Horde is loosing every bg

[saghha]

losing*

Sorry.

On topic, stop PvPing on Lordaeron. It's a progression realm, not a PvP realm.

Is climbing arena ladder not progressive?

Or is this the kind of Progressive you speak of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52pQqoxT3BM

[4koule]

Its simple. I as a horde player know very well that majority of horde players are total braindead *****s with 0% brain usage. Like last Wintergrasp i was litteraly everyone from horde gone attacking right under walls with no siege and noone was defending towers. Like they dont even know what to do whatsoever, yet they keep playing. I dont understand them monkeys.

Like in every AV. There are like 2-3 players at horde who actually defend/capture towers. But rest of them dont even recap empty towers that are being captured and noone is there. They just go straight into endless pvp like a braindead potatos they are...

Edit1: Last time i was BG(was like 2weeks ago) i was as always getting only AV and i died like 4x being the only player trying to recapture tower point to 2 rogues. In the meantime like 50 ppl who respawned had moved right under the stupid tower but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE gone to recap tower.

[saghha]

This topic about the bgs , because every time I'm joining in one I loose. Horde cant win a single bg and this is very annoying. I have opened this topic to share thoughts and ideas to how to fix the balance problem. Although its a tough question because most of the ppl with a lot of pvp exp are choosing the allience but this problem have to be solved.

I'm not interested in faction change. I want to win a bg on the horde side. So pls spare your time and my nerves and dont write flame comments.
Allience isnt just about pvp and horde isnt just about pve. This 2 sides were developed to match eachother with fair conditions in bgs.

P.S.: Alterac Valley should be scrapped out from the game cuz its the worst bg ever. Long annoying and boring with pve boss and it represent everything which is bad in pvp and in bg.

This is completely untrue! I'm sorry the OP is having a bad experience trying to gear up and play in bg's, but this simply is not true. I play Alliance and have been 80 for a few days now and have about a 50/50 win/lose ratio and that's about all I can ask it to be. If OP is having so many issues solo queueing maybe he should try and make some friends instead of coming to the forums complaining about something he clearly doesn't know enough about to make the conclusion that he's made.

[Neky]

Horde wins about 20% during the day and about 70% in the morning (really early, like 4 am to 8am), Just man up and play more BG you wont remember the struggle when you get most of your gear and ignore the biased ignorant person above me sayin horde gets 50/50 (lol)

[rommel1g]

Horde is just too stupid / ignorant. Even when you try to lead them to victory, they dont care. No communication, not reading the BG chat. Just senseless to join without premades :)

[saghha]

Horde wins about 20% during the day and about 70% in the morning (really early, like 4 am to 8am), Just man up and play more BG you wont remember the struggle when you get most of your gear and ignore the biased ignorant person above me sayin horde gets 50/50 (lol)

Ugh come again? So aren't you the one claiming 20% during the day and 70% during morning? Does that not work out to about 50% on average during a 24 hour day? If faction balance is somewhere between 40 to 60 percent win to lose ratio, then that's about as balanced as one's going to get. As a stay at home parent I've been playing all around the clock and from the US evenings until around 6am US morning I lose a lot and that's rough around 12 hr give or take that i seem to struggle the most in bg's. Now if i play from 6am to about 6pm US hours, i win a lot. So please explain to this ignorant person how it doesn't average out to about 50/50, because my mind is just to small to comprehend how horde have it so bad?

Also like to point out that the OP of the thread never stated anything about what time's he was queue'ing or is he exclusively queue'ing alone, etc, etc, etc and this can change someone's win/lose ration a lot.

Just for example: Last night I started queue'ing into AV a lot and could swear to you that this guild (or whatever) was hosting premades as every single time the alliance took a tower, the same exact horde were there to take it back and when we tried to get our bunkers back, there were several horde cooped up in our bunkers sitting there and waiting for us, around 10 I'd say.

Now i'm not complaining about horde premades, I could care less, people gotta do what they gotta do to get their honor/gear, but please for the love of god don't try and turn the horde into victims as everyone has the same advantages as everyone else. If alliance don't like getting curbstompled by horde in AV premades, then they should premade against them and fight back.

That's all i'm saying on this subject as I'm not even sure what statistics people are using to justify saying the horde lose all the time as Warmane as never published such numbers or cares to bat an eye at balancing factions, so whatever. All it comes down to is someones personal experience over someone else's and that's that.

[saghha]

Horde is just too stupid / ignorant. Even when you try to lead them to victory, they dont care. No communication, not reading the BG chat. Just senseless to join without premades :)

and alliance often do the same exact thing. Its just depends on what bg's you enter and what time you enter them.

