Thoughts on server

[Challengerx]

And pvpers would cry you the river if there was legendary rogue.

Kaleds are that bugged that it doesnt worth equipping fangs of the father in PvP..
My friend has them, and still in PvP he uses nokaleds, while in pve daggers are extremely op..

[BakuraLord]

Kaleds are that bugges that it doesnt worth equipping fangs of the father in PvP..
My friend has them, and still in PvP he uses nokaleds, while in pve daggers are extremely op..

I feel like Kaleds are procing too often and are carrying a lot of bad rogues that have no idea what DR is >_>

[Challengerx]

I feel like Kaleds are procing too often and are carrying a lot of bad rogues that have no idea what DR is >_>

Thats exactly what is bugged at them, proc rate and damage of procs. Vial of Shadows has same problem..
Many rogues have NO CLUE how to play, still they just stealth prem. recu. shadowstep, ambush, hemo spam and gg (basically)..

[BakuraLord]

Thats exactly what is bugged at them, proc rate and damage of procs. Vial of Shadows has same problem..
Many rogues have NO CLUE how to play, still they just stealth prem. recu. shadowstep, ambush, hemo spam and gg (basically)..

Yaap, double kaleds + vial are carrying them with procs of 15-20k.

[Qulx]

I've seen many ppl cry about gurthalak, when it proccs and wins the duel, or arena. (rarely happening) But gurthalak isnt half as op as no kaleds on enh or rogue. gurth is killable and will do only lke 10k dmg when it proccs cuz it s killed rly easy by most classes. But no kaleds dmg is just not mitigatable. They get rets down to sacred in cheap-kidney, and i have to pop lichborn heal with half rune bar, cuz im at 10% hp when cheap-kidney fades...

PvE has ruined PvP to a point where it's barely any fun to play anymore, if you ask me.
Especially cuz there are only 2s queues.

[BakuraLord]

Its true that one Gurth's proc can take a win in duel or arena, but still Kaleds are doing to much dmg.

I need to agree with Qulx, everytime I get cheap-kidney by one hemo rogue I know I'm going to lose 80% of my Hp, its so damn ridiculous <_<

[Kemii]

I feel like Kaleds are procing too often and are carrying a lot of bad rogues that have no idea what DR is >_>

Nope.
No'kaleds are not broken, I tested them excessively.
running with 3 different simulation programs as my retail data samples.

Rogues just seem to weld them better since they have a quicker attack speed than Shaman does (minus WF proc).
Frost DK as well are about the same strength as Rogues weilding nokaleds, thanks to Icy Talons.

The base damage scaling on them is correct, as well as scaling from other sources (Shaman/DK mastery, Resilience, Spell Penetration).

Maybe you should QQ to Blizzard, it's their fault.

[BakuraLord]

Nope.
No'kaleds are not broken, I tested them excessively.
running with 3 different simulation programs as my retail data samples.

Rogues just seem to weld them better since they have a quicker attack speed than Shaman does (minus WF proc).
Frost DK as well are about the same strength as Rogues weilding nokaleds, thanks to Icy Talons.

The base damage scaling on them is correct, as well as scaling from other sources (Shaman/DK mastery, Resilience, Spell Penetration).

Maybe you should QQ to Blizzard, it's their fault.

I'm not talking about the damage or the scalling of the No'kaleds. I just feel like its procing to many times. Just like Kiril, Rathrak or other proc items like the cataclysm trinkets are procing at the first 1/2/3 attacks. On my Hpala my proc trinket is healing even when I buff myself :x

[Kemii]

I'm not talking about the damage or the scalling of the No'kaleds. I just feel like its procing to many times. Just like Kiril, Rathrak or other proc items like the cataclysm trinkets are procing at the first 1/2/3 attacks. On my Hpala my proc trinket is healing even when I buff myself :x

There is no ICD on No'kaled and can proc of every attack.

[BakuraLord]

There is no ICD on No'kaled and can proc of every attack.

Yea, it can, but its still weird always procing at the first attacks.

[Karpathian666]

if you wanna pve this is a great realm to but if you wanna pvp go on a whole new server far away from theese guys... probbly the worst pvp community ever eveyone just flames and fights for no particular reason.

[Kemii]

Yea, it can, but its still weird always procing at the first attacks.

why?

ANY attack, be it 1st or 1000th.

I've globaled people with an Unleash Weapon Windfury with a quadra proc... #Happens.

[BakuraLord]

why?

ANY attack, be it 1st or 1000th.

Exactaly, thats why its procing to often >_>
I never said they're bugged, they're just OP af.

[Nasty]

it has ppm though. i can't remember how many. and seeing as how it doesn't proc multiple times in a row every time, i can only assume that it's like 100% for first attack upon entering combat, and normal after [until u leave combat i'd presume?]. but no testing has been done so hell if i know.

the issue with the rogues is that all these procs [trinketx2/no'kx2] are all happening during the opener. after which, they're nothing notable. on retail.. ppl qq'd left n right about rogues, mostly blaming legendary weps for rogue op'ness in pvp. but it wasn't about them either. rogue 2 piece bonus is op. mini berserk on tott which already gives inc. dmg to ur partner.. crazy. but here it's usually irrelevant. i see so many rogues with 2 piece bonus that never even use tott lawl.

[r41ncl0ud]

if you wanna pve this is a great realm to but if you wanna pvp go on a whole new server far away from theese guys... probbly the worst pvp community ever eveyone just flames and fights for no particular reason.

No need to lie.