Playing where the skill matters.

[Synx7]

I'm death knight,no rogue wins me in 10 20 or 30 second rofl?
30 second duel average? Dude do you even try to participate or to watch 1v1 events on warmane stream? To see how skilled players fight there for minutes even to 15-20 mins a duel(seriously i had 17mins fight vs a ret pala on blackrock in the final of the event)

Tell me please the spell that takes 70% of your hp,i play pvp alot,never saw a such thing.

M8 go play your panda wow,seriously you have no clue about what are you talking,watching some beginners fighting and ending in 30 seconds the duel,and then judging THE WHOLE expansion based on that duel.

Stay on panda man xD,mist is far more balanced look at arenas healers never get omm,fight every match for 45 minutes acquire no life status ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfMri_Thxm8
Enjoy. so balanced. Please talk more at how balanced is wotlk. Its only gear =/= skill. But gears means a lot more
2-3 shooting everyone , thats why ppl loves this xpac, i start to get it now

[Mchaplain]

I'm death knight,no rogue wins me in 10 20 or 30 second rofl?
30 second duel average? Dude do you even try to participate or to watch 1v1 events on warmane stream? To see how skilled players fight there for minutes even to 15-20 mins a duel(seriously i had 17mins fight vs a ret pala on blackrock in the final of the event)

Tell me please the spell that takes 70% of your hp,i play pvp alot,never saw a such thing.

M8 go play your panda wow,seriously you have no clue about what are you talking,watching some beginners fighting and ending in 30 seconds the duel,and then judging THE WHOLE expansion based on that duel.

Stay on panda man xD,mist is far more balanced look at arenas healers never get omm,fight every match for 45 minutes acquire no life status ;D

Wow you must be a special kind of dumb.

[Elipas]

Wow you must be a special kind of dumb.

Yeah,but not enought to play on pandas expansion for 45 mins matches and spells pruned,and almost all classes have same **** stuns fear snares,they are not special as in wotlk

[Elipas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfMri_Thxm8
Enjoy. so balanced. Please talk more at how balanced is wotlk. Its only gear =/= skill. But gears means a lot more
2-3 shooting everyone , thats why ppl loves this xpac, i start to get it now

1. Either bugged (when sm did more dmg)
2. You can see that guy is bis,his enemies are even with saronite plate gear check that paladin and warrior confronting him,he is doing 8-9k easy,because almost everyone there is lowbie.

Being bis 6.6+ having half pve items and half pvp items roflstomping randoms in bgs is not the same fighting geared ones.

Ye well,what do you expect? Same is on mop aswell if i undergear you with bis items and you're with green/blue ones do i one shoot you?
I guess so,like it or no,mop failed wow,but wotlk didn't just compare the subs and you will see,even high rated pvp players said that wotlk is best.

[Critically]

Yeah,but not enought to play on pandas expansion for 45 mins matches and spells pruned,and almost all classes have same **** stuns fear snares,they are not special as in wotlk

It has ups and downs, MW Monks are quite stupid and unbelievable overpowered, every 10 seconds he has a miss passive (forgot it's name) so if you stun him he has 3 seconds miss, and those 3 sec he is already full health and his partner is full health as well. Everything is incredibly overpowered, especially Warriors, Hunters, Monks & Warlocks. Warriors have more stuns & cc then rogues...Almost every nab war is above 1700 rating. Just pick disc priest and gg, Warlocks..if destro, 7 sec fear, spam chaos bolt, when he got ember stacks, each chaos bolt crits you above 100k
Windwalker Monks have like insta burst, no cooldown on it, just generate TEB stacks and gg.

[Elipas]

It has ups and downs, MW Monks are quite stupid and unbelievable overpowered, every 10 seconds he has a miss passive (forgot it's name) so if you stun him he has 3 seconds miss, and those 3 sec he is already full health and his partner is full health as well. Everything is incredibly overpowered, especially Warriors, Hunters, Monks & Warlocks. Warriors have more stuns & cc then rogues...Almost every nab war is above 1700 rating. Just pick disc priest and gg, Warlocks..if destro, 7 sec fear, spam chaos bolt, when he got ember stacks, each chaos bolt crits you above 100k
Windwalker Monks have like insta burst, no cooldown on it, just generate TEB stacks and gg.

