Cata update v3

[Agronnak]

who cares about old instances? The only people that wanna PvE are little pubescent children that suck at PvP or pedophiles.

What they should do is fix class spells as well as same faction RBG

who cares about old instances? perhaps people who have nothing to do between each 20-30 minute bg queue? or people that want to xmog? as far as I know, the points store is pure garbage considering you can only earn around 1 point a day and the items are overpriced as ****

[Islingr]

mostly transmog... since new point shop is basically... wotlk yay and nothing before, so ya transmog and just seeing the encounters and farming rare mounts in some places, companions, maybe even some legendaries if they open them...

[Baluhterijum]

You can bite your own tongue bruh, no one finds it fun to kill dragons for more than a year, especially when you got BiS gear. You can't tell me "omg I'm doing 55k DPS I'm so gud bra GG" you couldn't even do that in PvP wether it's arenas or any serious rated BGs unless you are surv hunter, ele sham.

Ok, so by your own reasoning, isn't it tiresome to play PVP for more than one year while claiming: "Ooooh, let me bask in the smell of freshly killed Alliance players... Am I good or what?"

You yourself said you are PVP only. Why sudden interest in PVE? - If you don't have anything concise to say in this part of the forum or the lack of the update for Cataclysm, kindly move your mammaries to the PVP section of the forum and shout at the top of your lungs about being awesome in battlegrounds \ arenas and whatnot.

[Bosnian1]

The only people that wanna PvE are little pubescent children that suck at PvP or pedophiles.

hahahahahhaha

.....but im r1 @ rdf hc :(

I also thought tdot was a girl for some reason....Not 16, but....

[Tdotsavage]

Ok, so by your own reasoning, isn't it tiresome to play PVP for more than one year while claiming: "Ooooh, let me bask in the smell of freshly killed Alliance players... Am I good or what?"

You yourself said you are PVP only. Why sudden interest in PVE? - If you don't have anything concise to say in this part of the forum or the lack of the update for Cataclysm, kindly move your mammaries to the PVP section of the forum and shout at the top of your lungs about being awesome in battlegrounds \ arenas and whatnot.

Why would it be tiresome to play PvP compared to PvE? In PvP most of the time wether it's random bgs or 2s you are going to be fighting different people / guilds and you will have to use different strategies / group encounters to take them out always in PvE let's say dragon soul for example the same phase is going to start at the same time / hp% of boss.

also this thread is about cata updates which can be regardless it being PvP / PvE or bug fixes. If you can not handle a discussion please leave this thread and go to the "introduce yourself" forum

PS: you aren't even 1550 as fully geared unholy DK top kek

[Kilrogg]

Why would it be tiresome to play PvP compared to PvE? In PvP most of the time wether it's random bgs or 2s you are going to be fighting different people / guilds and you will have to use different strategies / group encounters to take them out always in PvE let's say dragon soul for example the same phase is going to start at the same time / hp% of boss.

also this thread is about cata updates which can be regardless it being PvP / PvE or bug fixes. If you can not handle a discussion please leave this thread and go to the "introduce yourself" forum

PS: you aren't even 1550 as fully geared unholy DK top kek

I see you're cool Tdot, since your're acting like the mountain of knowledge in raiding, all raids you've done in this expansion is Dragon Soul with fully donated gear (Not earned by urself from 0) and getting boosted few times by raiding guilds, and then starting to act like a boss after leading few runs in your guild (Prolly with all possible exploits as rogues smokebomb etc.). I wonder what you'd do in BoT HC / FL HC / BWD HC / ToT4W HC with your knowledge and gears that would be max ilvl compared to raid during it's patch...
P.S. Im not drama child as you are so i am not planning to answer to your responds, since it's worthless to talk/argue with mentally ******ed player.

[Baluhterijum]

Why would it be tiresome to play PvP compared to PvE? In PvP most of the time wether it's random bgs or 2s you are going to be fighting different people / guilds and you will have to use different strategies / group encounters to take them out always in PvE let's say dragon soul for example the same phase is going to start at the same time / hp% of boss.

also this thread is about cata updates which can be regardless it being PvP / PvE or bug fixes. If you can not handle a discussion please leave this thread and go to the "introduce yourself" forum

PS: you aren't even 1550 as fully geared unholy DK top kek

Dragon Soul is perhaps the only Raid you've played then. Have you played Bastion of Twilight? Throne of the Four Winds? Blackwing Descent?

