1. Ehh

    I guess I come from a world where giving one response that's put effort in to, and leaving it at that is the norm, and seeing these half assed discussions about ones fragility or whatnot useless and energy consuming for no reason. Don't think it adds any value and as such, it goes above my head.

    Each their own I guess, I'm pretty much a tourist in here anyways at this point.

  2. It's not about fragility, despite it being a reason of this topic.
    What this is about is limiting parlance for some subjective feeling or something. How some dudes want to be white knights of morality, yet what it actually looks like is a bunch of Hitler/Stalin wanabees dreaming about repressing people who say words that do not fit the agenda.

  3. It's not about fragility, despite it being a reason of this topic.
    What this is about is limiting parlance for some subjective feeling or something. How some dudes want to be white knights of morality, yet what it actually looks like is a bunch of Hitler/Stalin wanabees dreaming about repressing people who say words that do not fit the agenda.
    You read a lot into that original post buddy. Those Hitler/Stalin wannabes seem to be living rent free in your head, if they even exist.

  4. He literally asked for a player to be dealt with because he said something he didn't like. Coating it in some nice and fluffy sugar.

    Buddy, you need to think 5 seconds about it.

    If he gets what he wants, you will be banned btw, because I didn't like what you said. Since objective point where something is "harassment" does not exist, what is enforced is my opinion on it, which makes you guilty. (do you get the gist now?)
    Edited: December 5, 2024

  5. He literally asked for a player to be dealt with because he said something he didn't like. Coating it in some nice and fluffy sugar.

    Buddy, you need to think 5 seconds about it.

    If he gets what he wants, you will be banned btw, because I didn't like what you said. Since objective point where something is "harassment" does not exist, what is enforced is my opinion on it, which makes you guilty. (do you get the gist now?)
    If you would ban and mute punish People for extremly mediocre things like OP mentioned in his first post, would that create a form of harassment in its own. Because that would clearly and directly state that you have to make sure to not offend anyone and to make sure to talk and behave the way People like OP want it to, else you face severe punishment. In worst Case you loose your entire progress to a Perm Bann because you told a Person in Public Chat: "I disagress with you." I´d bet 20 Bucks that OP is just so offended and butthurt over the words:

    "stop turtling in av you ****".
    Because he got called out and can´t deal with getting busted.

    I mean: What do People who are with OP expect? That Warmane creates a magical Cotton Candy World, where still everybody talks in Public, but no one is ever mean to each other? Lil ****s who get triggered easily over everything tend to feast on each other, let em have it.

  6. but the points stands - yes you may harass people here without fear of consequence.
    No, the point that stands is that we have a very different standard for what constitutes harassment, and it isn't about to change.

    Customer Service and GMs aren't "****" - and I won't tolerate them being called that - because they disagree with you, you simply are way too sensitive (or want to exploit a minor, easily brushed aside situation to get someone banned). We aren't about to take action on some isolated cases of banter and trash talking, that sort of thing is expected in a competitive environment and the /ignore command already exists in case you can't take the heat. Call harassment when it becomes something that /ignore can't solve.

  7. or want to exploit a minor, easily brushed aside situation to get someone banned
    Well put, this happens very often online

    Being angry and calling someone a **** is bad but wanting to get someone banned for using a vulgar word is petty revenge.

  8. The bottom line is that if you allow behavior like this to go unpunished, it creates a toxic community.

    War-mane wow is one of the most, if not, the most toxic community there is.

    This is the ultimate truth, it is a bad policy, Blizzard does not allow this one bit, yet war-mane does. It's a real shame.
    Best hack I have found out is to literally just turn off whispers. I swear it's like 90% of the people I meet, whether in dungeon or bgs are so annoyingly immature, rude, racist, narcisstic, entitled brats. And war-mane policy enforces them to be brats by allowing them to keep behaving like brats.

    It really is such a sickening community. I'm with the OP on this one. Action needs to be taken.

  9. You don't really know what you are talking about here, example: take a screen shot and report the player and you will just get a reply from a GM saying your proof is edited. Try it.

  10. The bottom line is that if you allow behavior like this to go unpunished, it creates a toxic community.

    War-mane wow is one of the most, if not, the most toxic community there is.

    This is the ultimate truth, it is a bad policy, Blizzard does not allow this one bit, yet war-mane does. It's a real shame.
    Best hack I have found out is to literally just turn off whispers. I swear it's like 90% of the people I meet, whether in dungeon or bgs are so annoyingly immature, rude, racist, narcisstic, entitled brats. And war-mane policy enforces them to be brats by allowing them to keep behaving like brats.

