Think about you are ally, queing 20m and then lose the bg :D
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I never understood the idea of getting a gear requirement for bgs, the only way to get geared in pvp is bgs, ofc u can do dungeons for some gear but me, myself I find it really boring so I rather do bgs eventho I get one shotted all the time lmao. ofc I have to raid later for bis gear and stuff but not rn
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If the merger happens it will really help. I see more shadowmournes and healers alliance side and less horde side now. Not unusual for an alli random to get two shadomournes and 2-3 healers whilst horde gets maybe one heal. These are ransoms mind you not PM's, because a pm will have more.
As for the whole gear requirement thing, it really doesn't make sense. You can't do the arena games for relentless without honor (although you could by honor with points but this would add months) and if you're expecting players to go raid for EoF relentless that's going to take even longer. And even then they are going to get steamrolled by players who are geared for PvP and not PvE with some measly relentless pieces, so just no.
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Why does everyone praise and worship shadowmourne like it's the coming of Jesus or something?
Has anyone actually ran the numbers it does vs other weapons in game to see the difference?
Everyone who donates shadowmourne instantly also learns to become good in pvp as well right?
Why does everyone drool over a weapon only 3 classes can use? I'll never understand that at all
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It`s your BiS Weapon duct taped to your BiS Trinket, with another 200 bonus DPS added to it
It`s impressive, sure, but it`s not as impressive as you might believe, it`s basically you getting another item slot, when you have 17 or so in total. Ie, your DPS increases by 7 or 8%.
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'Cause, for example, it's one of the only weapons that can still go through the Deterrence of a Hunter with a melee swing thanks to it's magic damage.
No one is stating that it makes you professional in PvP immediatly - But most of the players that I see in Ragnaros only have the gear carrying their asses.
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My *** is so big that I actually had to buy extra large gear to fit.
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It is what it is.
*My 10 Suggestions for my fellow Hordes*
1st off - I roll Horde all day.
2nd - Alliance have better PvP racials then Horde, but that shouldn't be new to anyone since this game has been out well more then a decade now.
3rd - Join a decent PvP guild.
4th - Make a damn healer alt, I have just as much fun healing as I do DPS'n, getting focused by 3-4 Ally and still surviving gives me more satisfaction than any HK does, I BG to play tactically and try to get the "W" if I need to show how big my dong is I'll go World PvP.
5th - Horde doesn't focus heals period. Some do, most don't, see it everyday.
6th - Horde needs more Rogues and Druids to go North in AV and not "roll with the group."
7th - Eye of the Storm, 1 flag capped = less points earned then if your team has 3 bases held. Adjust as needed of course, if both teams are in a 2 base held stalemate then throw some at the flag.
8th - DEFENSE this one goes for AV because that's were I see it the most. Seems like most Horde have some sort of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and can't wait 4 mins for a bunker to burn, what's 4 mins in an AV? NOTHING! 4 mins isn't crap, the Alliance will come, trust me, especially if you hold them off for the first min or two, they will come, they always do.
9th - Isle of Conquest, I don't care if you're 6k GS, You're not exempt from driving a demo, quit playing stupid and drivie (I try to be the first one to drive on all my MDPS alts YOU SHOULD TOO!)
10th - Play to have fun! Furious gear is so easy to get, for me a mix of PoS farms mixed with wins from BGs will get you a 5 set fast. I don't remember the exact numbers but it was like 35 Emblems of Triumph for gloves vs 50k honor for the same piece, which is like 11 PoS runs vs how ever much honor you can get from BGs, other pieces are different where lets say legs are faster to get with honor than farming triumphs. If you're guild isn't willing to help you reach the goals you want then it isn't the guild for you...
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how do you figure? the horde have great racials granted mostly offensive ones but timed up correctly can be devastating. Tha alliance has more defensive racials.
stone form is pointless against some classes. shadowmeld is pointless against anyone who has a brain. ill give you will of the forsaken as being only half useful but i still find it more game changing vs stone form and shadowmeld.
its the same on alliance side of things.
actually they do focus heals a lot. again this goes for both sides.
no one does that. no one.
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Shadowmeld makes u able to avoid all incoming dmg.
For example, a lock cast chaosbolt and the spell is travelling to the nightelf. If the nightelf use now shadowmeld he can completely avoid the dmg of the incoming chaosbolt and of all other spells that are currently travelling to the nightelf.
In certain situations this can be a life saver.
For example when fighting against LSP and the lava burst/chaosbolt is getting avoided with shadowmeld.
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I cant totally agree with this statement. I cant count how many times i won arena by using arcane torrent (belf racial) at the key time of the match, but surely more than i lost cause oom w/o second pve trinket.
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PvP on Rag & Deathwing is gonna be unbalanced for a long time this is why I'm playing Blackrock at the moment. When I do play on Deathwing I'm usually playing my resto Orc shaman I and feel the pain of those shadowmourne warriors and paladins even with 1100 resilience they hit ****ing hard with offset PvE for the extra damage.
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I played as healer both side, one thing I do learn i.e. while Ally is usually more protective to their healer, and Horde isnt
you cant expect healer to heal you if the opposing team is targeting your healer first, right ?
while fighting, use CC instead of just hitting the enemy (who is targeting to your healer) ; thus giving your healer more chance of survival and able to heal you as well
this usually happens of random BG (non pre-made)
just my cent :)
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We runs PM on horde side and win 99% time, if not in PvP guild it gonna be hard. It the same will random ally BG, they lose 85% time too.
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Wipe off your tears and join PvP guild?
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