Realms Let’s Bring 3v3 Back to Life – It Deserves More Than Just 1 Hour a Week

[Obnoxious]

Something like that honestly wouldn't be too far outside the scope of the rewards currently. They already give out an unobtainable TCG card game mount and titles.

Yes, it would. None of the unobtainable items are custom content, while all your suggestions are.

Regarding the suggestion overall, this is just a rehearsal of older threads. In the end of the day the truth remains that the content is readily available, gets a small window that tries to promote it and already has a best-in-slot piece of gear gated behind it, yet people prefer to skip that item or get it with Coins where available. For any regular person that screams major lack of interest. 3v3 is a niche format just like 5v5, the vast majority of people have zero interest in the hassle involved in putting together a team that has synergy and can work well together, much less in keeping it going long enough.

It also doesn't lack "visibility," I can't picture a single serious PvPer who would go surprised Pikachu at finding out it exists. What it lacks is people interested, like has been the case for years and years, and that simply isn't something we change. People like what they like, have fun with what they have fun, and avoid stuff that they will see as stressful. Even more exclusive rewards would, if successful, just add some more teams who would ditch it again as soon as they got the rewards they wanted - as already is the case with the shoulders.

[idkmanwhateverx]

Yes, it would. None of the unobtainable items are custom content, while all your suggestions are.

Regarding the suggestion overall, this is just a rehearsal of older threads. In the end of the day the truth remains that the content is readily available, gets a small window that tries to promote it and already has a best-in-slot piece of gear gated behind it, yet people prefer to skip that item or get it with Coins where available. For any regular person that screams major lack of interest. 3v3 is a niche format just like 5v5, the vast majority of people have zero interest in the hassle involved in putting together a team that has synergy and can work well together, much less in keeping it going long enough.

It also doesn't lack "visibility," I can't picture a single serious PvPer who would go surprised Pikachu at finding out it exists. What it lacks is people interested, like has been the case for years and years, and that simply isn't something we change. People like what they like, have fun with what they have fun, and avoid stuff that they will see as stressful. Even more exclusive rewards would, if successful, just add some more teams who would ditch it again as soon as they got the rewards they wanted - as already is the case with the shoulders.

Fair points — I get where you're coming from. You're right that 3v3 has always been more niche than 2s, and yeah, not everyone wants to deal with the coordination it requires. That’s the reality.

But let’s not confuse “niche” with “hopeless.” Some formats in WoW have come back to life when supported properly — RDF in WotLK was hated at launch, now people won’t play without it. The point is, interest follows structure + opportunity, not just raw preference.

You mentioned that serious PvPers already know 3v3 exists — agreed. But being aware of a bracket isn’t the same as feeling like it’s worth engaging with. When queues are dead, it kills any motivation to even try. Visibility in this case isn’t about awareness — it’s about momentum.

As for rewards, I agree — they shouldn’t just be bait to get people in temporarily. But if people are dropping out after getting shoulders, that’s actually proof of the issue: the format itself needs more support to retain players, not just reward them.

I'm not saying we force 3v3 down anyone’s throat — just that writing it off entirely because it’s "always been niche" feels like giving up on something that could still have potential with a bit of investment.

[Obnoxious]

I'm not confusing "niche" with "hopeless," but you might be confusing "hopeful" and "delusional."

We have been here for over a decade and the mythical masses of 3v3 players are yet to show up. All of what you're claiming relies on there being players who want it, not on there being "momentum" or "structure" or "opportunity." Building a steakhouse in a vegan colony isn't going to fail because of "lack of investment and support."

[jmsvanbuskirk]

Yes, it would. None of the unobtainable items are custom content, while all your suggestions are.

Plainsrunner title is a current reward associated with arena on Warmane. That's custom. TCG rooster mount is associated with arena. That's custom. Solo Queue is an entirely new game mode. Custom. Transmog scrolls are available on Warmane from arena. Custom custom custom.

Flawless Victor is a real title in Wrath. Gamemaster items are real items. The ability to transmog is already in the game. What I suggested isn't even a tweak to a game mode, tracking win streaks is already available on the website. I mean I posted the suggestion for fun. I don't actually expect it to get implemented like 99.9% of suggestions in this forum, but if you wanted to argue then ok.

