1. Que is not a problem, that is the normal thing, did you ever play retail my child?
    Have I played retail wow? not really...

    Here's the list of retail mmorpgs I've played:
    Lineage 2, Archeage, Tera, Rift, Secret world, black desert online, Aion, Blade and soul, skyforge.

    I'm not including any private servers in any game listed above, or games like diablo, path of exile, warframe etc.

    From ALL the above, Archeage 1st week of launch was the only game I had to wait for 2+ hours to join. And go check its population now...
    Trust me I know what I'm talking about! And since you are going against the tide on this being an issue, sorry to say this but you are part of the problem, "my child"...

    What if... But such possibility is simply way too small to consider.

    To those asking why better machines arent bought, anyone knows retail server cap? Because then we'll be able to compare Warmane's machines with Retail. Knowing that Warmane's income is way smaller...
    Do you have any Idea how much a good game server costs? How much Bandwith do you think is needed to support more than 12k players online? You can get one starting at aprox $125 monthly. Do you actually believe they make less than that per month... I just entered a ****ing Wintergrasp and there were 2 multiboxers full geared with 30 characters each.... Do you have ANY IDEA how much money that is? Also since when is botting called multiboxing! they're cheating and GMs are allowing it because MONEY.
    Edited: June 16, 2016

  2. Have I played retail wow? not really...

    Here's the list of retail mmorpgs I've played:
    Lineage 2, Archeage, Tera, Rift, Secret world, black desert online, Aion, Blade and soul, skyforge.

    I'm not including any private servers in any game listed above, or games like diablo, path of exile, warframe etc.

    From ALL the above, Archeage 1st week of launch was the only game I had to wait for 2+ hours to join. And go check its population now...
    Trust me I know what I'm talking about! And since you are going against the tide on this being an issue, sorry to say this but you are part of the problem, "my child"...



    Do you have any Idea how much a good game server costs? How much Bandwith do you think is needed to support more than 12k players online? You can get one starting at aprox $125 monthly. Do you actually believe they make less than that per month... I just entered a ****ing Wintergrasp and there were 2 multiboxers full geared with 30 characters each.... Do you have ANY IDEA how much money that is? Also since when is botting called multiboxing! they're cheating and GMs are allowing it because MONEY.
    You have listed every second rated MMORPG, so please spare me of your "expirience" lets talk back on retail, how it was for us who actually played it. Tarren Mill, Sylvanas, Stormscale every single server had a que of an hour if you're lucky, no we didnt have a chance to pay 10e/$ to skip that because EVERYONE PAID FOR THAT GAME, so please spare me "oh gms want money blabla" you dont want to wait in que, pay 10$ stop being a cheap mother****er.

  3. To all of those who demand without having ever done anything to support the server.
    If your argument is that if everyone donated then donors will get queue as well you are wrong.
    The server max is 12k yah, if that remaining 2k or 3k or w/e the queue is donate warmane will have enough money out of those new donations to actually upgrade the servers and possible accept 14k or 15k on, dont be a part of the problem be a part of the solution.
    And if u dont like it, dont play.

  4. To all of those who demand without having ever done anything to support the server.
    If your argument is that if everyone donated then donors will get queue as well you are wrong.
    The server max is 12k yah, if that remaining 2k or 3k or w/e the queue is donate warmane will have enough money out of those new donations to actually upgrade the servers and possible accept 14k or 15k on, dont be a part of the problem be a part of the solution.
    And if u dont like it, dont play.
    Warmane already stated they have the best possible servers at their host, so this is not true.
    The only thing that can currently be done is improve the code, and that goes slow step by slow step. Money won't change a thing in that.

  5. You have listed every second rated MMORPG, so please spare me of your "expirience" lets talk back on retail, how it was for us who actually played it. Tarren Mill, Sylvanas, Stormscale every single server had a que of an hour if you're lucky, no we didnt have a chance to pay 10e/$ to skip that because EVERYONE PAID FOR THAT GAME, so please spare me "oh gms want money blabla" you dont want to wait in que, pay 10$ stop being a cheap mother****er.
    I'm done with you fanboy. You just called BNS and BDO second rated MMOs. You're either mentally ill, or just blind by choice. I was about to donate yesterday btw, but after seeing someone CHEATING in BG and still being OK because he has donated a huge amount of money, I'm not giving a single cent. They have enough money to fix this, they just don't want to. And since it's ok to ****ing BOT if you have donated alot of money it's ****ed that they aren't fixing this.
    Also are you seriously comparing retail capacity and population to this server?

    Warmane already stated they have the best possible servers at their host, so this is not true.
    The only thing that can currently be done is improve the code, and that goes slow step by slow step. Money won't change a thing in that.
    that's bull****... Keep eating that dumb grass they feed you. "best possible servers" my ***, even if they have the best servers there's no way its limit is 12k.
    Either they don't have the best machine or they've placed an artificial cap on it for profit. I've found server machines for 150 euros p/mo that have a capacity of 20k easy. Don't assume things are true without any research.

