WotLK Do people not pvp on Lordaeron?

[harrpaniz1]

1.Nah it ain't laughable, it's simple truth. Also i didn't commence that retar.dedness, i simply fire back at flamers/trolls. Blocked them in the end, because one was an obvious donor who literally said that lordaeron players are slaves and the other had nothing coherent to add.
2.Being better geared than someone in a fuc.king bg is considered bullying by you? Now THAT'S laughable. There's a big difference in someone being 500 gs above you and you for some reason not being able to handle them and a bg packed with fullbis smourne donors. Get real.
3.Back in my day Lordaeron was as blizzlike as can get. The scripting of quests/bugs has gotten better now indeed, but back in the day there was no crossrealm, no soloqueue, no transmog, i don't even remember any custom events like the free EoF bullshiet we had this time. Rates were 1x and the realm pop about 5k. That's as blizzlike as can get imo.
Yeah patches obviously weren't released like that, becasue it would require a new download every patch. You start out with 3.3.5 talents etc, but that's the case in literally every private server ever.
Dunno i go northrend loremaster very nicely, only about 5 quests out of like 700 were buggy... so seems to work pretty freaking well to me.

I do it on Lordaeron, becasue wotlk is my favorite expansion + i like to play in a setting of x1 where i feel that my achievements actually mean something PLUS i can pve whenever i want aswell and have fun with actual players. IC players look like clowns mostly. Who cares about arena anyway... it's all just smourne arms warr donors with hpals anyway. I already played a hpal in retail and had 30-1 win ratios. I don't need to do it again, so i enjoy duels, bgs, world pvp, wintergrasp etc... maybe even casual arena. That's why.

1. We're all laughing.
2. I never said anything about gearscore being an aspect important in bullying someone. You can bully people pretty easily in BG's. Again with the illiteracy; maybe you can get your caretaker to read for you and you'll just need to use your comprehensionskills?
3. You aren't responding to any of my points. The realm was never blizzlike because again, there were broken quests, there were no blizzlike progression and patch updates and absolutely 0 backlogged economy. This is pretty simple to understand and cannot be argued against, the term is litterally "blizzlike". Do you think broken quests, no patches before WOTLK, an infinite time spent IN WOTLK and no built up economy is blizzlike?

When you say "Who cares about arena" I cant help but laugh again. Apparently more people care about arenas than about PVE on Lord, considering the population of BR and IC. Pretty clear to me.

[IcarNS]

I agree with Thorbjorn about everything. Also, I would like to point out that since

The core philosophy of custom additions on our realms is that those who do not want to participate in them can simply turn them off and everything related to it will be absent from the game for those players that do not want it.

The best solution is that by default have cross-realm disabled as a toggle like Mercenary. Mercenary in Lordaeron I think would have sufficed. Cross-realm killed the PvP guilds in Lord because people got easily frustrated, understandably. At the moment, PvP in Lordaeron is end-game content, something hard to get into as it's a challenging server.

[Stepkid]

Anyone else find this funny how he flames and say people just want to play with way worse geared players, then brags about oneshooting people.

Sounds like P R O J E C T I O N.

You have no sense neither in irony nor "P R O J E C T I O N". You can be way well geared with 0 resil and still get one shot, so you don't really have to be low gs to get one shot.

[Stepkid]

At the moment, PvP in Lordaeron is end-game content, something hard to get into as it's a challenging server.

Lordaeron people love hard and challenging content that's why they roll in that server at first place. True hardcore Lordaeron PvP players still play bg and enjoy cross-realm, only losers quit and come to forum to cry about it.

[IcarNS]

Lordaeron people love hard and challenging content that's why they roll in that server at first place. True hardcore Lordaeron PvP players still play bg and enjoy cross-realm, only losers quit and come to forum to cry about it.

Can you stop being toxic? We are trying to discuss something. Don't lower the level of the conversation. Thank you.

[Stepkid]

Can you stop being toxic? We are trying to discuss something. Don't lower the level of the conversation. Thank you.

Nothing is toxic at all in anything I said. Your "this discussion" is toward completely focused on blaming Warmane, no wonder your thought and this conversation has no level whatsoever. I'm at least trying to boost its level, but you won't let me.