[Awakelolz]

Not bad for Horde...and I play premades only with one or two friends and non of them is healer

[Healsonheels]

cause low healers in alliance pugs.

-True. I don't PUG BGs because I feel it's me healing the Alliance and Shaman Druid Paladin Priest on Horde.

Allience isnt just about pvp and horde isnt just about pve. This 2 sides were developed to match eachother with fair conditions in bgs.

Alterac Valley should be scrapped out from the game cuz its the worst bg ever. Long annoying and boring with pve boss and it represent everything which is bad in pvp and in bg.

-The character selection screen is psychologically developed to divide the players. The background story of the factions. The colors. The visuals. The sounds. The names. You chose to be a green stupid monster. A hunchback skinny tusk thing. May be you were normal so you chose a Zombie, which is a Human but you chose to be like "bad" or "mean" and stuff... Or may be you were normal so you chose a belf which visually looks more human than the Humans... But you chose to be Horde dude. What the **** is wrong with you. Why do you want to win? Play to play. Don't play to win. Play this way and you will not notice that you lose all the time.

-Alterac Valley is one of my 2 favorite BGs. It is the biggest longest, it gives us (Small premade) (2 small premades) (Full premade) oportunity to "Raid" as PvP... Since we don't know **** about the dungeons and raids.

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-Strand of the Ancients is not my favorite but when I premade we don't cap the jewel and spend 1-5 minutes controlling the last part of the BG everyone on demos. Ride me like a demo.

-My other favorite is WSG. The most basic. Every little movement is so important :)

Note: We have a Target Caller, a bithc that puts Skull Icon on someone. NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED. 3v1 boom. 3v1 boom.

We are leveling a Gnome Female Subtley Rogue Herbalism Mining Stamina Resilience and already have 9 people on Friend List. We haven't Teamspeaked or play BGs... It's just a "dream" we have right now. 5 ambushes on 1 person /train jump jump jump sprint bla bla bla... Pick the flag, sprint gouge swiftness stealth, next rogue pops, repeat. bla bla bla... We did it on another realm with 2 rogues, 0 gear. We never won a WSG but we literally didn't lose to the Horde by them capping 3 flags. They tried soooooo hard. We had the looks and our names were Brizle and Brezli

I suggest you queue with guildies or friends, try to make a premade. The downside of that is waiting with a premade in queue can take a long while compared to queueing up solo.

-Do this. You just have to wait the first time you guys queue, after all BGs end, there's like another round of the people that queue before you. Then it's the turn of your premade to get in the BG, after the BG ends, you have to exit the BG fast and queue fast again, everyone has to exit fast too or bug your mana burn.

stop PvPing on Lordaeron. It's a progression realm, not a PvP realm.

You're so old that I feel young.

I suggest you find a PVP guild or friends you can make premades with.

One more problem is the phenomenom of bg heros.

-Yessss... I fukcing hate this sheit. And even worse, people that leaves 1 minute before it closes. Like... What? Psychologically you didn't feel the rekt or what? Pain Supression dude. Fukc your mana burn. Chill stream. Exorcism. Kill the pet.

Horde wins about 20% during the day and about 70% in the morning

-I don't know about the time, local time, server time, blah blah blah. We play 24/7 nonstop chill stream and yes. When there's a lot of people online on Lordaeron and we get BG pops nonstop it feels like the Alliance REKTs, I sometimes play alone and like I see all these new names on both sides and it works great. When there's not a lot of people online, we also play and there's the same fukcing people that don't like to work with us because blah blah blah, Oceania, The other Shore, Australia guilds and some others, and some DKs, Druids and Paladins. I love them in dungeons because they are great but in BGs... they work on their thing and we work on our thing and fukc my mana burn.




SotA and EotS statistics are bugged BTW.




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[Mohaxxo]

losing*

Sorry.

On topic, stop PvPing on Lordaeron. It's a progression realm, not a PvP realm.

Not a pvp realm but a progression realm? .. rofl dumbass

[meepmeep]

P.S.: Alterac Valley should be scrapped out from the game cuz its the worst bg ever. Long annoying and boring with pve boss and it represent everything which is bad in pvp and in bg.

I haven't played Alterac Valley since it was released about 10 years ago and I'm looking forward to playing it again. I like that mix of PvE missions part of it.

Has it been adjusted for the level cap in wotlk?

[Holyhorror]

Never got issues to win BG`s as horde if you do not have 3 afk`s in team.
When i see 3-4 horde player are standing afk in base i just leave because it is waste of time.

[vieira082]

Sometimes horde's best tactic "stack as many healers as we can" doesn't work kek.