This is very good and encouraging chance for you to get better, which is what you should always aspire for.
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AT>Warsong, it's not even close. You don't lose out on anything by going AT Cata except quests and some pve bull****, it's supposed to be a PVP server.
Go play on Neth if you're ganna whine about Warsong going away, Warsong was boring, AT Cata is so much better.
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The AT die hards are strong in this thread. If you guys want pure Pvp with your holier-than-thou AT core go play Blackrock and have a jerk circle there.
I'm out of here if AT core comes in and Warsong is white washed into the an un-social, cold and down-right boring server that was your precious AT Cata
Go to Blackrock and leave us alone ty thnx bai
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i don't understand why people don't wanna changes we will have lot of things more funny for full pvp, they will juste remove pve things (warsong=pvp only) so all we have to do is pvp/arena/bg mogs and all free change faction /race so i think AT is best for this , for these people who like pve neltharion is waiting for you guys you can do all day pve+pvp so go on -__-
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We want the PvE for the opportunity to make yourself stand out. For funny *** bugged quest items, character changing items, for exclusive mounts, titles, companions, xmogs. All the things that make you excited about playing and showing off what you've just found/achieved.
I don't want to play a dead server with 3 NPC's who do everything.
Its a PvP server under the understanding that we know we can't expect people to be out questing or doing instances. The core bit of WoW.
And finally, learn to play with the bugs, this isn't retail. We learned to play from the scratch up again after losing months of work. Life goes on.
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You still don't understand why people picked Warsong over Neltharion. Everyone has their reasons, but honestly they would be at neltharion if they wanted to be. Part of the community seems to want to keep what pve things are in Warsong. It's not like we are asking for Raids/Dungeons to be opened. Just to keep what PvE Aspect to Warsong that there is. Again if you can have the AT Core while we keep the PvE stuff (Mobs/quests) Then everyone would be happy. We are not asking for PvE items like what we have available at the PvE Vendors. But honestly you come off as anyone who thinks differently than you should be condemned and not have a voice. Guess what everyone is entitled to share their opinions regardless if you like it or not.
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I've played Warsong since 2011 and I honestly can't count how many times those little PvE side-projects have saved me from quitting the server from PvP-burnout. For example, after I cool off for like 20 mins with rep grinds or something, I'm down to PvP again. The only extended period of time I've stopped playing Warsong was when I was away/Moltdown. The people who think having these little features defeats the purpose of a PvP server need to know that forcing people into PvP by removing everything else will only force them to log off after they've had their fill of grinding honor/conquest/rating/ranks/achievements, rather than staying online and cooling off with some, comparitively minor, refreshing content. We need people ONLINE, not otherwise, you've seen the numbers. Quests/mobs/professions will NOT detract from the cata PvP experience, don't be disillusioned.
We need to reach a compromise, something we should have done when Warsong was first re-opened. A true merge of Warsong/AT is one that merges not only players, but content as well.
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Exactly! I would love to see a compromise of the 2 cores. I just wish people would understand just this.
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As i said earlier my "pve fan boys", The only thing Molten core gave us was pointless MOBS on a pvp server, nothing else. Bugged spells, bugged mmr system, not working achievements (pvp wise), 80 min bg Q's, 80min 3s Q's, 5-10 min Q's in 2s - 2.6k+ mmr, No features (duel cd reset, spectator npc, xmog npc, soloQ, faction / race change, outdoor pvp), etc...
If you want to go questing and using your OP pve trinkets go Neltharion.
We all can clearly see you dont give a sˇ#&@ about competitive arena, especially on high rating, so please guys do us a favor, all 4-5 of you, just stop whining here about your pve things / quests (still funny) and change server..
Oh and Waffies, Blackrock is Wotlk not Cata... Hope you will enjoy your last week here.
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I don't get why you have to be so rude to people who don't agree with you. I personally never said anything about PvE trinkets, as I too believe that they should be removed. Also, how can you assume that people who are concerned with the well-being of Warsong "don't give a ****" about a competitive PvP? Always remember that resorting to insults only hurts your argument, as it becomes more difficult to take you seriously.
A complete core change will not be the magical solution to all Warsong's problems, we need to build on what we have. The addition of spectator NPC was a step in the right direction. Alienating a big part of the realm's player base is a bad idea. There are reasons why we play HERE, NOT Neltharion. If you don't like it, perhaps you should change server? (see, it works both ways). And all those bugs and stuff you mentioned earlier can be FIXED, and those awesome features from AT can be ADDED.
It will take some work, yes, but we can make it work.
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Couldn't have said it any better. People are too ignorant and self centered about their thoughts, they don't even bother understanding where the person is coming from. You are right, we shouldn't take them serious.
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I really don't care if the warsong population just quits. Not at all... if you're not interested in a better core just remove yourself.
In the end Warsong is a PVP realm and anyone interested in pvp should be more than willing to see changes go in the right direction which this AT core is.
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Guys, everybody is laughing at both of you, but you are too "self centered" to even realize it, which makes you even more dumb.
There is a reason behind Core change. It takes too much effort / time to add features + fix the tons of bugs.
I am pretty sure that less than 1% of the population cares about your mobs. Why do you farm mobs? For Xmogs right? Now you have to do "pvp" for those Xmogs on a PVP server. I know it's sounds weird for both of you, but on a PVP server everybody wants to do PVP, not PVE..
We can continue this discussion for a long time, until you guys understand the role of a PVP server.Edited: August 25, 2015
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We can also continue this discussion for a long time until you guys also understand the important role of side things in a PvP server.
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It's not surprising that both sides have grown sentimental of the features they enjoyed, for instance the AT players enjoy the pure 100% pvp oriented playstyle, and the Warsong players enjoyed the pvp focused, open sandbox.
And I totally agree with getting transmogs from PvP, that is if they actually put every single transmog set in there. Same with titles and mounts. If they do this, than you might be on to something.
If they really don't have the time to work on Warsong, and that this core change is the absolute only option, then I can accept that.