  6. that's bull****... Keep eating that dumb grass they feed you. "best possible servers" my ***, even if they have the best servers there's no way its limit is 12k.
    Either they don't have the best machine or they've placed an artificial cap on it for profit. I've found server machines for 150 euros p/mo that have a capacity of 20k easy. Don't assume things are true without any research.
    Then show your detailed research. I'm curious now, I want to see numbers - and no, "I've seen machines that have 20k capacity easily" means nothing, much less proves anything. Show me this stress test data of a World of Warcraft emulation holding 20000 simultaneous players, when even retail doesn't has that (they have multiple interconnected servers). Fail to provide this convincing data, and I'll hold you on spreading misinformative propaganda and being disrespectful towards the Staff.

  7. im fine with donating, 10€ is nothing. The problem is that i brought 6 friends to play with me, most of them didn't play wow at all or they did in crap private servers and left shortly. Right now we all play League of Legends so we kinda split the time between two games, the fact that there is a queue scares the **** out of them and coming from a free game it seems weird for them to pay 10€ to play a "cracked version of the official".

    Mostly they want to test the content and see if its worth paying, something that you can't do if you have to wait in queue for 3 hours.

    2 weeks ago there was queue just at nights, now there is a queue all the time except sleep hours, unplayable on weekends.

    It's difficult to attract new people if they can't test it, however i understand that the server is too popular and precisely what it needs is less people not more.

    Probably its difficult to do what Blizzard did of mixed battlegrounds and instances but definitely 2 servers are needed, ideally if they could work as one but being 2 separate machines.

  8. I saw this coming from a mile away. It was simple math.

    If you have two servers that reached 7k-8k numbers and then you combine them into a server with max 12k pop cap, you're going to get login queues out of the wazoo.

    The fact more people didn't see this coming is kinda sad. lol


  9. 7-8k COMBINED, not on each of them.
    Both of the realms were reaching 7-8k at peak time before the merge, but mostly sat around 4-5k at non peak times.

  10. To anyone sitting on the answer - What is the minimum amount you can donate to get premium, to queue skip? :)

  11. Both of the realms were reaching 7-8k at peak time before the merge, but mostly sat around 4-5k at non peak times.
    No they didn't, 3.5-4k maximum. Stop making stuff up. The old core never even hosted 8k peak.

  12. I'm done with you fanboy. You just called BNS and BDO second rated MMOs. You're either mentally ill, or just blind by choice. I was about to donate yesterday btw, but after seeing someone CHEATING in BG and still being OK because he has donated a huge amount of money, I'm not giving a single cent. They have enough money to fix this, they just don't want to. And since it's ok to ****ing BOT if you have donated alot of money it's ****ed that they aren't fixing this.
    Also are you seriously comparing retail capacity and population to this server?
    Yes they are second rated MMOs. Comparing retail servers back than and now? You are aware that was like 7 years ago and tech wasnt developled as it is now. They had 10k slots, so dont talk **** without doing ur research your own words dear kiddo, grow up, go mow ur dadys lawn for 10$.

  13. Yes they are second rated MMOs. Comparing retail servers back than and now? You are aware that was like 7 years ago and tech wasnt developled as it is now. They had 10k slots, so dont talk **** without doing ur research your own words dear kiddo, grow up, go mow ur dadys lawn for 10$.
    What was 7 years ago, you made no sense... Warmane servers? retail servers then and now?
    If it is the latter, I never compared old vs new. I'm comparing warmane to others NOW.
    Btw about those 2 games I mentioned BNS and BDO, if you are comparing that, (graphics,gameplay,mechanics) you are clearly being narrow minded AKA fanboi. About the name calling, be more mad see if I care. I'm not rich but I'm not dying of hunger either, but I won't give **** to this server since it doesn't appreciate its users, and that seems clear on 2 factors:

    1. Not acknowledging that having to wait 2 hours+ in queue is a problem, and at least humoring us that they will try to fix it ASAP...
    2. Stating that any incomes are for server and staff expenses, but in the meantime not using any of the "multiboxer" money to fix this economically minor issue (compared to what they are spending now ofc.)

    Then show your detailed research. I'm curious now, I want to see numbers - and no, "I've seen machines that have 20k capacity easily" means nothing, much less proves anything. Show me this stress test data of a World of Warcraft emulation holding 20000 simultaneous players, when even retail doesn't has that (they have multiple interconnected servers). Fail to provide this convincing data, and I'll hold you on spreading misinformative propaganda and being disrespectful towards the Staff.
    Is it fair to call you a staff member? If so, shame on you for not acting like one... A real staff member would report people's concerns and problems not challenge them like a juvenile with authority. That being said, even if I don't care enough to answer you. I'm going to google that for you when I get out of work ok? And Like I said before, respect is not demanded it's earned.
    Edited: June 16, 2016

  14. Take your time. You have (at least) one month to find this mythical private Wrath of the Lich King server that holds 20000 simultaneous players and provide us and the "grass eaters" the evidence.

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