Ah, so we are talking about the repetition. Ok, then PVP is repetitive as well, you start out at Warsong Gulch, shall we say and priority is always the same: "Kill the Healer, go for the flag, clear the path to the base whilst protecting the flag carrier, put the flag, rinse and repeat". You see how each point you make can be turned the same way?

Yes, I agree with you, it's for PVE\PVP update. But you came here and started bashing people who play PVE and called us pedophiles, and you wonder why I told you to go to the PVP thread? You aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, are you, buddy?

I can handle the discussion fine but what you are talking about is not discussion at all, merely a mindless banter going nowhere.

[Tdotsavage]

Ah, so we are talking about the repetition. Ok, then PVP is repetitive as well, you start out at Warsong Gulch, shall we say and priority is always the same: "Kill the Healer, go for the flag, clear the path to the base whilst protecting the flag carrier, put the flag, rinse and repeat". You see how each point you make can be turned the same way?

1. Killing the healer isn't always possible especially in rated bgs where they are at the back and you would have to overextend your whole team (considering you run a spell cleave) which isn't always a good thing.

2. Considering we aren't using your logic because you know we would of already wiped at this point, you do realize "clearing a path" isn't the easiest thing in the book to do and facing certain comps can depend on wether it makes it easier or nearly impossible to do so (bringing a Blood dk / feral / Prot war FC can make this huge).

3. Putting the flag is mostly easy, but only if the enemy already dosent have the flag at which a couple things can occur, both teams will turtle their FC, the enemy will send most of their team to kill your FC, stall long enough for your FC to get 8-10 stacks of FC debuff and nuke with 3-4 DPS

4. "Rinse & repeat" different guilds / teams that want to win will always change up their strategy if they are losing resulting in different tactics (obviously in case you can't comprehend) which is far from repetitive.

Now let's compare DS

1. Morchok, run to boss, dps, run back, dps repeat dead

2. Zonozz, dps, bounce ball, stack repeat dead

3. Yor shaj (most RNG) dps, kill purple>green>black globule, repeat dead

4. Hagara dps, run in circle avoid AoE kill 4 shards, dps, make a chain and get the conductors hit, repeat dead

5. Ultrax, dps press button repeat dead

6. WARMASTER, dps , avoid AoE, repeat dead

7. Spine Dps, kill amalgamation at 9 stacks, kill tendon, repeat dead

8. Madness dps arm / wing on 1st platform until it's dead (if you have enough dps). 2nd 3rd 4th platform you switch to corrupted tent, watch out for bolt and GG

Clearly 1 is more repetitive and that is (PvE) DS. Do not come here trying to defend it or be salty because sadly it's just true

[Gentik]

1. Killing the healer isn't always possible especially in rated bgs where they are at the back and you would have to overextend your whole team (considering you run a spell cleave) which isn't always a good thing.

2. Considering we aren't using your logic because you know we would of already wiped at this point, you do realize "clearing a path" isn't the easiest thing in the book to do and facing certain comps can depend on wether it makes it easier or nearly impossible to do so (bringing a Blood dk / feral / Prot war FC can make this huge).

3. Putting the flag is mostly easy, but only if the enemy already dosent have the flag at which a couple things can occur, both teams will turtle their FC, the enemy will send most of their team to kill your FC, stall long enough for your FC to get 8-10 stacks of FC debuff and nuke with 3-4 DPS

4. "Rinse & repeat" different guilds / teams that want to win will always change up their strategy if they are losing resulting in different tactics (obviously in case you can't comprehend) which is far from repetitive.

Now let's compare DS

1. Morchok, run to boss, dps, run back, dps repeat dead

2. Zonozz, dps, bounce ball, stack repeat dead

3. Yor shaj (most RNG) dps, kill purple>green>black globule, repeat dead

4. Hagara dps, run in circle avoid AoE kill 4 shards, dps, make a chain and get the conductors hit, repeat dead

5. Ultrax, dps press button repeat dead

6. WARMASTER, dps , avoid AoE, repeat dead

7. Spine Dps, kill amalgamation at 9 stacks, kill tendon, repeat dead

8. Madness dps arm / wing on 1st platform until it's dead (if you have enough dps). 2nd 3rd 4th platform you switch to corrupted tent, watch out for bolt and GG

Clearly 1 is more repetitive and that is (PvE) DS. Do not come here trying to defend it or be salty because sadly it's just true

It would be more fitting to compare normal DS to random bgs. HC is pretty easy too but without abusing bugs you cant exactly yolo it, even an easy HC raid like DS takes more concentration than rated bgs.