3 v 3 isn't dead. I agree it's not the most preferred bracket. The discussion is just about ways to liven it up a little bit.

[Obnoxious]

I mean I posted the suggestion for fun. I don't actually expect it to get implemented like 99.9% of suggestions in this forum, but if you wanted to argue then ok.

You said they wouldn't be outside the scope of rewards we give, and they are. Whataboutism and slippery slopes aren't arguments.

3 v 3 isn't dead. I agree it's not the most preferred bracket. The discussion is just about ways to liven it up a little bit.

No one is saying it's dead. It's alive, in the niche size it has always been and will remain, because the basic component for it to be bigger is nowhere to be found. No amount of turning up the music will liven up a party ten people want to attend.

[jmsvanbuskirk]

I don't get what you're saying. What does whataboutism and slippery slope have to do with this discussion at all. I outlined every clearly why the rewards weren't outside the scope of current Warmane rewards. To make it even worse I can tell you that Flawless Victor has been used as a reward before as well as gamemaster items.

[idkmanwhateverx]

I'm not confusing "niche" with "hopeless," but you might be confusing "hopeful" and "delusional."

We have been here for over a decade and the mythical masses of 3v3 players are yet to show up. All of what you're claiming relies on there being players who want it, not on there being "momentum" or "structure" or "opportunity." Building a steakhouse in a vegan colony isn't going to fail because of "lack of investment and support."

That steakhouse analogy’s cute, but here’s the thing — on Blackrock, we didn’t even put meat on the menu. No BIS rewards, no real visibility, just a one-hour slot and soloQ. Of course it’s empty.

The point isn’t that 3v3 is secretly loved by everyone — it’s that the way it’s set up now guarantees it stays dead. You say people don’t want it, but what exactly are they being offered? No rewards, no time to play it, no reason to bother building a comp.

And if the bracket’s meant to be niche, fine — but then let’s stop pretending that one hour of exposure is some major effort to support it. You can’t half-*** it and then claim the format failed on its own.

[shensigma]

Welp, now let's enjoy our 3v3 one hour short-límited extravaganza ?

[zorino]

That steakhouse analogy’s cute, but here’s the thing — on Blackrock, we didn’t even put meat on the menu. No BIS rewards, no real visibility, just a one-hour slot and soloQ. Of course it’s empty.

The point isn’t that 3v3 is secretly loved by everyone — it’s that the way it’s set up now guarantees it stays dead. You say people don’t want it, but what exactly are they being offered? No rewards, no time to play it, no reason to bother building a comp.

And if the bracket’s meant to be niche, fine — but then let’s stop pretending that one hour of exposure is some major effort to support it. You can’t half-*** it and then claim the format failed on its own.

One "possible" reason is that this game is too old, it has had its day.
The interest and fun of the past is something that cannot return to being as it was before.

So, get over it without thinking about it anymore.

[idkmanwhateverx]

One "possible" reason is that this game is too old, it has had its day.
The interest and fun of the past is something that cannot return to being as it was before.

So, get over it without thinking about it anymore.

If the game's too old to care about, what are we all still doing here?

Nobody’s asking to turn back time — the suggestion is about improving the experience right now, with small changes that could bring more life to an underused part of the game.

“Just get over it” isn’t a real argument. If you’ve got nothing constructive to add, why even reply?

[MyNameIsNO]

Either you like it or not current day people don't want to deal with people. No one wants to find 2 arena partners and being able to play only when both of them are online and only when both of them want to play arena. People would be a lot more interested in 2v2 solo que or 5v5 solo que so they can play whatever they want whenever they want. Also 5.5k blackrock trolls are ruining solo que for years now.

[Obnoxious]

That steakhouse analogy’s cute, but here’s the thing — on Blackrock, we didn’t even put meat on the menu. No BIS rewards, no real visibility, just a one-hour slot and soloQ. Of course it’s empty.

The point isn’t that 3v3 is secretly loved by everyone — it’s that the way it’s set up now guarantees it stays dead. You say people don’t want it, but what exactly are they being offered? No rewards, no time to play it, no reason to bother building a comp.

And if the bracket’s meant to be niche, fine — but then let’s stop pretending that one hour of exposure is some major effort to support it. You can’t half-*** it and then claim the format failed on its own.

