Hey guys, im not sure about expertose cap, whats the laat result for expertise? How much shoul it be?
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Hey guys, im not sure about expertose cap, whats the laat result for expertise? How much shoul it be?
So almost finished gearing up my SP Enhance set and I can honestly say it's doing comparable if not better damage then elemental shamans. I will soon be making a guide for it with talent tree, BiS list and so on!
I already calculated such a gear with http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50734 + http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50737 , double flametongue, caster offset, t10 enh set and DFO+CTS.
Does ~12448 dps on EnhSim.
In comparison, the normal BiS gear does 〜13140 dps
In icc ull do around 1k less single target dps with the SP gear while the aoe dps is slightly higher.
Since u are using double Reign of the Unliving ur dps gonna be higher because this trinket has currently no ICD.
Double reign is working correctly now and you don't use havoc's off hand, you use Kryss. as for your simulator its wrong, because it doesn't have the actual BiS gear and talents and glyphs to measure on. I just did a voa25 and pulled 13k dps :) and I'm still missing 5 pieces from the BiS gearset that I've calculated.
13k dps in VoA seems legit since magma and fire nova deal AoE dmg to all the frost orbs.
Can u pls share ur data? Did u use Rawr or EnhSim to calculate ur gear setup?
I calculated many different kind of sp setups and http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50737 always outperforms http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50736 by at least 200 dps. Even with double Reign of the Unliving the slower http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50737 gives more dps.
Since flametongue scales with weapon speed there is really no reason to use the faster dagger.
Spellpower Enhance BiS gear by Epicsham:
Head|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51247
Neck|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50724
Shoulders|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50698
Back|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54583
Chest|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50629
Wrist|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54582
Hands|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51243
Waist|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54587
Legs|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51241
Feet|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50699
Finger|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50398
Finger|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50614
Trinket|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=47182
Trinket|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=47188
Main Hand|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50734
Off-hand|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50736
Relic|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50458
That is the BiS set for SP enhance I haven't fully finished my set, but anyone is welcome to inspect my sham Epicsham for gems enhancts etc
*Bracers are debatable you can also go for http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54584
I mainly have used wowequip to check stats, which a friend had given me from actual retail Wotlk and have done various tests on dummys and actual heroic raids.
I have concluded that for this spec you need the following:
Hit rating: 525 or 16% *Note I am a Draenei
Expertise rating: 110 or 22/22
Haste: at least 750 at BiS
Crit: As much as you can after you hit 750 haste
Spell power: As much as you can! Spellpower, Gemming wise is approx equal in DPS value as Crit rating when BiS as stated above.
Glyphs: Theses Glyphs literally make this spec and Major Glyphs are irrefutable
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=41539
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=41532
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=41530
Talents there are 2 ways to go for this spec you can inspect my Shaman for both tree's: http://armory.warmane.com/character/...ecrown/summary
As for actual weapon imbued's, you use Double Flametounge weapon instead of Windfury, which with the glyph gives you 4% passive Spell Crit.
Spell priority is fairly similar to normal enhance however, Firenova is higher up on the priority list.
Professions I'm using are Engineering and Jewelcrafting which I find best personally, with these professions you have extactly 525 hit rating when BiS and Gemmed / Enchanted correctly
This spec is really fun and I honestly can say does more Dps than a Normal Enhance, and is more versatile in certain fights.
Hope to see more people trying this spec out, and if anyone has any questions you can always contact me Ingame or through forums!
- Epicsham aka Bdsm aka The Trendy Enhance Shaman
Thanks for sharing. Ill check ur gear setup with EnhSim out.
I also calculated a new double flametongue gear setup that is only 200 dps behind the normal bis gear.
Ill do some more testing then ill also add it here to the gear list.
I calculated ur setup with EnhSim and it deals ~12077 single target dps (1k less dps than the normal BiS gear).
The problem with ur gear setup is that u focus too much on spellpower.
Even with double flametongue sp remains a pretty poor stat.
The stat value with ur gear setup looks like this:
http://imgur.com/a/2ZLcY
The better option would be to use more agility items with hit/crit/haste since these 3 attributes are ur most beneficial stats.
My double flametongue gear setup deals ~12940 single target dps (200 less dps than the normal BiS gear).
Ill just list the items here. I might add it later on to the front page.
Slot|Gem|Enchant
Head| http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51242 |21agi 3%crit, 10hit 10exp | 50ap 20crit
Neck| http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50658 |10hit 10exp
Shoulders| http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51240 | 20hit | 40ap 15crit
Back| http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54583 |20exp | 23haste
Chest| http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51244 |10hit 10exp , 10stats | +10stats
Wrist| http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54580 |10hit 10exp , 20hit | 50ap
Hands|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50619 |34haste, 10hit 10exp, 20haste | 20hit
Waist|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54587 |34haste, 20haste, 20exp
Legs|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51241 |10hit 10exp, 34haste | 75ap 22crit
Feet|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50711 |20haste, 20haste | 12crit 12hit
Finger|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54576 |20haste
Finger|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50402 |20haste
Trinket|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54588
Trinket|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50355
Main Hand| http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50734 | 20exp | Berserking
Off-hand|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50737 | 20exp | Berserking
Relic|http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50458
Glyphs:
Flametongue, Stormstrike, Lightning Shield
Spec:
http://wotlk.openwow.com/talent#hVhhVbZhxxI0xzIhusouVo
Ability priority order:
1) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=51532 x 5 stacks - http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=49240
2) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=49233
3) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=17364 if debuff not active
4) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=49281 if not active
5) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=2894
6) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=58735 if not active
7) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=51533
8) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=30823
9) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=68100
10) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=61657
11) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=17364
12) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=60103
13) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=58735
14) |http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=49281
Edited: January 14, 2017
Interesting there are a few ways you can go about it I suppose I did consider going something similar to what you stated above but after doing a few tests in game with various weapons and gear spell power seemed to outperform agility items I don't know how accurate rawr calculations are to the real actual server. I'll try to record an actual single target dps fight in ICC with how my shaman is currently geared.
Does rawr calculate raid composition and buffs?
Yes, it does.
U can activate/deactivate any raid buff.
Also buff food, potion, etc...
EnhSim provides more accurate results though.
U can make a gear setup with RAWR and then copy the data into EnhSim and simulate a boss fight.
Download links for RAWR and EnhSim are on the front page.
Edited: January 14, 2017
i have a question for you Jakkre
With a similar bis list rawr says glyph of flame shock its way better than windfury, can you give some insight why you choose wind instead (on normal spec ofc, not this caster one)
The BiS gear setup is based on EnhSim because its is more accurate than RAWR.
On EnhSim glyph of windfury yields more dps.
U can download EnhSim here: http://enhsim.codeplex.com/
Export ur RAWR data to EnhSim and then run the simulation.
Edited: January 16, 2017
Hi! Can you tell me which addon you are using to export your character profile data for Rawr? I've searchig for different addons but I got only errors. I couldn't found Rawr addon for 3.3.5a. On WoW Curse they start from Cataclysm (4.0.1).
Edited: January 31, 2017
Thats the latest Wotlk version of RAWR: http://rawr.codeplex.com/releases/view/51100
Make a gear setup with RAWR, in the upper right corner click on "export" and "copy data to clipboard".
Then open EnhSim and click on "copy from clipboard" and u can run the simulation.
EnhSim works only for Enhance shami though.