[Pallzdani]

I don't think we should talk about Normal Raids when talking about repetitiveness and skill required compared to PvP. I agree PvP is harder than PvE by a long shot, but it isn't a walk in the park. And it isn't always the same tactics etc, take Nefarian HC (a boss I bet 90% of the people here have never done). You need ot work out if you should stay Mind Controlled for the full duration and get as close to the portal as possible or if you need to break it earlier to get out enough dps fast enough to force the next phase. Also you should try a fully working Ragnaros HC...**** those Meteors >.> That is the opposite of repetitiveness, you have no clue who is getting that meteor once you've hit it away. Sinestra HC with Wrack, if it's not on a Paladin or Mage then that could change your entire strategy on the spot.

[Gentik]

PvP is harder than PvE by a long shot,.

>plays ret
>talks about difficulty
>meme texting

[Pallzdani]

>plays ret
>talks about difficulty
>meme texting

You have a point...I shall leave <:

[Kennnnnny]

1. Killing the healer isn't always possible especially in rated bgs where they are at the back and you would have to overextend your whole team (considering you run a spell cleave) which isn't always a good thing.

2. Considering we aren't using your logic because you know we would of already wiped at this point, you do realize "clearing a path" isn't the easiest thing in the book to do and facing certain comps can depend on wether it makes it easier or nearly impossible to do so (bringing a Blood dk / feral / Prot war FC can make this huge).

3. Putting the flag is mostly easy, but only if the enemy already dosent have the flag at which a couple things can occur, both teams will turtle their FC, the enemy will send most of their team to kill your FC, stall long enough for your FC to get 8-10 stacks of FC debuff and nuke with 3-4 DPS

4. "Rinse & repeat" different guilds / teams that want to win will always change up their strategy if they are losing resulting in different tactics (obviously in case you can't comprehend) which is far from repetitive.

Now let's compare DS

1. Morchok, run to boss, dps, run back, dps repeat dead

2. Zonozz, dps, bounce ball, stack repeat dead

3. Yor shaj (most RNG) dps, kill purple>green>black globule, repeat dead

4. Hagara dps, run in circle avoid AoE kill 4 shards, dps, make a chain and get the conductors hit, repeat dead

5. Ultrax, dps press button repeat dead

6. WARMASTER, dps , avoid AoE, repeat dead

7. Spine Dps, kill amalgamation at 9 stacks, kill tendon, repeat dead

8. Madness dps arm / wing on 1st platform until it's dead (if you have enough dps). 2nd 3rd 4th platform you switch to corrupted tent, watch out for bolt and GG

Clearly 1 is more repetitive and that is (PvE) DS. Do not come here trying to defend it or be salty because sadly it's just true

Will u srsly argue about that? U literally got carried in every raid i did and u didnt know most of the stuff what u need to do as hunter in DS. I still remember u asking Kaspi and me to come horde to teach u about DS HC lol. Dont bash on PVE players because they carried your *** so you can get some stuff for your ally hunter and can finally play a hunter. U joined CTR just to get 2set,kiril and vishanka,and then afterwards u didnt get invites to raids and just were joining my raids and made them complete cancerous. So dear Tdot,how much ever i loved u stop ****tin on forums,kty.

[Overvoltage]

This thread has gone off topic. Can we please stay on topic?
The fact remains that we need the old school PVE for multiple reasons. Can the developers PLEASE give an official/unofficial statement on what is going on? Please don't ignore us. We would appreciate the status update even if no step has been taken.....Just don't keep us in the dark.

Thanks.

[Tdotsavage]

Will u srsly argue about that? U literally got carried in every raid i did and u didnt know most of the stuff what u need to do as hunter in DS. I still remember u asking Kaspi and me to come horde to teach u about DS HC lol. Dont bash on PVE players because they carried your *** so you can get some stuff for your ally hunter and can finally play a hunter. U joined CTR just to get 2set,kiril and vishanka,and then afterwards u didnt get invites to raids and just were joining my raids and made them complete cancerous. So dear Tdot,how much ever i loved u stop ****tin on forums,kty.

So much rage from PvE'ers! I love it. Dude you gemmed strength as hunter and your gonna tell me how to play hunter??? I did join CTR for said gear but that's the point of a PvE guild right? To gear up that's the point after all who cares about killing same boss 5 times a week every week til server gets shut down, talk about repetitive. Also didn't you leave infected with 11 toons because you "loot-whored" and didn't get a certain item, talk about being a team player :D. It's also not that I can't get into any raids but I simply don't care to Progress past normal ESPECIALLY on alliance. I could do DS HC on 3 toons have the gear to do it on all of em but I choose not to, know why? It's boring plain and simple.