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[Mainboss]

Healers now happy with 80% resil

[MeneerPrins]

You think people on retail had full grievous or prideful when Resil was 77%?
70k is still 8th of person's hp, what do you want, to onehitkill the person?
You got used to twoshotting everything.

double dps comps are useless now and dps/heal vs dps/heal takes forever now... I can't even kill a 450 MW monk in a duel with a 522 Hunter.

[Skoobydoo]

You think people on retail had full grievous or prideful when Resil was 77%?
70k is still 8th of person's hp, what do you want, to onehitkill the person?
You got used to twoshotting everything.

77% res come with pridefull gear in season 15 also you get 5200 res from trinket up from 2600 and yes people had full grievous gear since it was taking 2 days farming RDF and exchanging jp into honor to get full honor gear.also with bonus CP point you get ,if you miss your cap you can come midseason and get full pridefull just with capping your char.with such huge boost of defense stats even grievous gear didnt feel strong when you pvp.also you are wrong about 1shotkill.there is comp who are all about setup and burst the target in few sec cross CC window if you dont have the gear to burst down someone the comp become broken.its same for any x2 dps comp aswell when they face healer+dps.
and there is no such thing as 1 shotkill , you always have def cds its up to you how you use them and when.
lower tier pvp gear with high res % its a heaven for all dampening comps.

[skullatbash]

I heard in game many PvPers complaing about "low" dmgs but...
1) do you guys realize that if you do less dmg then also your enemies do less dmgs?
2) now you can say " well but healers now... " STOP. Do you guys know battle fatigue has been increased from 55% to 60% reduction?
So you do a bit less dmgs and healers do a bit less heal, everything is pretty much like before

[Skoobydoo]

I heard in game many PvPers complaing about "low" dmgs but...
1) do you guys realize that if you do less dmg then also your enemies do less dmgs?
2) now you can say " well but healers now... " STOP. Do you guys know battle fatigue has been increased from 55% to 60% reduction?
So you do a bit less dmgs and healers do a bit less heal, everything is pretty much like before

well here if where you are wrong.x2 dps will NEVER EVER kill healer or his dps if he is out of CC.you need to make CC chain and kill 1 of the target before the CC is over.if you dont have the dmg you cant do it.good luck killing through warrior 2nd wind with lower tier gear in season 15.

[Michiel1234]

I like current PvP but then again..I'm a full geared warrior :P

Arena's need to be fixed asap tho

[MeneerPrins]

I heard in game many PvPers complaing about "low" dmgs but...
1) do you guys realize that if you do less dmg then also your enemies do less dmgs?
2) now you can say " well but healers now... " STOP. Do you guys know battle fatigue has been increased from 55% to 60% reduction?
So you do a bit less dmgs and healers do a bit less heal, everything is pretty much like before

Explain to me why it's almost impossible to kill a low geared healer in a duel with a full geared dps.. seems imbalanced to me.

[skullatbash]

Explain to me why it's almost impossible to kill a low geared healer in a duel with a full geared dps.. seems imbalanced to me.

do you think there must be some bugged spell? Test them all
do you think Resilience is working more than intended? Test it ( I didnt test if the 80% resi works fine)
I would be more than happy if someone find any kind of Bug

[ReadySetFall]

You think people on retail had full grievous or prideful when Resil was 77%?
70k is still 8th of person's hp, what do you want, to onehitkill the person?
You got used to twoshotting everything.

I lold at ur ignorant reply. Just shows the state of the server. Also, people had a chance to farm pridefull but we as a community have to wait for you till you release SOO? Do you even realize how dumb of a decision thath is if 95% of the people hate the pvp , than there must be something wrong. It has nothing to do with " getting used to 1 shotting people". But ok keep patting yourself on the back thinking that pvp works. And just watch the population go under 1k and pvp dying completely.

[Fyfjukas]

Calm ur tits guys.. everything will be ok. Give warmane some time. Soon it will be fixed. :P
And PvP is so cool these days after new update. I like it so much, meybe because im a healer. Anyway, if u have 522ilvl pvp gear, not a big deal. At the moment, mostly all PvP players have 522ilvl PvP items.
Also I remember topics when bunch of players herein forum was crying how PvP is bad.. 1 shot, 2 shot... warr op, rogue op.. they cant play, so fast kills, like YOLO.. and now everything is diferrent, no fast kills, no 1 shot or 2 shot, more balance, longer fights - but.. again as always - haters gonna hate. So what ewa..

