Wotlk classic client plx

[ExtraEmily]

Why do others manage to get the Classic client to run with tbc 2.4.3/3.3.5 or cata 4.3.4?

There are no wotlk or cataclyms servers that are using the classic client. In fact not a single server will recommend you to use the classic client over the original.
Hermes proxy was never updated beyond classic tbc and even then getting it to actually run is a insane amount of headace.. Headace thats absolutely not worth it at all when you can just download a fully working client and play within minutes.

The only good and I mean the ONLY good thing about the classic client is that it supports 64bit.

[Mercy]

Y'all keep askin' without really understanding what you're askin' for. Far too much work involved for the minor benefits it would provide. Maybe it'll happen when we don't have other more important things to work on. Sometime in 2037 or something.

[Shred]

I wouldn't call the benefits minor. The client looks much better, has much better performance and compatibility, and works on modern macs.

[ExtraEmily]

I wouldn't call the benefits minor. The client looks much better, has much better performance and compatibility, and works on modern macs.

I can list 40+ bugs that was part of the wotlk classic client ontop of my head without using my braincells.
As I stated the only good part of the client was that it supported 62bit and the updated option interface.

Its not worth it what so ever for Warmane or any other private server to invest time into the classic client for minimal benefits.
Not to mention all the bugs that would come with using the legion core that classic wow runs on.. It does not feel like wotlk, its not wotlk and it will never be wotlk.

[Adiomerovic15]

I can list 40+ bugs that was part of the wotlk classic client ontop of my head without using my braincells.
As I stated the only good part of the client was that it supported 62bit and the updated option interface.

Its not worth it what so ever for Warmane or any other private server to invest time into the classic client for minimal benefits.
Not to mention all the bugs that would come with using the legion core that classic wow runs on.. It does not feel like wotlk, its not wotlk and it will never be wotlk.

I think the 3.3.5 client became so good overnight and has no bugs, right? What kind of statement is that anyway? Of course something gets better the longer you work on it to optimize it. But that's exactly the point that everyone agrees on. Wotlk Classic would of course require a lot of work but that's the way it is.

It's nice if you're happy with the old game and therefore 32 bit, but there's no real alternative. But there are also many people who would be happy about 3.4.3. In comparison, it has many improvements that correspond to today's standards.
That's why I mentioned before that other projects want to give their players the opportunity to decide whether they want to use the old or the new one for exactly this reason.

Or why has a project created the possibility of playing on his TBC realm with 2.4.3, 3.3.5 or 2.5.2?
In another example that is only a few days old, another project has managed to give its players the opportunity to play on their Cata realms with 4.3.4 or Cataclysm Classic.

Regarding your previous statement that there is no project that supports Classic, which is also completely wrong, I would recommend that you find out more. On Reddit and other sites you can quickly find that it already exists.

[Adiomerovic15]

Y'all keep askin' without really understanding what you're askin' for. Far too much work involved for the minor benefits it would provide. Maybe it'll happen when we don't have other more important things to work on. Sometime in 2037 or something.

I do think that people know what they are asking. It's up to everyone whether they think Wotlk Classic is better or worse. I would bet that most people will notice the improvements. This was actually the case with every Classic expansion.
But the choice doesn't even exist.

But just out of curiosity, I'm wondering what other, much more important improvements are supposed to be? I guess 3.3.5 by 2037 or something? At least I can't imagine that Warmane makes everything solely dependent on Wotlk 3.3.5 32 bit... and that as long as the ruble runs. Then I would somehow question the planning tbh.

....When I think about it, there has actually been an empty Mop Realm for several years that has never been actively worked on or its general usefulness has apparently been questioned.

But of course you can go according to the principle "only as good as necessary and not as possible". lol

[Shred]

I can list 40+ bugs that was part of the wotlk classic client ontop of my head without using my braincells.

Can you tell me one that isn't really a server-side issue?

I have to admit I didn't try the wrath client but the 1.14 client was superior in every way.

[ExtraEmily]

I think the 3.3.5 client became so good overnight and has no bugs, right? What kind of statement is that anyway? Of course something gets better the longer you work on it to optimize it. But that's exactly the point that everyone agrees on. Wotlk Classic would of course require a lot of work but that's the way it is.

It's nice if you're happy with the old client and therefore 32 bit, but there's no real alternative. But there are also many people who would be happy about 3.4.3. In comparison, it has many improvements that correspond to today's standards.
That's why I mentioned before that other projects want to give their players the opportunity to decide whether they want to use the old or the new one for exactly this reason.

Or why has a project created the possibility of playing on his TBC realm with 2.4.3, 3.3.5 or 2.5.2?
In another example that is only a few days old, another project has managed to give its players the opportunity to play on their Cata realms with 4.3.4 or 4.4.3.

Regarding your previous statement that there is no project that supports Classic, which is also completely wrong, I would recommend that you find out more. On Reddit and other sites you can quickly find that it already exists.

