For most players, it is honestly better to just create a free character from Blackrock and reroll once you get bumped up to higher bracket. The game punishes you for donating and it's impossible to avoid premades on holidays if you play in the higher bracket.
Let's say a 9 man premade queues on a 10v10 bg, and you queue alone, which side are you most likely to join?
The biggest problem here is said alliance premade abusing the game to farm HKs for no real reason. How?
They are using software to queue as 30+ man premade to a battleground that only allows 5man premades (AV).
They ignore objectives so the BG doesn't end too fast.
They ignore objectives (graveyards) to spawn camp enemies, that can't run to another graveyard or cancel res or they will get kick for afk.
They log rogue alters on the opposite faction to recap graveyards for the enemies and keep farming HKs if any non premade on the their own faction were to cap the graveyard.
Most of them stay idle next to the graveyard to get HKs not even playing the game.
These are the most outrageous but the list goes on.
Each time someone complains about this in the forums some other players are quick to jump on their defence.
in my eyes there should be some changes to make BGs better.
1. stop massive premades. Limit max 3 ppl in a group for smaller bgs(WSG etc) and max 5 ppl for big ones(AV etc).
2. Make a script to balance healers on both sides.
3. It's been months since I played AV on alli side. What's going on ? It always pushes me to horde side. for months ? Something wrong here.
People have been complaining about BGs and premades for probably a decade more or less. The recent years it isnt just premades but entire guilds dedicated to HKs. They intentionally trying not to win either because they dont want to or because trying to win will get you killed. They think HKs are something so precious that you shouldnt give it to the enemy team even if you are trying to win. These parasitic players are bad both at pvp and pve. They have no arena team or solo rating and they quit after 6th boss in icc. All they do is farming HKs, ganking lows, and dueling 1v1. They are the reason you need a macro to enter wintergrasp and random BGs are unplayable. But most importantly, THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON BIS GEAR AND TOONS WITH PVP ACHIEVS. So good luck with that. My suggestion, mock them.
Premades are killing the BGs. I am playing with my son, trying to farm some honor, after 3 BGs in which we hit 3 premades, he gives up. It is absolutely necessary to implement a system in which premades play against premades, because the difference between 10 random people and a well organizes group with healers and tanks is HUGE. If I start mentioning the arena MMR lowering BS which puts BiS teams in front of rookie starters, we get a bigger picture of how PvP looks on Warmane. As a Warmane veteran, this breaks my heart and makes new people pass on this game.
Hey guys, I'm new to this server and just hit level 80 on Icecrown.
I've noticed that in about 70-80% of battlegrounds, the top 5-10 players are Alliance from Blackrock. They don’t seem interested in finishing the BG; instead, they focus on farming kills. For example, in Warsong Gulch, they grab the flag and then camp at the graveyard. In Arathi Basin, they intentionally leave one base uncaptured just to farm kills at the graveyard.
Since I'm a fresh level 80, my gear is pretty weak. Today, I was farmed so hard at the gold mine in AB that the anti-camp system kicked me out as a deserter. I had no chance to move because the Blackrock Alliance players killed me instantly. I wanted to farm honor, I wanted to fight—but instead, I got flagged as a deserter. Honestly, this is a disaster.
I suggest bringing more balance to battlegrounds. Mix Blackrock Alliance players into both teams or, if they must be included, ensure that their numbers are evenly distributed between Horde and Alliance.
Honestly, this system is so f****ed. Today I was threw out from won Alterac Valley, because ally stacked on the graveyard and didn't give me a chance to move. After respawn Ive got instant destro lock stun and was dead until it disappeared.
They could implement a system that prevents premade groups from joining battlegrounds on weekends. At the very least, they could test it to evaluate the results, ensuring both sides have a fair experience while assessing whether it improves balance.
Problem is not a horde, problem is that there too many tryhard premades, and all they want is 24/7 GY farm.
Few ways to fix it is to disable premades at RBG at least, or lower premades to 2 players.
Other way is If to force these premades to play against another premade, I bet 90% of them would stop premades immediately because no balls to face being worse player, like most of those self called "TOP" guilds.
Yeah, honestly, that might be a good idea.
As a Horde player, I’ve reached the point where I’m done with PvE since I’m BiS and have completed all the content. Now I’m just farming achievs, and I figured faction changing to Alliance would be the best way to get PvP achievements more efficiently. I can tell.. it was a really good and wise decision lol.