[Nasty]

You think people on retail had full grievous or prideful when Resil was 77%?
70k is still 8th of person's hp, what do you want, to onehitkill the person?
You got used to twoshotting everything.

^This.

Regarding PvP. In 5.4.7, there was like a week or two that we had higher resil and couldn't even get prideful [the same resil as now, so shh about your 'but this is 5.4.8' commentary]. This however, is a private server. We won't get any higher then 5.4.8. So if you compare how long we will be sitting at this patch, when compared to retail and it's 2 patches, a few months til we can get prideful is not an issue at all. If anything, it's giving those of you who did not play retail, a chance to adapt to the changes to the classes and such. And, ppl that are currently leaving the server, guarantee only like 1 or 2 is leaving cuz of lack of prideful lol. It's the bugs that are pissin ppl off the most right now and those will be sorted through.

As a retail player, and a player of all 11 classes of multiple specs with ALLLLLLLL at 522 ilvl, I can tell ya.. You're not supposed to be able to kill a healer with ease in a duel lawl, or even 2's. Half of you are carried by bugs that permit you to do more damage, those did not exist in retail. This lower damage you're seeing, although it may not be entirely accurate, is closer to retail then the higher damage I was seeing before.

[Xanistus]

^This.

Regarding PvP. In 5.4.7, there was like a week or two that we had higher resil and couldn't even get prideful [the same resil as now, so shh about your 'but this is 5.4.8' commentary]. This however, is a private server. We won't get any higher then 5.4.8. So if you compare how long we will be sitting at this patch, when compared to retail and it's 2 patches, a few months til we can get prideful is not an issue at all. If anything, it's giving those of you who did not play retail, a chance to adapt to the changes to the classes and such. And, ppl that are currently leaving the server, guarantee only like 1 or 2 is leaving cuz of lack of prideful lol. It's the bugs that are pissin ppl off the most right now and those will be sorted through.

As a retail player, and a player of all 11 classes of multiple specs with ALLLLLLLL at 522 ilvl, I can tell ya.. You're not supposed to be able to kill a healer with ease in a duel lawl, or even 2's. Half of you are carried by bugs that permit you to do more damage, those did not exist in retail. This lower damage you're seeing, although it may not be entirely accurate, is closer to retail then the higher damage I was seeing before.

so you as a high exp retail player want to tell us that no class could get a resto druid less than 60% in a duel as we see this on frostwolf, no class can get a decent resto dudu less than 60% in duel not even top 10 players, they just stand in one place don't even need to heal, so just explain me this if it was like that on retail i gonna stop playing this game

[tronchon]

Sadly ,everyone was hoping for a more successful update ,but base game-breaking stuff is bugged ,such as e.g. casting bars, professions ,whisper chat ,not to mention those far more complicated ones ,so even those that log in , log out pretty fast, seeing it's unplayable. That is why you will not see numbers rising, only dropping ,until patch is remotely playable.
Posting on front page things like " 16:30 Frostwolf has been updated with new hotfixes including fixes to the auction house..." per example, when AH is clearly still completely broken, is not helping either ,if I see ppl constantly mocking it on global ,as well as everything else, thats never a good sign :( Being online where global/guild/party chat is floaded with mocking,crying,and general unhappiness is making ppl logout sooner and switch to something more fun. For the sake of bare existence of FW ,I sure hope they are able to fix at least basic stuff in the following week,else population will drop even more rapid then it did before.
Imo, there should be a front feedback page where community could post the real condition of realm and get some communication back from staff , but I doubt that will ever happen.

you are so right, sadly

maybe they should just focus on wrath... 10k ppl every day... really not bad business at all

[Allenkey]

Problem now is that every class that doesnt heal just sucks. Warriors are hard to kill even if you burst the **** out of them at low health because of second wind and they still do insane damage (WAY more than on retail at this patch). I agree that it is normal for resilience to go up with this patch and the damage to drop but something is clearly wrong. I went from 70k icelance crits to around 30k which is half and as soon as a healer shows up in BG, there is no way to kill someone unless 3 people are putting everything on 1 guy.

[lalal]

Im I the only one who cry about: archaeology bug, underground fall, keybindings bug, dungeon finder bug and ect. the things that actually were working before this patch, these are the important problems imo, not the missing prideful, not the missing SoO not even isle of thunder and ect. Stop crying for "missing" things and start upvote the bugs pls :/.