You type "everyone" alot when you are just using it to express your own opinion.
The only reason you would need 62bit client is to prevent crashes that rarely happends. I play with LAA and I crash maybe once a month if im unlucky.
Hermes which is what these vanilla servers use to allow classic client on was abandonned over two years ago in a unfinished state. This way of playing also opens you op to having a bunch of unknown programs on your computer.. Not alot of people are going to be okay with having unknown things on their computer..

""Todays standarsd"" Are you aware that you are on a forum for a game that got released in 2006? and you want ""todays standards""
Why dont you just go play on one of these ""awesome classic wotlk"" servers with 10 players online if they are so good and stop trying to promote your classic propaganda here since its not going to hapend

Can you tell me one that isn't really a server-side issue?

I have to admit I didn't try the wrath client but the 1.14 client was superior in every way.

""This project enables play on existing legacy WoW emulation cores using the modern clients. It serves as a translation layer, converting all network traffic to the appropriate format each side can understand.""
Bugs that only existed on classic wont be present on a 1.12 version of the game. Which is what you are emulating using a classic client that connects with hermes and tons of unstrusted proxies..

[Obnoxious]

In another example that is only a few days old, another project has managed to give its players the opportunity to play on their Cata realms with 4.3.4 or 4.4.3.

Cataclysm was when the use of 64 bits began.

[Adiomerovic15]

You type "everyone" alot when you are just using it to express your own opinion.
The only reason you would need 62bit client is to prevent crashes that rarely happends. I play with LAA and I crash maybe once a month if im unlucky.
Hermes which is what these vanilla servers use to allow classic client on was abandonned over two years ago in a unfinished state. This way of playing also opens you op to having a bunch of unknown programs on your computer.. Not alot of people are going to be okay with having unknown things on their computer..

""Todays standarsd"" Are you aware that you are on a forum for a game that got released in 2006? and you want ""todays standards""
Why dont you just go play on one of these ""awesome classic wotlk"" servers with 10 players online if they are so good and stop trying to promote your classic propaganda here since its not going to hapend



""This project enables play on existing legacy WoW emulation cores using the modern clients. It serves as a translation layer, converting all network traffic to the appropriate format each side can understand.""
Bugs that only existed on classic wont be present on a 1.12 version of the game. Which is what you are emulating using a classic client that connects with hermes and tons of unstrusted proxies..

Wotlk Classic has a lot more to offer and the improvements are huge. What you described refers to some mods that don't fit the topic here.
It's true that Hermes can be used for vanilla and tbc. But it's also possible without it, as far as I've noticed. For example, Cataclysm Classic doesn't run on Hermes.

Yes, thanks for the tip, I noticed that, but that doesn't mean that you have to stay at the level of 2006 and not be open to new things.

I would really like to play on these realms, especially on Warmane, but unfortunately that option doesn't exist yet. The only thing that no one has released yet is Wotlk Classic. I just noticed that other projects are working on it. Btw I find it fascinating that you know the population of Wotlk Classic realms that don't exist yet.

[Shred]

""This project enables play on existing legacy WoW emulation cores using the modern clients. It serves as a translation layer, converting all network traffic to the appropriate format each side can understand.""
Bugs that only existed on classic wont be present on a 1.12 version of the game. Which is what you are emulating using a classic client that connects with hermes and tons of unstrusted proxies..

I am not talking about hermes, which is a piece of ****. I am talking about the client itself when connected to a server that natively speaks the new protocol.

[Obnoxious]

For example, Cataclysm Classic doesn't run on Hermes.

Again... Cataclysm was the expansion where 64-bits clients began.

Cataclysm and Cataclysm Classic = both 64-bits.
Burning Crusade and Burning Crusade Classic = 32-bits vs. 64-bits.

[Adiomerovic15]

Again... Cataclysm was the expansion where 64-bits clients began.

Cataclysm and Cataclysm Classic = both 64-bits.
Burning Crusade and Burning Crusade Classic = 32-bits vs. 64-bits.

I understand you and hopefully you understand me too. Maybe we'll talk past each other a bit....
Let's get to the point, Wotlk Classic would be a cool thing and many would be happy with such an additional thing...Obnoxious throw some ball back to us now.

[ExtraEmily]

I am not talking about hermes, which is a piece of ****. I am talking about the client itself when connected to a server that natively speaks the new protocol.

All private servers will require you to use someform of proxy to be able to use the new client and emulate 1.12
You can sugar coat it all you want but thats how it works.

[Shred]

All private servers will require you to use someform of proxy to be able to use the new client and emulate 1.12
You can sugar coat it all you want but thats how it works.

By now. Eventually someone will get around to doing the necessary work. This thread is asking the warmane staff to do that work. I know it's a big undertaking.

(I am aware some people at trinity were working on it but I have no idea how that went)

But saying that the client is bad because there are no good server implementations besides Blizzard's makes no sense to me.