Multiboxing on Lordaeron | Yes or no?

[Jakkre]

A guild is not a single player. A army of people who accomplish a task is pretty normal and natural but a single player who accomplish the task of a army isn't natural at all. The only exeption is if you are a Jedy or a Sith (I'm waiting for a YoouTube video where a MBer shake his laser sword)

U completely failed to understand the essence of my post.

[kripas]

Well I'm neither German, Angry or a Kid. That's the beauty of text eh, no way to interpret the right emotions:)

you obviously didnt get my point ahah, i'm not saying that you look like an angry german kid (that would be kinda racist.. no?) i'm saying that you look like THE angry german kid. do a quick search on youtube.

On whoever said this thread should be closed, +1 upvote for you. both parts have gave their point of view and so continuing this... will lead to nowhere. GMs have our opinions allready and have their mind set allready, so the best would be closing the thread.

I probably wont post here anymore so all I can do now is to wish everyone happy gaming!

[MaxBlack1]

ok, i will add my opinion here...

as a person who actually tried to multibox (leveling them) I have great respect for those who can control and win PvP battles with them. on greater aspect MB isn't something wrong either in PvP or PvE.
sadly - when everything is for people - on private server MB is mostly used to griefing other players.

while I'm not fully against MB - current situation on Lordaeron threatens basic ideas of this special realm.

limitations and law are needed - and it must be done right - without killing multiboxers community, but remembering them that World of Warcraft is a MULTIPLAYER game.

about this topic...
reading posts i started to think..
most people who wrote they voted no - sounds like someone who got killed by 3+ hunters/shamans
most people who wrote they voted yes - have good reasons why they voted yes....

no vote from my side - this pool is redundant...

[Stampelle123]

most people who wrote they voted no - sounds like someone who got killed by 3+ hunters/shamans
most people who wrote they voted yes - have good reasons why they voted yes....

Most people who wrote they voted yes - sound like they love to insta-easily kill everyone wihout effort or risk to die. Just easy win, cheater win.

I really liked your initial neutral attitude but you lost yourself in the end.


http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....s-or-no/page32

[jaided]

Except that you're just trying to twist the actual difference until it seems to have a positive light shinning on it (or at least a less bad one). RDF wasn't disabled for "older-school functionality" for starters, we simply don't want that sort of shortcut on Lordaeron - and that's an actual customization of the content of the game, we are disabling a game function because it doesn't suits what we want for the server..

All I was trying to express there was that WOTLK went live on retail Nov 2008 and was active for 23 months. RDF was introduced 13 months after its release so WOTLK spent more than 50% of it's life on retail without RDF. I think leaving out the RDF shortcut is still a blizzlike, older-school, and hard-core implementation of WOTLK. My personal opinion is that Lordaeron got this decision perfectly.

As for the rest, although I disagree, I think you made the best possible rebuttal so I'll leave those last words to you and the judgement of our exchange to the powers that be.

[Obnoxious]

All I was trying to express there was that WOTLK went live on retail Nov 2008 and was active for 23 months. RDF was introduced 13 months after its release so WOTLK spent more than 50% of it's life on retail without RDF. I think leaving out the RDF shortcut is still a blizzlike, older-school, and hard-core implementation of WOTLK. My personal opinion is that Lordaeron got this decision perfectly.

Fair enough. I was just pointing out that this is then more a case of a coincidence - our decision and what you consider more older-school - than our actual intent in not having RDF. That's made clear by the fact Kaer himself has rebutted the claim that RDF is only disabled until we reach the point in content when it was released in retail.

[MaxBlack1]

Most people who wrote they voted yes - sound like they love to insta-easily kill everyone wihout effort or risk to die. Just easy win, cheater win.

I really liked your initial neutral attitude but you lost yourself in the end.

i can not agree with terms that multiboxing is easy. that i can state right here and right now.
i have tried multiboxing and left this idea bedouse it was too hard for me to manage all character and dont losing any while questing and traveling.

i said what i said becouse all NO-voters have nothing else to say that you actually wrote - oh, my they can one shoot you!

same can do well-cooperated group of 5 people. should we forbid making groups.

give me fair reasons why multiboxing is ill - then i will agree we should ban this.

[osiris123]

i can not agree with terms that multiboxing is easy. that i can state right here and right now.
i have tried multiboxing and left this idea bedouse it was too hard for me to manage all character and dont losing any while questing and traveling.

i said what i said becouse all NO-voters have nothing else to say that you actually wrote - oh, my they can one shoot you!

same can do well-cooperated group of 5 people. should we forbid making groups.

give me fair reasons why multiboxing is ill - then i will agree we should ban this.

You have 30+ pages with reasons why..