    It really is such a sickening community. I'm with the OP on this one. Action needs to be taken.
    You are literally asking them to take action against you.
    I mean, you are pretty toxic there and I really feel harassed, I'm not sure if I can go on if it's like this and there is no action taken against you. I think 3 days for each toxic word you said sounds good and you will rehabilitate into being a good person, I'm sure.

  11. I'm with the OP on this one.
    I wonder if that has something to do with this being just another account from the same person.

  12. I think this thread highlights a bigger issue with how Warmane handles its community and the expectations around moderation. Sure, some people might say “just use /ignore” or dismiss toxic behavior as “the way the internet is,” but that approach doesn’t address the actual problem: enabling a culture where harassment is acceptable because there’s no accountability.

    I understand that GMs can’t moderate every minor insult, but when players take the time to report behavior they feel crosses a line, it’s because they care about the community. Ignoring reports, dismissing them as overreactions, or mocking players for raising concerns doesn’t solve anything—it just makes people feel like their concerns don’t matter.

    Take Helbra’s example of someone threatening to track and kill another player. Even if those threats aren’t credible, dismissing them with “just ignore it” is irresponsible. At the very least, there should be consistency in how these reports are handled. If Warmane doesn’t intend to act on certain behaviors, they need to make that clear in their policies so players aren’t left guessing what qualifies as actionable harassment.

    As for the argument that “this is how the internet works,” I think that’s outdated. Plenty of modern communities have shown that clear rules and active, fair moderation can create healthier environments. Players aren’t asking for GMs to babysit every argument—they just want basic standards of respect to be enforced.

    Ultimately, Warmane’s approach to these issues will determine the kind of community they foster. If they want to grow and maintain their player base, they need to take these concerns seriously, even if it’s just issuing warnings for smaller offenses. Otherwise, the message they’re sending is that toxic behavior is acceptable here, and that’s not the kind of environment many of us want to be part of.

  13. when players take the time to report behavior they feel crosses a line, it’s because they care about the community.
    I would say that's not the case most of the time, because what they want is petty revenge. Is petty revenge over some angry words good for the community? Don't think so myself

  14. I think this thread highlights a bigger issue with how Warmane handles its community and the expectations around moderation. Sure, some people might say “just use /ignore” or dismiss toxic behavior as “the way the internet is,” but that approach doesn’t address the actual problem: enabling a culture where harassment is acceptable because there’s no accountability.

    I understand that GMs can’t moderate every minor insult, but when players take the time to report behavior they feel crosses a line, it’s because they care about the community. Ignoring reports, dismissing them as overreactions, or mocking players for raising concerns doesn’t solve anything—it just makes people feel like their concerns don’t matter.

    Take Helbra’s example of someone threatening to track and kill another player. Even if those threats aren’t credible, dismissing them with “just ignore it” is irresponsible. At the very least, there should be consistency in how these reports are handled. If Warmane doesn’t intend to act on certain behaviors, they need to make that clear in their policies so players aren’t left guessing what qualifies as actionable harassment.

    As for the argument that “this is how the internet works,” I think that’s outdated. Plenty of modern communities have shown that clear rules and active, fair moderation can create healthier environments. Players aren’t asking for GMs to babysit every argument—they just want basic standards of respect to be enforced.

    Ultimately, Warmane’s approach to these issues will determine the kind of community they foster. If they want to grow and maintain their player base, they need to take these concerns seriously, even if it’s just issuing warnings for smaller offenses. Otherwise, the message they’re sending is that toxic behavior is acceptable here, and that’s not the kind of environment many of us want to be part of.
    It is acceptable here to talk trash here, read it as many times it's necessary for you to get it. Well adjusted people will not play in some dead fake community where you cant even say "go **** yourself" to someone. It'd be fake trough and trough.
    This whole premise is ridiculous.
    If you don't like what someone is saying, use perfectly available ignore system that's specifically intended for exactly this situation. If someone is working around it, report them, just like the rules say.

  15. The ultimate truth is people shouldn't be too fragile online, as some of you tend to be. First day on the internet or in adults' world? If you can't handle some swear words, get an addon that filters messages containing them, or enable in-game mature language filter, or go play offline singleplayer games. While you scream people should be banned over rather mediocre swear words that aren't racist or discriminatory, don't pretend you wouldn't have ever done the same at some point.

    You called others brats, should you be banned since you insulted others? Or are you just the average person who is blind to their own wrongdoings, and only focuses on what others do or don't do?

    Warmane's policy is just fine. It allows players some freedom of expression, while banning those who take it too far.

    Karens.. smh

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