Cross-realm didn't come out of the blue. Warmane always deeply analyzes the situation of what's going on, then they implement what is absolutely necessary. In this case, it's cross-realm which is absolutely a fantastic feature. Now in 2020, they introduced cross-realm solo queue, another amazing feature to kick start off the New Year. They are still working on how to improve the situation and the quality of play style, so please for the last and final time stop blaming Warmane again and again for their hard work and for providing players with excellent quality of playtime.

[Skoobydoo]

Heliax and Stepkid have both been blocked... go troll someone else with your shiet rofl. Feels good to not have to read your shiet again ;) Bai!!!

Your posts don't show for me anymore #Feelsgoodman.

Making a thread and then blocking people who disagree with you and on top of that making a post to let them know you block them.... you truly are one of most pathetic people i have seen in this forum. Is that how you deal with your IRL problems as well, running away from them?

I agree with Thorbjorn about everything. Also, I would like to point out that since



The best solution is that by default have cross-realm disabled as a toggle like Mercenary. Mercenary in Lordaeron I think would have sufficed. Cross-realm killed the PvP guilds in Lord because people got easily frustrated, understandably. At the moment, PvP in Lordaeron is end-game content, something hard to get into as it's a challenging server.

Is cross-realm custom addition tho, since it existed on retail since Vanilla? And you keep talking about how PVP guilds die/guit after the cross-realm was added to the game, but Lordearon arena was already dead before. And also there is plenty of BIS geared players on Lordearon, why are they so unwilling to play with other geared people from other realms? It really looks like they just wanna kill low geared players and not play against others with same gear.

Here is a question, lets see if you can answer. What guild activities does this PVP guilds on Lordearon use to have that Cross-realm ruined for them and they had to die?

[IcarNS]

Is cross-realm custom addition tho, since it existed on retail since Vanilla? And you keep talking about how PVP guilds die/guit after the cross-realm was added to the game, but Lordearon arena was already dead before. And also there is plenty of BIS geared players on Lordearon, why are they so unwilling to play with other geared people from other realms? It really looks like they just wanna kill low geared players and not play against others with same gear.

Here is a question, lets see if you can answer. What guild activities does this PVP guilds on Lordearon use to have that Cross-realm ruined for them and they had to die?

There aren't plenty of BiS characters in Lordaeron. I have never seen one, they always miss some item. But pretty close, yeah, the ones in those couple guilds in Lordaeron with LoD on farm (maybe 2?). Nothing compared to the active population of the server. They represent a very low %. So yeah, saying there are plenty of BiS people in Lordaeron is not an argument against making cross-realm optional, which is what the Warmane staff think is the core of their philosophy.
I agree arenas were not much contested in high ratings in Lordaeron. This is because PvP there has always been casual, except for some people that reeeally tryhard, but again, we are generalising - we cannot talk about a minority. So, I'd agree on xrealm arenas. Again, best solution is an optional toggle.
Pretty sure "BiS" guys in Lordaeron are ok with cross-realm, at least in their personal experience. But they can be frustrated too, because their hard earned and exclusive gear means nothing when entering in BGs. And that's the core of a hardcore realm: to be extremely rewarding to achieve some hard milestone, which is completely obliterated with xrealm in the PvP department. You can take this as an answer to your unintelligeble question.

[Skoobydoo]

. And that's the core of a hardcore realm: to be extremely rewarding to achieve some hard milestone, which is completely obliterated with xrealm in the PvP department. You can take this as an answer to your unintelligeble question.

Well first of it does not feel rewarding not because of the cross-realm, but because of gear brackets. Icecrown players do feel the same as well. Before gearscore brackets usually there is 1-3 really good geared players per team and most players use to be around 5k gs. A lot of times there was tons of 4.x gs players as well, if you was above 6k usually you was able to solo carry the game. This cannot happen anymore in upper bracket even if you are BIS geared, which ruin most of the fun of RBGs.

My question seem unintelligeble because you lack the ability to be objective or think from diffrent point of view. I ask about guild activities that can be destroyed by cross-realm. PVP events, WPVP are not effected. BG in general are non effected because pvp guild will be in premade, which should be able dominate non premades even if they are not BIS geared. As for Arena been in guild have absolutely nothing to do with arenas. So i just fail to see how exactly cross-realm killed this PVP guilds on Lordearon.

