PvP (BG) mentality???

[-Notorious-]

Gods.... this is very serious!

Stop thinking so much about me, hahaha!

Guess you post it so often I couldn't think someone else would :P

[mikekeeA]

we all know who the skilled players are notorious... we constantly have our own heads up our a**es and have to much pride to unite as one...

- Lemonkush

[Watamote]

I'll be honest; out of 15 BGs on Horde side I've played so far, 9 of them were premade.

Well yeah. Premades are generally going to have a better attitude. If you like premades, you should join us in The Unchained. Devastation is also a good PvP guild on Horde I've seen do some pretty awesome premade groups.

[mikekeeA]

I do agree with you though Notorious, some players both sides are very bad, but that's a private server for you.

- Lemonkush

[Zaharije13]

I am playing on horde and I mostly play random BG's. I actually geared up my 522 ilvl hunter almost only playing BG's because I am not that skilled at arenas and I find BG's to be much more fun and entertaining. I am member of PvP/PvE guild and I try to organize as many premades that I can, but the start of was pretty hard. I started BG's with contender/green gear and as you can expect I wasn't much of a use. As a hunter I tried to cc as much as I could but that was showing results only if the rest of the team was doing their job. At first I was still learning everything about the game so I didn't do much premades. After I got to know some people in the guild premades were basically my default way of q-ing for BG's and still are now.
I can say this for the horde: there are fewer global or guild premades with 500+ characters on the horde side. Most people just make premades fot he fun of it, and as far my guild is concerned there is a general consensus not to restrict premades based on ilvl. If I make premades I take anyone.
I actually think that gear doesn't win BG's but tactics do (unless the difference is really really big). Horde side also has afk-ers, players that only pvp and don't bother to catch/defend flagers/bases/flags, players who don't know what they are doing and so forth. I have heard people who came from alliance complain how ally is worse than horde in pvp, but I have also witnessed a change of faction by 10+ guild members to alliance just because horde is horrible at pvp and alliance is better.
The obvious answer is actually the correct one: good premades with skilled players who know the tactics win BG's - not factions. Even gear isn't that important if you know what you are doing. Sometimes even individuals make the difference in win/lose situations but only if they know what they are doing. The one thing that happens on both sides is that some players tend to get cocky if they are winning and they let their guard down. I can't even count how many times I have won or lost a BG because players started camping on GY while some fast player was caping flags, or a few got out and caped bases.
As far as social interaction is concerned I have found that alliance players tend to be more rude. On the Horde side you can always find a jerk, but it doesn't happen that often.

[wargreymon3]

Don't move to horde unless you want your problems to intensify a thousand fold. Right now horde are losing the vast majority of BGs, and it's pretty hard to dispute this at this point. Horde players are jaded. It's really sad joining a BG on horde side and seeing plenty of geared players and thinking "oh, this one could win!" then watching them all systematically give up right at the start because they died one time or the Alliance scored one flag.

While all this is going on, maybe two or three of us are fighting out the whole BG without them while they sit at the graveyard and cry. The score could be nearly tied and often times we'll EVEN BE WINNING and they'll still be sitting there crying about how we always lose and about low geared players who have joined their battleground instead of helping to secure the win.

I see this even when I play on my Alliance characters. The horde team will start out fierce and aggressive during the first two minutes or so then just completely drop the ball and give up when they realize it's not a perfect game for them.

err some of us have played this game long enough to know whether our team stand a chance against the enemy or not.
if the whole team got butchered in under 10-20 secs the moment they met enemies team, doesnt matter what you do you wont be able to change the outcome. the only times you could win out of this match is if several people of your team quit and good (and geared) players come in. that is, assuming that the rest of the players havent given up yet.

[zzadr]

I remember smashing countless unchained premade when I was ally, it all comes down to personal skill in the end

Noto you managed to troll the troll.