Dodgykebaab's "Private Server Awards 2015 - World Of Warcraft" video

[jkadnsg]

As a player, I don't disagree with you. People have their reasons for having their beefs, and **** happens. But he's not just a player. He's a reviewer. As such, people look to him for facts and unbiased information.

And I don't care if you do disagree with me. I feel he's quite fair and accurate with his facts, hell i've even taken his word and gone off and played on many other private servers that he's suggested and more then often find his reviews completely true, if you don't or haven't followed up on his reviews, that's on you. I don't care, I'm not trying to change your mind after all, I just want other people out there to know they aren't alone and that there are people that agree with Dodge and if they don't find a home here on Warmane, I can only hope they find some where to call home and if Dodgy helps them get their, great! Good for them and him.

[Lynea]

Well what do you want him to review? MoP really isn't any better off then Cata and WoTLK (L) doesn't even have all of it's endgame content yet. So seriously, what do you think he should review to give an award to WM?

Now I totally bet you anything that WM get a big ole awesome reward next yet when they get everything on Lordaeron done, but til then, there just isn't enough to go off of.

He can give awards as he wishes, I suppose. I'm obviously biased towards Warmane, and as a result, I feel that it's wrong to exclude the server from that listing. But, I'm pretty sure Dodgy said he'd avoid covering Lordaeron until it was "ready". That would mean that the only material he has to use is sub-par.

At the same time, though, is it a comparison of servers or realms? By servers, I mean "Warmane", for example. It's a server that hosts realms for 3 expansions. Does he cover more than just a single expansion or realm type for any other servers? (Yes.) Why doesn't he use Warmane as a greater whole? He's excluding MoP, the older Wrath realms, and the AT pvp realms (Blackrock & Warsong). The standard Cataclysm realm is only a small part of what Warmane has to offer.

Would it change the outcome of his video? Probably not, since he is biased against Warmane. If he weren't biased, would it in that case? I think it would. Currently, excluding Lordaeron, I wouldn't rate Warmane higher than other servers that specialize in a single expansion, especially for that specific expansion. But as a whole, Warmane offers a lot of options and choices, along with population and the promise of future development (@Lordaeron).

And I don't care if you do disagree with me. I feel he's quite fair and accurate with his facts, hell i've even taken his word and gone off and played on many other private servers that he's suggested and more then often find his reviews completely true, if you don't or haven't followed up on his reviews, that's on you. I don't care, I'm not trying to change your mind after all, I just want other people out there to know they aren't alone and that there are people that agree with Dodge and if they don't find a home here on Warmane, I can only hope they find some where to call home and if Dodgy helps them get their, great! Good for them and him.

I didn't say I disagree with you. I said I don't. Also, this is a discussion forum. If you don't like people giving their opinions and thoughts, then I don't know why you're posting here. :/

[jkadnsg]

He can give awards as he wishes, I suppose. I'm obviously biased towards Warmane, and as a result, I feel that it's wrong to exclude the server from that listing. But, I'm pretty sure Dodgy said he'd avoid covering Lordaeron until it was "ready". That would mean that the only material he has to use is sub-par.

At the same time, though, is it a comparison of servers or realms? By servers, I mean "Warmane", for example. It's a server that hosts realms for 3 expansions. Does he cover more than just a single expansion or realm type for any other servers? (Yes.) Why doesn't he use Warmane as a greater whole? He's excluding MoP, the older Wrath realms, and the AT pvp realms (Blackrock & Warsong). The standard Cataclysm realm is only a small part of what Warmane has to offer.

Would it change the outcome of his video? Probably not, since he is biased against Warmane. If he weren't biased, would it in that case? I think it would. Currently, excluding Lordaeron, I wouldn't rate Warmane higher than other servers that specialize in a single expansion, especially for that specific expansion. But as a whole, Warmane offers a lot of options and choices, along with population and the promise of future development (@Lordaeron).


I didn't say I disagree with you. I said I don't. Also, this is a discussion forum. If you don't like people giving their opinions and thoughts, then I don't know why you're posting here. :/

I'm totally cool with you giving your opinion, in fact i'd punch someone in the face if they tried to take your opinion or anyone else's opinion away. "I" just personally don't care (or may not care) what someone's opinion is. If you agree with me, great. If not, oh well. no sweat off my back babycakes.