[Necroprinces]

i can not agree with terms that multiboxing is easy. that i can state right here and right now.
i have tried multiboxing and left this idea bedouse it was too hard for me to manage all character and dont losing any while questing and traveling.

i said what i said becouse all NO-voters have nothing else to say that you actually wrote - oh, my they can one shoot you!

same can do well-cooperated group of 5 people. should we forbid making groups.

give me fair reasons why multiboxing is ill - then i will agree we should ban this.

yu can multibox on the other realms so what's the problem, are you such a ***** that you cant go with 1 char at the same time? I mean, come on if you want to multibox log on a different realm. If you really want to enjoy the game in a normal way, play lordaeron.

[Peregrine]

yu can multibox on the other realms so what's the problem, are you such a ***** that you cant go with 1 char at the same time? I mean, come on if you want to multibox log on a different realm. If you really want to enjoy the game in a normal way, play lordaeron.

Beacuse someone really want to play on truly x1 while multiboxing,to experience wow in its original rates while multiboxing.Not x1414 rates and ding.Not everyone multiboxes for hey il one shoot you.Despite the general consensus.

[romz]

Considering normally I wouldn't care if there was or not, but considering how it is kind of unfair for people to have say 5-40 characters in the control of 1 player it does take up slots in the queue.

[Stampelle123]

i can not agree with terms that multiboxing is easy. that i can state right here and right now.
i have tried multiboxing and left this idea bedouse it was too hard for me to manage all character and dont losing any while questing and traveling.

i said what i said becouse all NO-voters have nothing else to say that you actually wrote - oh, my they can one shoot you!

same can do well-cooperated group of 5 people. should we forbid making groups.

give me fair reasons why multiboxing is ill - then i will agree we should ban this.

Just scroll the thread and you will find my best reasons.

Maybe it can be complex to learn but I am pretty sure that isn't hard to use at all.
Don't forget that wow isn't a hardcore game, wow is 80% knowledge and 20% skill. I was a Brood War hard core gamer and I can ensure you that In the hardcore game environment (QUake Live, Counter Strike, Starcrarft) if you won't to call someone N**B you can just call him wow player.

You guys don't understand that in front of a screen there is 1ONE person and the END game of wow is made to be balanced: 1ENDgame-person versus 1ENDgame-person.
This is the way Blizzard make all his balancing tests with all the Class and with all the Items.
So, yes. 1Person Multiboxing get easy win against 1Person soloboxing-normal player. Which is just imballanced. Deal with it or go ask blizzard to make balancing tests for Multiboxing, which is just impossible.


http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....s-or-no/page32

[Peregrine]

Funny,why if its so imbalanced and corrupts the game blizzard allows it?Beacue they know in any normal bg,players win,problem being with players ******ed and not skilled in bg its completely different story..havnet seen any mboxer solo hc content raids or even normal for that matter,wy?beacuse its ultra impossible..Havent seen any mboxer reaching r1 in arena or gladiator (happened only few times in wow history and that was tbc era,we are talking 2 multiboxers reaching glad among 11 mil people,jk ruin the game).

[jaided]

you can play wow on a cyclette upside down with the head between the cables and the heat sink in the mouth but the effect we would see on the screen would be the same.

Not only is the picture you're painting in my head amusing, but you're right about the effect on the screen being the same. In fact there's really no change at all with anything except changing mechanism from software to physical. It wouldn't solve the argument but I have been listening to people for years say that all key broadcasting software is botting/automation. This would at least force them to come up with a good argument instead being stuck on a non-argument.

Anyways, I am pretty sure that in the case such a rule where applied, it would not be a automatic third part software detection but it would be players reports based.

I would make no secret of anything if I was to do this. I'd need to take many pictures and videos to proove and document the process. I would accept whatever punishment was decided.

So I think you can save yourself from the nerdage of deal with all those old hardware.

You're warning is too late. I was already stricken with nerdage years ago and I have a attic full of old hardware. :P

[Stampelle123]

Funny,why if its so imbalanced and corrupts the game blizzard allows it?Beacue they know in any normal bg,players win,problem being with players ******ed and not skilled in bg its completely different story..havnet seen any mboxer solo hc content raids or even normal for that matter,wy?beacuse its ultra impossible..Havent seen any mboxer reaching r1 in arena or gladiator (happened only few times in wow history and that was tbc era,we are talking 2 multiboxers reaching glad among 11 mil people,jk ruin the game).

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Man... No offense but the last 2 monkeys represent your factious and partisan way to argue in this thread. How many times we have to repeat the same thing?
In retail wow the Multiboxing phenomenon is a very rare and exotic curiosity due to the related subscription costs. So, Blizzard tolerate it just because this rare thing bring them a decent amount of money. At last it was like this. Now, Blizzard as well is closing the doors to MBer abusers.
Than you talk about HC pve contents when I already did post links that show clear abuse in the open world pvp which happen every week and in the same time I linked the proof that those abusers are clearly planning to act the same way in Lordaeron.
Jesus Christ. did you ever applied some intellectual honesty in your entire life? Instead of insist with this partisanship even at the cost to clutch at straws?
I know you have something to loose but everything have a limit.


http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....s-or-no/page32