Blackrock TBC announcement

[Malaco]

Will Blackrock get a store with a similar model as Onyxia?

Yes, it will mirror Onyxia

What about reputation items? (Karazhan/Violet Hold rings for example)

We will find a way to introduce this

Will Badge of Justice items be included in quest rewards or will they be distributed in a different form such as honor + mark combination or arena points?

There will be badge vendors and you can obtain the badges from the gear crates from heroics

Maybe my comment was too agresive I was under stress when wrote it.
If random drops are a thing we have the risk of not getting the item ever. Thats bad for pvp and blackrock players arent used to that. Thats why I suggest to make items avaliable for some kind of token or emblem who you can farm too. But since not getting the trinket you need for 2 months while others get it the first week its gonna happen would be nice to have some mechanic for this, Is this pve drop gear going to be free? (no arena point req) then can be decently fait I guess. I get it you dont want to bother ony players so do waht you consider better.

Yeah the gear crates wont cost anything. Only require objectives to be completed.

[verksm]

Yes, it will mirror Onyxia


We will find a way to introduce this


There will be badge vendors and you can obtain the badges from the gear crates from heroics



Yeah the gear crates wont cost anything. Only require objectives to be completed.

Perfect, thank you!

[gfdsqaz]

what about blacksmithing? deepthunder is a big deal for warriors. this weapon is fairly easy to get (along heroics farm), i really hope pvp players wont be forced to do pve on onyxia just for the sake of getting it or might just avoid playing warrior early seasons anyway if its not obtainable

[gfdsqaz]

sorry, forgot to add
skull of impeding doom obtainable as well? (classic quest reward item, easy to get)
also suggestion for soloq=>thats among most popular brackets, would be cool if warmane admins would incentivize people to play it as well, perhaps add titles like supreme and gladiator titles just like you did during FM seasonals on both onyxia and blackrock, perhaps some daily arena win reward quests like 5 wins for 25ap

[pootang6969]

Any idea when we'll be getting the PTR?

[verksm]

sorry, forgot to add
skull of impeding doom obtainable as well? (classic quest reward item, easy to get)
also suggestion for soloq=>thats among most popular brackets, would be cool if warmane admins would incentivize people to play it as well, perhaps add titles like supreme and gladiator titles just like you did during FM seasonals on both onyxia and blackrock, perhaps some daily arena win reward quests like 5 wins for 25ap

Please no Solo q, incredibly bad bracket with very low quality gameplay, it is just accessible and a time sink during offhours but should not be in a game like TBC arena or if it is added to the game, just for fun without any title or mount rewards.
Also needs restrictions for comps such as double heal being viable in TBC for a lot of comps etc, it is just a mess.

Additionally Solo queue is pretty likely to harm other brackets, especially regular 3vs3 on servers that are not giga populated pvp wise. On Blackrock outside of the Sunday 3vs3 hour the regular 3vs3 bracket is basically dead. But yeah that is just my opinion and experience.

[gabriel243]

what about blacksmithing? deepthunder is a big deal for warriors. this weapon is fairly easy to get (along heroics farm), i really hope pvp players wont be forced to do pve on onyxia just for the sake of getting it or might just avoid playing warrior early seasons anyway if its not obtainable

yeah this is very important along with other prof items rogue stealth trinket etc.

[Brutone]

what about blacksmithing? deepthunder is a big deal for warriors. this weapon is fairly easy to get (along heroics farm), i really hope pvp players wont be forced to do pve on onyxia just for the sake of getting it or might just avoid playing warrior early seasons anyway if its not obtainable

On a PvE server you just have to grind materials to get the mace. It's time consuming but ppl don't have to do any difficult content to get that weapon.
So I think the weapon should cost a big chunk of Honor on Blackrock but shouldn't require any arena rating. A long honor grind would be the equivalent to the material grind on Onyxia.