Back to Dodge:

I just feel there really isn't a lot of great things going on in WM right now "OUTSIDE of Lordaeron" for him to give reviews and awards to and I think it's more respectful of him to not give Lord a review right now, til WM says it's done, but I have no doubt he's playing here some and keeping an eye out.

I bet you and anyone else out there that Dodgy would love to give WM a great review and an award for a job well done and I'm more then sure we'll see that day soon enough, just now isn't that time and WM know's it to.

[Anorien16]

Well what do you want him to review? MoP really isn't any better off then Cata and WoTLK (L) doesn't even have all of it's endgame content yet. So seriously, what do you think he should review to give an award to WM?

Now I totally bet you anything that WM get a big ole awesome reward next yet when they get everything on Lordaeron done, but til then, there just isn't enough to go off of.

Among the Servers mentioned positively in that Video there is a Progression Server that is in the Vanilla Stages on a WoTLK client. So I dont think 'not yet at end game' is a valid argument..

[jkadnsg]

Among the Servers mentioned positively in that Video there is a Progression Server that is in the Vanilla Stages on a WoTLK client. So I dont think 'not yet at end game' is a valid argument..

Oh yes it is, Dodgy said in his last WM video he wouldn't do a review on WM til it was done and no longer a work in progress. So why should he give an award to WM when Lordaeron isn't even done yet? He's upholding is word and he's not bashing Warmane/Lordaeron either and that's a good thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqNaix49GY

[Jakkre]

Oh yes it is, Dodgy said in his last WM video he wouldn't do a review on WM til it was done and no longer a work in progress. So why should he give an award to WM when Lordaeron isn't even done yet? He's upholding is word and he's not bashing Warmane/Lordaeron either and that's a good thing.

Well, many of his reviewed realms were still work in progress so I dont really see the reason why Lordaeron is excluded while other realms arent.
I mean seriously, who cares about a review of Warmanes Cata realm these days? Wouldnt it be much more interesting and important to talk about Lordaeron?!
After all his videos give u a basic idea about what is going on in the private server scene and its kinda weird that such a huge project like Lordaeron, the first realm that has 10k population, seems to be so unimportant that its hardly mentioned in his last videos.

[Mahourai]

Dodgy has had his account banned and videos removed when they're posted on Molten's forums, so I'd imagine he isn't eager to review Molten again.

Also, what award are you looking for for Lordaeron? "Biggest Population"? "Best Marketing"?

[Jakkre]

Dodgy has had his account banned and videos removed when they're posted on Molten's forums, so I'd imagine he isn't eager to review Molten again.

Also, what award are you looking for for Lordaeron? "Biggest Population"? "Best Marketing"?

Lordaeron doesnt necessarily need to get a reward. Even though giving a "biggest population" reward would make sense because making scripts that dont cause performance issues is more challenging on a realm with 10k players than on a realm with 100 players.

[romz]

Well said! I couldn't agree more. Yes I feel Dodgy is biased toward WM, but I feel with his past with Molten staff and server issues, it's a well deserved biased attitude. Some people are just fanboi's and they don't wanna hear anything but the good things, but that's not how the world (of warcraft) works.

I personally feel these days that WM is finally on the right track and I know, I know people want Cata and MoP fixes and they want them now, but let's be honest here for a moment, trying to fix Cat and MoP and.... trying to push a WoD server out just doesn't make any since what so ever. The best thing WM can do is finish what they've started and then....

hopefully they'll do the same to Cata that they've done to WoTLK and then move on to MoP and just move most of Cata's core over to MoP, so MoP isn't more of a hassle then it needs to be.

As bugged as Cata and MoP are, i can honestly say and i feel Dodgy would agree with me on this, i see potential and a good bright future for Warmane, it's just gonna take some time to get there, and with Kaer Wolf behind the wheel now, I think they got the right man to do the right job.

Fact: If Dodgy had given WM all this praise and awards, then that would have been truly biased, just biased to other Private Servers that might be working on things longer then WM has. WM is still in a good bit of recovery from Molt-down and still has a ways to go, but at least it seems like a bright future now.

Since he is a reviewer and as I stated before, being biased against Warmane (not saying he can't be) but saying he should put that aside and review fairly even if he has problems with Warmane, but he doesn't do that often enough that is the problem.