Ye i know,all expansion have their op classes specs and compositions,but unlike mop,on wotlk is better,of course some people find mop to be more fun for them as wotlk being fun fun for me,but atleast saying that mop is better in terms of pvp and that wotlk is everything about gear LOL shame,all games are about equipments(bis) best in slot,not just wow,but a 6.6k+ will do a huge difference vs 5k gs and 4k 3k,gear matter alot... everywhere. Some players can't reach their full potential without some special items.

See that video above from mr.Synx7 a bis killing greens and 200 item lvl players. Nice facts

[Synx7]

Ye i know,all expansion have their op classes specs and compositions,but unlike mop,on wotlk is better,of course some people find mop to be more fun for them as wotlk being fun fun for me,but atleast saying that mop is better in terms of pvp and that wotlk is everything about gear LOL shame,all games are about equipments(bis) best in slot,not just wow,but a 6.6k+ will do a huge difference vs 5k gs and 4k 3k,gear matter alot... everywhere. Some players can't reach their full potential without some special items.

See that video above from mr.Synx7 a bis killing greens and 200 item lvl players. Nice facts

"""Ye well,what do you expect? Same is on mop aswell if i undergear you with bis items and you're with green/blue ones do i one shoot you?"""
Obviously, i expect that.
The only difference is that , i'm full geared. There's only spell balances. Indeed huntards , warriors are broken op but is somewhat doable. He might win vs me, either because an op spell , either because of skill. In wotlk, you might lose either by skill, either by Gear , either by an op spell. Too many odds
Even in wotlk if i'm full pvp geared, a mixed pvp/pve BiS with SM can wreck you so bad. MoP gearing is a lot better than wotlk one.
Why can't you just get full PvE BiS gear, like a rogue for example and one shooting everything ? Why does this class even needs pvp gear? Just an example. Because as a rogue theres many ways to avoid gettin touched.

[Elipas]

"""Ye well,what do you expect? Same is on mop aswell if i undergear you with bis items and you're with green/blue ones do i one shoot you?"""
Obviously, i expect that.
The only difference is that , i'm full geared. There's only spell balances. Indeed huntards , warriors are broken op but is somewhat doable. He might win vs me, either because an op spell , either because of skill. In wotlk, you might lose either by skill, either by Gear , either by an op spell. Too many odds
Even in wotlk if i'm full pvp geared, a mixed pvp/pve BiS with SM can wreck you so bad. MoP gearing is a lot better than wotlk one.
Why can't you just get full PvE BiS gear, like a rogue for example and one shooting everything ? Why does this class even needs pvp gear? Just an example. Because as a rogue theres many ways to avoid gettin touched.

What kind of op spell are you talking about? xD name one,still waiting for that "-70% of your hp" post it here.
Everything you said applies in any game. Sm or not,its debatable.

[Critically]

"""Ye well,what do you expect? Same is on mop aswell if i undergear you with bis items and you're with green/blue ones do i one shoot you?"""
Obviously, i expect that.
The only difference is that , i'm full geared. There's only spell balances. Indeed huntards , warriors are broken op but is somewhat doable. He might win vs me, either because an op spell , either because of skill. In wotlk, you might lose either by skill, either by Gear , either by an op spell. Too many odds
Even in wotlk if i'm full pvp geared, a mixed pvp/pve BiS with SM can wreck you so bad. MoP gearing is a lot better than wotlk one.
Why can't you just get full PvE BiS gear, like a rogue for example and one shooting everything ? Why does this class even needs pvp gear? Just an example. Because as a rogue theres many ways to avoid gettin touched.

I have to agree with that, MoP gearing is a bit better due to PvP Power, you can't manage to deal super damage using half PvE half PvP gear, well 1 trinket and Ring ye, but PvP power is important, however let's say, the best rogue in the world faces the best hunter in the world, hunter wins. Hunter counters rogues in every way. I had cases, the moment i show up he instantly opens on me and i'm already dead, did not even see it coming. I personally believe that WotLK is more balanced, and it reminds me of the old days back in BC, the days were you had to do everything tactical in order to win, you had to think.