1. You might want to look up the definition of "rhetorical question". Like I said already, reading comprehension failure on your part, do try to keep up.
    You might want to look at the key word in that piece in quotation marks. Here I'll let you in on the answer it is question! Oh wow who would have known!

  2. You might want to look at the key word in that piece in quotation marks. Here I'll let you in on the answer it is question! Oh wow who would have known!
    Maybe we would come to a better understanding if we spoke in your native language instead? I can just use google translator, it will do a better job of comprehending written text than you're managing.

  3. Maybe we would come to a better understanding if we spoke in your native language instead? I can just use google translator, it will do a better job of comprehending written text than you're managing.
    Or you just have a reading problem, cause the words I am using is ironically from the English Dictionary. Or are you just from a foreign country that can't read English?

  4. Why not just adjust the group loot rules to actually make sense instead of banning people for the failings of the system itself? If you're gonna ban enhancement shamans for needing on two handed weapons, just remove their ability to need on those items in the first place.

  5. Or you just have a reading problem, cause the words I am using is ironically from the English Dictionary. Or are you just from a foreign country that can't read English?
    No mate the problem is you having an argument with your imagination for the last 3 pages because you don't have a grasp on the English language and you don't read things before you reply to them. So while you're having an argument with your imagination you're dragging me along with it. The fact that you think I'm asking you a question because you have no concept of comprehending a blatent rhetorical question, avoiding the key topic and turning everything into an argument of semantics while patting yourself on the back, blissfully ignorant to your own failings like a model example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

    You're clearly not a native English speaker and that's fine, but you mis-interpreting and filtering everything you read is causing you to literally not at any point fully comprehend what is written, and thus rarely even replying to what the other posters are actually saying in plain text.

  6. No mate the problem is you having an argument with your imagination for the last 3 pages because you don't have a grasp on the English language and you don't read things before you reply to them. So while you're having an argument with your imagination you're dragging me along with it. The fact that you think I'm asking you a question because you have no concept of comprehending a blatent rhetorical question, avoiding the key topic and turning everything into an argument of semantics while patting yourself on the back, blissfully ignorant to your own failings like a model example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

    You're clearly not a native English speaker and that's fine, but you mis-interpreting and filtering everything you read is causing you to literally not at any point fully comprehend what is written, and thus rarely even replying to what the other posters are actually saying in plain text.
    Not my fault you simply refuse an argument only because you don't like it.

  7. Not my fault you simply refuse an argument only because you don't like it.
    A 1hander is not a Fury Warrior weapon at lvl80 in WOTLK, nor is a 2hander an Enhancement Shaman weapon.. That's the only argument that matters here, and your only defense towards this has no grounding in reality, as Mercy put it earlier.

    Do you think should mean such a person should be able to need roll on them over someone else like a Frost DK or Rogue? If you say yes, then I think you should be aware that's not how raid looting works 99% of the time.
    You see this point of view is grounded in reality, your point of view does away with reality as it's basis.

  8. I got banned for rolling need for my offspec dps when I was healing in the dungeon. Is it bannable? Last time I reported one guy I was told by a gm that rolling for offspec is not bannable... so it or not?

  9. A 1hander is not a Fury Warrior weapon at lvl80 in WOTLK, nor is a 2hander an Enhancement Shaman weapon.. That's the only argument that matters here, and your only defense towards this has no grounding in reality, as Mercy put it earlier.



    You see this point of view is grounded in reality, your point of view does away with reality as it's basis.
    You obviously didn't read the Original Post.

  10. You obviously didn't read the Original Post.
    Keep digging, you're convincing.

  11. Keep digging, you're convincing.
    Not my fault you're making up arguments.

  12. New to the server, and am now paranoid my mouse will glitch for a second and accidentally end up needing on something I didn't mean to, getting my account banned.

  13. Well, this has largely degraded into a dick-slapping contest between those other two.

    I've still not seen an answer on whether loot rules were established in the initial scenario, and therefore can't make an informed judgement on whether the hypothetical 2h-desiring shamans were in the wrong. Perhaps there are language barriers, as my earlier post contained am english mix of sarcasm and sincerity.

    It is a sincere suggestion that if "the community" believes that need rolling on some particular usable item by a character violates some core rules of the game, enough so that it should be a BANNABLE OFFENSE, then the problem may with the system, and that game developers should look at options to correct even the possibility of mistake - i.e. disable shaman ability to wield 2h weapons, thereby making it clear that shamans should not be rolling on 2h weapons.

    If there is a fundamental reason on why shamans are capable of wielding 2h weapons, then it should not be a blanket bannable offense to roll on those items (later versions of retail corrected this so that classes could not click the Need button on items they could not equip).

    Bans should likely be reserved for the breaking of RULES.

    I would posit that a shaman rolling on a 2h weapon is his or her own business, regardless of how low of quality performance it might be to him/her, as it is possible to equip and use a 2h weapon as a shaman. I would consider this niche gear setup to be an offspec (presuming the shaman were currently enhancement using dual 1h weapons, this would be a departure from the spec they brought to the party originally). Barring any loot rulings stated that offspec could not be rolled upon, then it would default to common etiquette that MS>OS. I personally feel that breaking etiquette should not be a bannable offense; breaking rules should be reviewed for potential banning.

    Edit: I went back and made sure I wasn't crazy - the relevant rule as stated in the Ninja section of reporting players post states
    Originally Posted by HeadGM
    What qualifies as raid ninja?
    Originally Posted by HeadGM
    - Player need rolling (group loot) on items which he cannot even use.
    In this case, shaman can even use 2h weapons.
    Edited: November 10, 2017

  14. Tbh i agree.

    If class is possible of using weapon it shoudnt be subject to ban(even retail would never ban you for this but) but i guess lately some heavy inforced rules were made.Also if its on group loot you shoudnt receive ban at all unless you roll on something you literally cant use or your class cant use it ,i.e warriors rolling on spell power necks or paladins rolling on 1h daggers or rogues rolling on 2h axes.

  15. In this case, shaman can even use 2h weapons.
    One could make that argument for caster staves for Hunters too. That doesn't mean it applies.

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