[Zaharije13]

I have to say that most of the replies here that speak against dodgy's video or think that he was unfair in his review sound as if those people didn't even saw the video or tried to decipher what it means.
At the beginning he says the awards only go to servers reviewed this year. He reviewed Lordaeron in the early stage as a sponsored video for warmane, but at the time most of the content now available was not released yet. Putting Lordaeron in this award video would be unfair toward other servers and to the warmane server it self because he would be judging from a half finished product. Also at the time of the review he was actually alone on the server as it was only meant to be a preview video for new/old players and not an actual review. If you haven't seen it, he is actually really fair with his review considering the stage of the content at the time.
As far as the award video is concerned he actually gives a very mild argument about the status of the Cata server, pointing out that at the time of his review the Cata server and Warmane it self was in a really unfortunate place considering the Moltdown and everything. He even says that the endgame is decent (knowing Dodgy and his beef with Molten/Warmane was something that that he didn't have to say - considering he gave the Cata server Bottom of the class runner up award).
And for those complaining why didn't he include Lordaeron in his video - he actually did. He mentions that "...a lot of the staffs effort went into making the Lordaeron server which seems to be doing quite well...".

[Funkymusic]

Whats ur opinion about Dodgykebaab's recent videos?

LOL... considering i have a long and storied history with that bumbling *****, figured id throw my 2 cents in....

dude is a sell out useless piece of trash. dont even bother wasting your time with him. He has bashed this server for years and while he is correct on some issues he is severely flawed in many others. The video he was paid for by molten to do turned out to be a mistake as stated by many people within the staff (although i shouldent speak for them but they know its true) dodgey is irrational and always has been very bias towards anyone he does not like. Mouthing off to staff saying they owe him because he has the most viewed video when you google "molten wow" and hit the video tab as if he should be treated like a god or something. apparently you all missed this huge feud last year or so? remember when he said "molten was only the largest through our bullying and deception"? last i checked when someone bullies you or deceives you more than likely you dont want to play there am i right?

Honestly in wrath there is maybe one other server that comes to mind but even they are not close to the population we have across all 3 wotlk realms. It is in this aspect alone that molten generates its huge player base even further. by playing here you have the feeling of what it would be like to play on a retail server. many others servers out there only have a peak of blackrock at midnight. thats saying something.

the guy reviews private servers. dont take to heart with what he says in the least bit. he has bashed this community, server, staff, players and quality time and again. who cares about some crappy reward that means nothing. its the opinion of 1 person. time and again he has called this community toxic and raged like king kong against this server, against you the community. Time and again he has stalked my stream blown up my FB and twitter accounts with pure nonsense. the guy is just a average to below average player himself. thats really the kind of person you are going to listen to and take advice from?

we all have bad and good experiences on all servers across the world that we all play. but guess what? a large portion of us decided to play here and call this home. so who honestly cares about 1 persons opinion? a flawed opinion at best. this guy does not deserve the time of day for the way he has treated the entire community of molten.

TLDR? dodgey got butthurt once and has been flaming molten(community,staff, ect) since then. personally he is one of the very few people outside of the game id love to take to a mental hospital to have him checked out. which i would pay for. because u know... im a nice guy like that.

[Arson]

Funkymusic, I'm still the king of music video request when you stream. Skip all this nab request :)

Note: There only 1 moderator that always checks my post, I always have to re-edit due to grudges in the past. Mercy save me :)

[Zaharije13]

LOL... considering i have a long and storied history with that bumbling *****, figured id throw my 2 cents in....

dude is a sell out useless piece of trash. dont even bother wasting your time with him. He has bashed this server for years and while he is correct on some issues he is severely flawed in many others. The video he was paid for by molten to do turned out to be a mistake as stated by many people within the staff (although i shouldent speak for them but they know its true) dodgey is irrational and always has been very bias towards anyone he does not like. Mouthing off to staff saying they owe him because he has the most viewed video when you google "molten wow" and hit the video tab as if he should be treated like a god or something. apparently you all missed this huge feud last year or so? remember when he said "molten was only the largest through our bullying and deception"? last i checked when someone bullies you or deceives you more than likely you dont want to play there am i right?