[trrqwe]

On a PvE server you just have to grind materials to get the mace. It's time consuming but ppl don't have to do any difficult content to get that weapon.
So I think the weapon should cost a big chunk of Honor on Blackrock but shouldn't require any arena rating. A long honor grind would be the equivalent to the material grind on Onyxia.

sure, i just pointed about that weapon for devs. some honor or arena points is fine as long as they are aware of it. since u dont even need to raid it, honor would be fair, but its up to them, i just brought that:
=>bs mace/weapons
=>engi goggles, belt
=>jc trinket on use
=>skull of impending doom
just to reitirate

[verksm]

On a PvE server you just have to grind materials to get the mace. It's time consuming but ppl don't have to do any difficult content to get that weapon.
So I think the weapon should cost a big chunk of Honor on Blackrock but shouldn't require any arena rating. A long honor grind would be the equivalent to the material grind on Onyxia.

Well it is not as easy as you make it sound here, since it requires 8 Primal Nether which are not tradeable you would have to reserve the nether while organizing 8 heroic dungeons yourself, or if you would go for random heroics it will be a way more tedious task to get 8 nethers.
Considering this and the fact that we get heroic gear crates one possibility would be to include any amount of primal nethers that is appropriate for Warmane staff to mirror the heroic dungeon grind in some way.
Or since it is the best in slot S1 pvp weapon for many it could also be sold at the price of a regular S1 2handed pvp weapon for arena points.

The other materials could obviously be sold for honor if it was obtaining via crafting.

[trrqwe]

Well it is not as easy as you make it sound here, since it requires 8 Primal Nether which are not tradeable you would have to reserve the nether while organizing 8 heroic dungeons yourself, or if you would go for random heroics it will be a way more tedious task to get 8 nethers.
Considering this and the fact that we get heroic gear crates one possibility would be to include any amount of primal nethers that is appropriate for Warmane staff to mirror the heroic dungeon grind in some way.
Or since it is the best in slot S1 pvp weapon for many it could also be sold at the price of a regular S1 2handed pvp weapon for arena points.

The other materials could obviously be sold for honor if it was obtaining via crafting.

if u are new here, just reminding that pve realm players barely play pvp/at the top-high end arena ratings, all past seasonal ladders consisted of 95-99% of blackrock players, just hurting pvp players just for the sake of just being nasty doesnt make any sense
primal nether will be easily obtainable during regular dungeon grind as u wish to prepare for pve race/get preraid bis

[PorkBacon]

primal nether will be easily obtainable during regular dungeon grind

5-10% droprate is not "easily" obtained bro. gtfo
as for heroics, those can only be cleared once per day and still you have to outroll 4 other people when it drops.

[verksm]

5-10% droprate is not "easily" obtained bro. gtfo
as for heroics, those can only be cleared once per day and still you have to outroll 4 other people when it drops.

Win the roll vs 4 others 8 times unless as previous stated you form the group yourself and reserve it. Doing this as a non protection warrior is going to be almost impossible if you do not bring a lot of friends to help out.
Very impressive ladder analysis too! And yes, I will most likely only play on Blackrock myself.

[trrqwe]

5-10% droprate is not "easily" obtained bro. gtfo
as for heroics, those can only be cleared once per day and still you have to outroll 4 other people when it drops.

there are like 10 heroics or even more, last boss has 100% drop rate, in tbc classic it took me 2 days to get enough primals, why u barking when u are clueless i dont get it

[Brutone]

Well it is not as easy as you make it sound here, since it requires 8 Primal Nether which are not tradeable you would have to reserve the nether while organizing 8 heroic dungeons yourself, or if you would go for random heroics it will be a way more tedious task to get 8 nethers.

But in the end you don't have to do any challenging content to get primal nether. You just have to clear hc dungeons. It's time consuming but it doesn't require a high skill level from the player side.

So acquiring the mace on Blackrock should also be a time consuming grind but there should be no rating requirements for that mace. It would be unfair to put like a 2k rating requirement on it while players on Onyxia don't need any skill to get it.