. Blizzard decides how the game is meant to be played, and they have.

This is the most confusing bit of your post. You say yourself "It is meant to be played both PvP realms and PvE realms." but then say "And PvP realms is NOT the way it is meant to be played." Umm, okay.

Now, all idiocy asside, the best PvP and the most adept PvPers (like the ones you call friendcraft players), play on PvE servers once they realize that the best PvP is there.

This is just a flat out lie. I will prove to you exactly how wrong you are.

Current 3v3 EU arena ladder
The top realms:
Ravencrest
Aegwynn
Sylvanas
Outland
Note how all of these are PvP realms?

But wait, maybe its just a European thing, I'm sorry, let me check North America.
Current 3v3 NA arena ladder
The top realms:
The famous Tichondrius
Darkspear
Bleeding Hollow

I don't want to bother going through the rest of the list (as expected, 75% is Tichondrius anyways)


In light of the above, the rest of your post is hilarious indeed. I'll leave it here so you remember to double check your facts before posting nonsense.

PvE server people are ready every time they fight, PvP intelligence goes way up, and true PvPers are seperated from posers. That's where it is at.

[Watamote]

You are wrong. This doesn't happen at all on retail.

I lol'd. You've never played retail obviously.

Seriously though. Here is a tip that will help you with lowbie gankers.

Step 1: Type the following:

/join global

"Hey, there are a bunch of noobs ganking level 60s in Thrallmar/Honor Hold. They are x class and have y amount of HP and are saying you're all afraid to come and fight them."

Wait 45 seconds. Repeat.

Chances are extremely high you will get at LEAST one person who is already on their way to utterly destroy them. If that is not enough, continue step 1. More will come. I've seen results vary tremendously here. More often than not, the annoying aspie kid who is ganking you and your peers will end up being the one who gets camped. He will then cry like a *****, moan about how unfair it is that people with better gear are camping him, then log out.

[kp9911]

@mods, please just close this thread, its becoming nothing but a flame fest, I'm guilty as well.

Its not leading to anything concrete right now.

[markshand]

PVE servers are also part of the game


give people the option of a PVE realm as well! Its not fair at all that people who only want to PvE have to put up with this ****.

Yes they are part of the game.... BUT you willingly join a private PvP server (you cant say you would have joined a PvE server because here and now YOU'RE ON WARMANE) ... so now all of your comments and nonchalant sarcasm are wasted..... Yes in a PvE Server you wouldn't be ganked... But private PvE servers are rare like a uni-possum (unicorn+opossum).

onto do i approve of ganking.... no i dont it's sad and pathetic... YAY your 500k hp pala can 1shot my 9k mage ...WOO HOO FOR YOU. With that being said i have leveled 1-90 at least 15 different toons since the great Moltdown of Jan. 2015. (keyword leveled not insta-90)... getting ganked sucks but if you keep rezzing while getting camped IT IS YOUR OWN STUPIDITY for rezzing.

[Stellarcrusade]

Its funny when XxNeverrightxX tries to refute something, shows his intelligence (or lack there of I guess). He likes to argue but arguing with him is like arguing with a tree stump.

Proof? Blizzard has always maintained PvE is more popular. It varies between 55-65% of players depending on the expansion. Currently US servers favor more than EU, but it averages out to around 53% PvE last time I checked.

https://realmpop.com/us.html

Try reading what I say before replying to it saying you do not understand it. It really makes you look bad. When I say Its not meant to be PvP, but PvP AND PvE please notice the AND in the statement. Grab a dictionary and look up the meaning of AND. Tell you what, I'll help you out, since I'm generous. It means (exactly what it says) that Wow by definition has always given players the option to be PvE or a PvP server (hence this is why they offer BOTH). Slow down, go back and read it a few times, don't worry, you'll get it eventually.

I've played on 7 different servers and paid for 2 subscriptions simultaneously for 8 years on retail (this way I could play 2 accts and my brother could play one when we play together). I've been on big population servers, and smaller ones, I've also played on 6 different private servers (which will remain nameless due to forum rules, but if you want names PM me). So I've seen it all, and what I do on all servers is PvP, and its always been the best on PvE servers. I've never done much PvE. I offer my perspective to help advance the discussion. And you should be glad I do not just sit around and pick apart your contributions instead.... But its funny watching you try arguing instead of contributing

Now, post if you have something to add to the discussion next time, we already know you like the low intelligence PvP experience, lets say your vote has been registered.

[kp9911]

Yes they are part of the game.... BUT you willingly join a private PvP server

There is no choice here genius! You can only say "willingly" when you have a choice. Otherwise its a term called "forced", go read it up if you never heard of it.

The pro PvP players can have this stupid argument, since its obvious we're wasting our breath. I can only imagine the debate if it was a PvE server rather than a PvP one, but whatever it is a game after all, I will not allow it to play with my emotions anymore. This is the reason why I quit before and probably the same reason I will quit now and not because its a PvP server, but because of all the ******s on it.

I am quite done with this topic, its obvious that the admins do not care for such pity issues and will not even address it, it is Blizz like after all. Till then stay happy and gank more lowbies, since that's what most of the server is fit for anyway.

Till then I really do hope Warmane does not grow in population! Perhaps then they would understand the plight of PvE players.

[Watamote]

Arguing whether or not it's part of the game is pointless. The bottom line is: GMs aren't going to stop people from doing it, nor are the server developers-- neither on here or on retail.

People are stupid and do annoying things like gank lowbies or beg for gold in Stormwind or dig up every mining node on the map leaving only garbage in them. The only way to realistically stop people from doing these things is to close the server.

Since that is the case, the OP and others being ganked should be focusing more on what they are going to do about it instead of expecting other players to collectively stop repeating the behavior that is causing their problem.

[Dauzau]

But ganking is fun. Why are you mad, people?