There aren't plenty of BiS characters in Lordaeron. I have never seen one, they always miss some item. But pretty close, yeah, the ones in those couple guilds in Lordaeron with LoD on farm (maybe 2?). Nothing compared to the active population of the server. They represent a very low %.

Which is true for Icecrown and Blackrock as well. There is huge number of BIS geared chars , but they are absolutely small % from total population. Its really frustrating when people like you speak like literally everyone on Icecrown and Blackrock is BIS geared, when is reality vast vast majority of players you see around is 5-5.5k gs.

So yeah, saying there are plenty of BiS people in Lordaeron is not an argument against making cross-realm optional, which is what the Warmane staff think is the core of their philosophy.

I already adress that point, but i guess you didnt read it. I dont think cross-realm is a custom feature because it existed in WOW since Vanilla.

I agree arenas were not much contested in high ratings in Lordaeron. This is because PvP there has always been casual, except for some people that reeeally tryhard, but again, we are generalising - we cannot talk about a minority. So, I'd agree on xrealm arenas. Again, best solution is an optional toggle.

Yes this is true, Lordearon players play PVP very casual and serious PVP players was very few. The fact that they was such a minority is the reason why PVP on lordearon was pretty much dead. I never mention once your idea about toggle in/out of cross-realm, so if blow my mind that you make saying i am arguing against it.

The reality is Icecrown players do not care if Lordearon is in cross-realm or not with us. They can remove you tomorrow from cross-realm, or give you option to togle on/of it will be all the same to us. If you wanna argue to remove or make cross-realm optional, you can use the argument that Lordearon population have increased by a lot in past year and its ready to support their own healthy PvP scene . But please stop with this nonsence that Lordearon in the past had good PVP, and active PVP guilds and somehow cross-realm killed all of this. Its not true and honetly no one cares about it.

We already had this discussion multiple times in the forum with mostly same people, so i dont think there is anything new that can be said here, so i am done here.

[Marcuuus]

Anyone else find this funny how he flames and say people just want to play with way worse geared players, then brags about oneshooting people.

Sounds like P R O J E C T I O N.

I don't even read the parts from him that you quote, because i blocked him :) He's just some troll... Not to be taken seriously.

[Marcuuus]

1. We're all laughing.
2. I never said anything about gearscore being an aspect important in bullying someone. You can bully people pretty easily in BG's. Again with the illiteracy; maybe you can get your caretaker to read for you and you'll just need to use your comprehensionskills?
3. You aren't responding to any of my points. The realm was never blizzlike because again, there were broken quests, there were no blizzlike progression and patch updates and absolutely 0 backlogged economy. This is pretty simple to understand and cannot be argued against, the term is litterally "blizzlike". Do you think broken quests, no patches before WOTLK, an infinite time spent IN WOTLK and no built up economy is blizzlike?

When you say "Who cares about arena" I cant help but laugh again. Apparently more people care about arenas than about PVE on Lord, considering the population of BR and IC. Pretty clear to me.

1.No you ain't. Also who is "WE"? You mean the 1 flamer, who's been identified by multiple people in this post as an obvious troll of the forums?
2.Yeah you did and no you can't. You can't keep chasing the same person in a bg consistantly, also who the fu.ck does that? Like what stretch of the imagination bs are you trying to pull here, to rationalize your erroneous bs?
3.Illiteracy? Go back and re-read your own posts bro. You're the one who needs to learn to read... clown.
4.Repsond? I responded very well to your "points". You're the one that didn't respond to anything that i said.
What you're sayign about the realm not being blizzlike makes no fuc.king sense, becasue IT WAS AS BLIZZLIKE as you can expect from a private server. You're bringing some meaningless examples of it not being blizzlike. A bugged quest here or there is not comparable with the CUSTOM features that i am talking about, which are ALSO INTENTIONAL. Even retail ahd bugged quests.

Bugged quests, more time spent in the xpac and zero starting economy IS MORE BLIZZLIKE THAN -->
bugged quests, more time spent in the xpac and zero starting economy PLUUUUS soloqueue, custom events, transmogrification and gear brackets.

Like what part of that do you not understand?

