I wanna understand the mind of a PvP camper

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I'll try giving you an answer that doesn't boil down to "It's a PvP server HuRrDUrr":

It's an old, well organised server with all the boredom that comes with it - factions are skewed in regards to their PvP affinty, a lot of battlegrounds are won before they're played if you know the names of the pvp scene and who you're up against.
It's a lot of hit and miss and I'd rather not get into the specifics of WHY that is - more eloquent people than me have tried to have this discussion, it usually gets dismissed. I'm just tired by now.

In short: It's all so damn predictable and boring at this point.

That's where you come in. If I gank you for half an hour, who knows what will happen?
Maybe you will log over and flame. Maybe you have friends to fight me, so I can get friends and so on - emergent gameplay, if you're familiar with the term.
Until one side brings a whole raid, which they absolutely will if you're in a pvp guild, some multiboxer destroys said emergent gameplay, or you log out frustrated, everything about this is more fun than ANOTHER RBG, no matter if WSG, a farm-AV or Wintergrasp.

TL;DR: PvP on Warmane is stale, has been for years now, and ganking you promises more entertainment, whichever way it goes, than playing duel N°5348 or another BG.

kind regards,
Trommel/Bernd

see you when you gank me back!

But I don't understand, if pvp is stale, and realistically nobody really cares about it all that much enough to the point where you see the same people and they're also multiboxing, why not play a game like DOTA or League of Legends or even SMITE where pvp is the literal focus of the game?

While I trust your response, it's really unnecessary to ruin a game for someone praying for excitement when you can just get more excitement from a different outlet. Even the art style is the same handpainted assets. I know my stance might fall on deaf ears to you, but you should just try those games out instead of mindlessly waiting for someone to bother.

[Redise]

I'll answer this one, but I'd prefer if you kept to your initial question:
I have friends here, or at least parasocial relationships you're allowed to call whatever.
Some know my birthday, some know what my cat looks like and what its name is - some know how my last breakup went or what I jerk off to.

So counter point: Why would I enter another competitive toxic game where I have to rebuild that from scratch?
Lose people I've known for years?
You have to understand PvP is here to keep my hands busy; I'm actually more interested in what guild member #83 has had for dinner and how their recent job application went.

That's all it is and ever was. I spend quality time and you die in the process.
I'm here because these people are here, and I'd welcome change, but until either one goes away or one changes, this is where we are.
I like to call it sunk cost fallacy, because it probably is.

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I'll answer this one, but I'd prefer if you kept to your initial question:
I have friends here, or at least parasocial relationships you're allowed to call whatever.
Some know my birthday, some know what my cat looks like and what its name is - some know how my last breakup went or what I jerk off to.

So counter point: Why would I enter another competitive toxic game where I have to rebuild that from scratch?
Lose people I've known for years?
You have to understand PvP is here to keep my hands busy; I'm actually more interested in what guild member #83 has had for dinner and how their recent job application went.

That's all it is and ever was. I spend quality time and you die in the process.
I'm here because these people are here, and I'd welcome change, but until either one goes away or one changes, this is where we are.
I like to call it sunk cost fallacy, because it probably is.

I see, touch`e.

[Xauri]

I'm more specifically talking about the guys who camp nonstop specifically.

Somebody posted in another ganking/camping thread that "the wheel keeps spinning" or something like that, referring to someone else threatening to camp the opposing faction's lowby's when they hit lvl 80. The point is maybe those who camp nonstop were once camped nonstop, and they're now scarred and feel they need redemption? And maybe they nonstop-camped for 4 hours, yet the previous cycle was only 3 hours of camping, then 2 hours, then 1 hour, then maybe 2-3 times and leave. So it just exponentially grew? Some people are much more vindictive than others. I don't know, sounds good though right?

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Somebody posted in another ganking/camping thread that "the wheel keeps spinning" or something like that, referring to someone else threatening to camp the opposing faction's lowby's when they hit lvl 80. The point is maybe those who camp nonstop were once camped nonstop, and they're now scarred and feel they need redemption? And maybe they nonstop-camped for 4 hours, yet the previous cycle was only 3 hours of camping, then 2 hours, then 1 hour, then maybe 2-3 times and leave. So it just exponentially grew? Some people are much more vindictive than others. I don't know, sounds good though right?

Sounds like they probably play too much wow and do nothing else xD

At reaching max level all I'm thinking about is doing heroics.

[Gigapala]

I did Gank lowbies too, why? Because i was bored, i play just PvP, did reach already high Rate in all Bracket, when you are above 2.2 mmr in Soloq, you get just a 1-3 hours time window a das to get Queues and Bgs are boring, so lets make some lowbies suffer, just to realize mhmm f**k tgat Game and go inactive for few Weeks again. It is because this Game is so freakin old, nothing to do in it anymore, it will get worse and worse over time too

[Shred]

I did Gank lowbies too, why? Because i was bored, i play just PvP, did reach already high Rate in all Bracket, when you are above 2.2 mmr in Soloq, you get just a 1-3 hours time window a das to get Queues and Bgs are boring, so lets make some lowbies suffer, just to realize mhmm f**k tgat Game and go inactive for few Weeks again. It is because this Game is so freakin old, nothing to do in it anymore, it will get worse and worse over time too

If you are bored of the game maybe stop playing it instead of trying to ruin it for those who enjoy it.