Seriously, keep telling yourself that as much as you like. Reality won't bend to your will, though.

3v3 isn't Fight Club. People know it's there, but aren't interested, for whatever reason each one has, period. It has the same visibility any other type of Arena does - or even more, since it has a special weekly hour for it, which 2v2 and 5v5 don't.

It already has exclusive best-in-slot gear rewards that 2v2 and 5v5 don't get, so they are being offered rewards.Yet nothing is enough, somehow. Every WoW player is itching to play 3v3, but damn, they just need more, more, MORE before they start doing it?

Let me know when you're back to the real world and ready to accept reality: 3v3 is the way it is because players don't care, and it shouldn't be up to us trying to force or bribe them into doing it because a few like it.

[idkmanwhateverx]

Seriously, keep telling yourself that as much as you like. Reality won't bend to your will, though.

3v3 isn't Fight Club. People know it's there, but aren't interested, for whatever reason each one has, period. It has the same visibility any other type of Arena does - or even more, since it has a special weekly hour for it, which 2v2 and 5v5 don't.

It already has exclusive best-in-slot gear rewards that 2v2 and 5v5 don't get, so they are being offered rewards.Yet nothing is enough, somehow. Every WoW player is itching to play 3v3, but damn, they just need more, more, MORE before they start doing it?

Let me know when you're back to the real world and ready to accept reality: 3v3 is the way it is because players don't care, and it shouldn't be up to us trying to force or bribe them into doing it because a few like it.

Respectfully — you’re acting like I’m demanding a miracle. I’m not asking to “bend reality” or summon thousands of new players out of thin air. I’m pointing out that the current setup actively discourages 3v3 participation, and it could be improved.

You keep saying people “just aren’t interested” like that’s some fixed law of the universe. But in a game where queues and visibility shape activity, interest isn’t static — it follows what’s supported and encouraged. 3v3 gets one hour a week and zero rewards on Blackrock. That’s not “equal visibility” — that’s a side room with the lights off.

And no, I don’t believe players are “itching to play 3v3” and just waiting for handouts. But it’s wild to suggest that asking for modest improvements = begging or delusion. Wanting better support for a neglected format isn’t some fantasy crusade — it’s feedback.

I’m fully in the real world. I just don’t think accepting the status quo means giving up on ideas completely.

[shensigma]

3v3 isn't Fight Club. People know it's there, but aren't interested, for whatever reason each one has, period. It has the same visibility any other type of Arena does - or even more, since it has a special weekly hour for it, which 2v2 and 5v5 don't.

false. if it has the same "visibility" as any other type of arena does then, why everytime special weekly hour comes in EVERYOTHER Bracket becomes disable to choose and forcing everybody to play 3s in blackrock? then again, one hour of 3s exclusivity won't do big change.

It already has exclusive best-in-slot gear rewards that 2v2 and 5v5 don't get, so they are being offered rewards.Yet nothing is enough, somehow. Every WoW player is itching to play 3v3, but damn, they just need more, more, MORE before they start doing it?

Also false. Blackrock pvp realm which probably has the lowest amount of players in comparison to lordaeron has the benefit of getting every pvp piece of gear by playing 2s and nothing else.
which begs the question, why can't lord and icecrown servers have this treatment? even blizzard did it with their classic server since they knew pvp overall had extremely low poor exposition.

and right. we are being offered gear reward, sure. although for what good if we can't even play it at all? and i mean playing 3s back and forth without having to wait quarter of hour on queue sitting there doing nothing but waiting and no, having to wait exclusively to sundays just so people can gather for one hour isn't really a help at all.

Let me know when you're back to the real world and ready to accept reality: 3v3 is the way it is because players don't care, and it shouldn't be up to us trying to force or bribe them into doing it because a few like it.

3v3 is the way it is due to the community being allowed to purchase exclusive bis gear with coins and totally bypassing, skipping and nullifying any need of doing actual 3v3 arena content or wose yet, doing any pvp at all. i bet you, even if you can put those exclusive pvp gear pieces at the price of let say SM, people will at least think twice and reconsider the idea of probably trying to push and do 3v3 or any arena bracket before purchasing any high end exclusive pvp items .

[shensigma]

Once again, let's enjoy our 1 hour límites 3v3 extravaganza hour ?