Honestly in wrath there is maybe one other server that comes to mind but even they are not close to the population we have across all 3 wotlk realms. It is in this aspect alone that molten generates its huge player base even further. by playing here you have the feeling of what it would be like to play on a retail server. many others servers out there only have a peak of blackrock at midnight. thats saying something.

the guy reviews private servers. dont take to heart with what he says in the least bit. he has bashed this community, server, staff, players and quality time and again. who cares about some crappy reward that means nothing. its the opinion of 1 person. time and again he has called this community toxic and raged like king kong against this server, against you the community. Time and again he has stalked my stream blown up my FB and twitter accounts with pure nonsense. the guy is just a average to below average player himself. thats really the kind of person you are going to listen to and take advice from?

we all have bad and good experiences on all servers across the world that we all play. but guess what? a large portion of us decided to play here and call this home. so who honestly cares about 1 persons opinion? a flawed opinion at best. this guy does not deserve the time of day for the way he has treated the entire community of molten.

TLDR? dodgey got butthurt once and has been flaming molten(community,staff, ect) since then. personally he is one of the very few people outside of the game id love to take to a mental hospital to have him checked out. which i would pay for. because u know... im a nice guy like that.

This is hilarius. You are accusing Dodgy of being biased and that he bashes the molten/warmane servers for no reason, but at the same time you are posting an off topic argument, without even referencing the stuff he says in the "awards" video. You are basically no better than him by doing this. At least when you watch Dodgy's review you can go on the server yourself and see if his arguments hold up. I actually think he is full of him self considering I am primarilly a pvp player, and he always bashes on pvp in his reviews, but that is not the reason I watch his videos. I watch them because of detailed reviews of mob mechanics and bugged quests (and entertainment value of his videos) and that is something no one can deny him. In the end it's his channel and he can do what he wants with it.
But saying that someone is a piece of trash without even seeing what he posted makes you sir far worse.

[MadisonIvy]

And who is Dodgykebab?

[Funkymusic]

This is hilarius. You are accusing Dodgy of being biased and that he bashes the molten/warmane servers for no reason, but at the same time you are posting an off topic argument, without even referencing the stuff he says in the "awards" video. You are basically no better than him by doing this. At least when you watch Dodgy's review you can go on the server yourself and see if his arguments hold up. I actually think he is full of him self considering I am primarilly a pvp player, and he always bashes on pvp in his reviews, but that is not the reason I watch his videos. I watch them because of detailed reviews of mob mechanics and bugged quests (and entertainment value of his videos) and that is something no one can deny him. In the end it's his channel and he can do what he wants with it.
But saying that someone is a piece of trash without even seeing what he posted makes you sir far worse.

its not off topic? read all the previous posts about this junk before you spew your random nonsense. please son.

im no better than him? fine sure. at least i dont go around bashing the community. i have bashed the staff on the occasions where i think most of us can agree it applies but dont lump me in the same sentence as this hypocritical liar and moron. detailed reviews? LOL, oh boy... maybe you need to watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-1uVu-jpcg does that look detailed? looks like a 12 year old who is very butt hurt. complaining about stuff that is just plain absurd. the guy is not giving a review at all hes literally going off bashing staff bashing molten bashing everything because hes mad yet hes calling it a review...cmon now... you are going to tell me that hes giving a detailed review here? gtfo

i dont need to see what he posted. ive seen his junk for years already. this kid has been trying to spew his crap at me for years.... years... trust me when i say i am pretty sure i have a pretty good picture of this gal better than anyone in this thread/server lynea is the only one who might know him as well as i do. entertainment value? sorry i dont see it. if you do thats great. i guess i could be bias in that area. least ill admit that.

no one can deny him what? the detail of bugs and mechanics? i have yet to see any detail in any video. more of an overall overview sure. dont say its detailed. look at the definition of detailed. there are thousands of big bugs he misses on many servers. some of them are glaring issues. he either is not as detailed as you say or he glosses over them. either way detailed is not how i would describe any of his videos. biased with and overview is how i would describe them.

of course its his channel? not arguing that? just like my stream is my stream... dont use arguments that no one is debating because they are obviously pointless topics to debate.

dont come here making up stories and holding him up so high. dodgey is an ***** and if you cant see that then you are either close minded or oblivious to that very glaring fact. sorry but the guy has never once made a lick of sense. anyone with half a brain can debunk half his molten videos.