What is that last line even supposed to mean? I think you need to improve your skills in getting a point across. Then again now that i've blocked you're account, after getting in the last word (#feelsgoodman) i won't have to read your clownish posts anymore anyway, so who cares ;)

[Marcuuus]

Making a thread and then blocking people who disagree with you and on top of that making a post to let them know you block them.... you truly are one of most pathetic people i have seen in this forum. Is that how you deal with your IRL problems as well, running away from them?



Is cross-realm custom addition tho, since it existed on retail since Vanilla? And you keep talking about how PVP guilds die/guit after the cross-realm was added to the game, but Lordearon arena was already dead before. And also there is plenty of BIS geared players on Lordearon, why are they so unwilling to play with other geared people from other realms? It really looks like they just wanna kill low geared players and not play against others with same gear.

Here is a question, lets see if you can answer. What guild activities does this PVP guilds on Lordearon use to have that Cross-realm ruined for them and they had to die?

Please stop being silly bro. I made a proper thread asking some questions and the first thing i got was some guy literally antagonizing me and shilling for Warmane and saying LITERALLY that Lordaeron players must obey what Icecrown players want. Like did you even fuc.king read what was said? Multiple other people have identified that Stepkid as a "toxic" known forum troll aswell and you want me to continue wasting my time on communicating with him? Get the **** outta here with your ad hominem insult lol. Ofcourse i'm going to LET the troll know's hes blocked. You're the one's who's pathetic :D

Aaaand you're blocked too. Some keyboard warrior with a cartoon avatar talking about IRL.... /lmao. I don't waste my time on mongoloids who are either willing trolls/flamers or who fail to understand wtf the topic is, don't read through anything and white knight for literal known forum trolls/flamer. Gtfo ;)

[Heliox]

Talking about ad hominem insults while calling others trolls, haters, mongloids and juding them by avatars they've got. This dude is ****ing mad rofl. Delusional hypocrite.

[harrpaniz1]

1.No you ain't. Also who is "WE"? You mean the 1 flamer, who's been identified by multiple people in this post as an obvious troll of the forums?
2.Yeah you did and no you can't. You can't keep chasing the same person in a bg consistantly, also who the fu.ck does that? Like what stretch of the imagination bs are you trying to pull here, to rationalize your erroneous bs?
3.Illiteracy? Go back and re-read your own posts bro. You're the one who needs to learn to read... clown.
4.Repsond? I responded very well to your "points". You're the one that didn't respond to anything that i said.
What you're sayign about the realm not being blizzlike makes no fuc.king sense, becasue IT WAS AS BLIZZLIKE as you can expect from a private server. You're bringing some meaningless examples of it not being blizzlike. A bugged quest here or there is not comparable with the CUSTOM features that i am talking about, which are ALSO INTENTIONAL. Even retail ahd bugged quests.

Bugged quests, more time spent in the xpac and zero starting economy IS MORE BLIZZLIKE THAN -->
bugged quests, more time spent in the xpac and zero starting economy PLUUUUS soloqueue, custom events, transmogrification and gear brackets.

Like what part of that do you not understand?

What is that last line even supposed to mean? I think you need to improve your skills in getting a point across. Then again now that i've blocked you're account, after getting in the last word (#feelsgoodman) i won't have to read your clownish posts anymore anyway, so who cares ;)

1. We as in the people reading this thread. Laughing, all of us, relentlessly.
2. I never said you had to chase someone down over and over, but sniping someone in que is pretty easy. Nice try on that strawman lol.
3. Yes, illiteracy. You havent been able to adequately read any of the posts aimed at you in this entire thread.
4. You haven't responded to anything. Now you're backpeddaling because it's pretty obvious that you're upset over nothing. Nobody is patting your back like you expected so you even have to backpeddal on the things like the server being blizzlike. Now it's only "as blizzlike as you can expect". In that case, merged BG's and solo q is as blizzlike as you can expect.

Nobody cares if you get the first or last word, you're an upset Lordaeron player that everyone is laughing at, not with.

[Stepkid]

He basically blocks others and calls them all the nasty things he could whoever disagrees with him. Finally, he is banned for good. Now we can have a proper discussion without that delusional hypocrite's input, with the irony being he created this topic.