1. TBC is what destroyed WOW. I started playing in 2005 and when TBC arrived, almost all the biggest guilds in the world started crumbling or disbanded immediately. This happened to my guild on Crushridge (we were 2nd guild in that server).
    The reason was: the green items you gained just doing pathetic quests in Hellfire Peninsula were better than T1 or even T2 items. People that raided hardcore content (Ch'tun was INSANE at the time, not to mention 4 Riders in Naxxramas) was so pissed of that just quit.
    Releasing TBC on Lordaeron you just took again the wrong route. The same route that has doomed retail wow.
    The greatest raids in this game were in vanilla: BWL, Ahn Qi Raji and Naxxramas, all 40 men, were the real wow experience.
    The only great raid in TBC was Kharazan and, again, when you'll release WOTLK on Lordaeron, Kharazan will be irrelevant too.

    Of course I understand all your efforts until now have been towards making wotlk as good as possible, so I can understand your actions.
    I still miss the real old "vanilla" wow, that had Naxxramas 40 as the final and greatest instance ever done.
    tbc was the most competitive and hardest so far, besides, i still have my lvl 60 pvp gear on and i still couldnt switch it cus they are still better, its even better then the gear u get from honored rep. vanilla was just a piece of cake, raiding wise. things like BT, SWP, ulduar, icc, FL were a lot harder

  2. Are they gonna release wotlk raids one by one or all at once?
    Tier by tier so we start with Naxx, OS and EoE :)

  3. TBC is what destroyed WOW. I started playing in 2005 and when TBC arrived, almost all the biggest guilds in the world started crumbling or disbanded immediately. This happened to my guild on Crushridge (we were 2nd guild in that server).
    The reason was: the green items you gained just doing pathetic quests in Hellfire Peninsula were better than T1 or even T2 items. People that raided hardcore content (Ch'tun was INSANE at the time, not to mention 4 Riders in Naxxramas) was so pissed of that just quit.
    Releasing TBC on Lordaeron you just took again the wrong route. The same route that has doomed retail wow.
    The greatest raids in this game were in vanilla: BWL, Ahn Qi Raji and Naxxramas, all 40 men, were the real wow experience.
    The only great raid in TBC was Kharazan and, again, when you'll release WOTLK on Lordaeron, Kharazan will be irrelevant too.

    Of course I understand all your efforts until now have been towards making wotlk as good as possible, so I can understand your actions.
    I still miss the real old "vanilla" wow, that had Naxxramas 40 as the final and greatest instance ever done.
    This is dumb as ****. I dont change my t2/t2.5 gear to the 68+ blue gear from normal and heroics

    Ands if you wanna true vanilla you are at wrong server. This is progression realm which one end on woltk.

  4. They should prolong it as long as its neccessary to have a COMPLETELY fixed naxx on wotlk release, if they release the expansion and the first raid is bugged, the whole point of this server is null.
    I fully agree.

  5. well lets make it a tbc server *irony*
    pve is broken..pvp same ****,better reduce the tbc time because wotlk will be pretty long to lvl,count that no one will have cold weather flying.
    there are already tons of lvl 70 just sitting on Orgrimar and doing nothing,and lets face it,95% of ppl are here for Wotlk.

  6. Personally and behalf of alot of friends i hope that wotlk release gets delayed alot!
    I have played wotlk since it was retail and i would love to play "wotlk-tbc" for a very long time :)

  7. No.

    Why do you people insist on extending unbalanced joke content? PVP is unbalanced as ****, raids/dungeons are piss easy( if scripted) with wotlk skills/talents/glyphs.
    Virtually everyone is here for wotlk, the only reasonable way tbc gets extended is if wotlk content is bugged beyond playable.

  8. TBC is what destroyed WOW. I started playing in 2005 and when TBC arrived, almost all the biggest guilds in the world started crumbling or disbanded immediately. This happened to my guild on Crushridge (we were 2nd guild in that server).
    The reason was: the green items you gained just doing pathetic quests in Hellfire Peninsula were better than T1 or even T2 items. People that raided hardcore content (Ch'tun was INSANE at the time, not to mention 4 Riders in Naxxramas) was so pissed of that just quit.
    Releasing TBC on Lordaeron you just took again the wrong route. The same route that has doomed retail wow.
    The greatest raids in this game were in vanilla: BWL, Ahn Qi Raji and Naxxramas, all 40 men, were the real wow experience.
    The only great raid in TBC was Kharazan and, again, when you'll release WOTLK on Lordaeron, Kharazan will be irrelevant too.

    Of course I understand all your efforts until now have been towards making wotlk as good as possible, so I can understand your actions.
    I still miss the real old "vanilla" wow, that had Naxxramas 40 as the final and greatest instance ever done.
    Some perspective is needed... Greens from HFP replaced T1 (maybe t2) gear because the early vanilla epics were complete garbage. The only classes that had some kind of decent gear were the pure dps classes - at least from an itemisation point of view. T3 gear for hybrids was all about healing, which is obviously horrendous for questing. The gear in TBC (along with the talent changes) gave all specs a degree of viability, compared to vanilla where EVERY hybrid was a healer or a buffbot at best.

    I played a paladin back then, and I was super thankful to finally get some gear I could actually quest in without taking at least twice as long as anyone else. I did, however, keep my Naxx and AQ40 gear to heal in and even did my first few Kara runs in mostly that gear. Our rogues and hunters only replaced their weapons and trinkets before starting on Kara. In short, I call BS on you. Greens didn't replace your primary gear (if you were in AQ or better gear), but it did give you more options.

  9. Personally I'm heavily against the extension of TBC. But since there is absolutely zero communication between the devs and players regarding release dates I don't even know if it's closer to coming out early december, january or even february.

  10. I remember long time ago when i played a tbc server, it was rly cool, in fact i start wow playing tbc, everything was new, the pve was amaizing, even pvp was good. With wotlk i realize that i like pvp to much and pve doesnt matter much for me. Well i am not the only one who thinks that, and i must say that the lack of pvp (because low honor you gain for bg, no cta, etc) made me rly sad. I cant w8 for this tbc content to be over and to start with wotlk.

    Not many will spend time in tbc content to raise exalted and make imba gear when in few weeks the wotlk will come, so what pve is made is made for fun, but after 1-2 runs u get to much bored.

    Even if pvp is unbalanced for now (because wotlk engine) i still like it and i hope that staff will release cta and others bonus honor to make ppls play bgs or meanwhile til wotlk comes many players will go play fallout 4, go watch a movie or whatever they will do.

  11. I vote yes.

    If only because there are no viable TBC servers out there (I enjoy WOTLK, but I really enjoy TBC, too) so this would be the only stop-gap I'd have to enjoy some TBC nostalgia.

    It is also a seriously great expansion, on par with Northrend.

  12. Personally I'm heavily against the extension of TBC. But since there is absolutely zero communication between the devs and players regarding release dates I don't even know if it's closer to coming out early december, january or even february.
    True but it's their server and they can do whatever the f uck they want with it.

  13. True but it's their server and they can do whatever the f uck they want with it.
    So are the blizzard servers blizzard's, facebook facebook's, youtube youtube's. Doesn't mean we can't say anything about anything.

  14. Everything is a faceroll in pve with wotlk talents and raids dont even work properly. No one pvps because of the ****ty honor rates. Still mining nodes respawn time are really really bad. I dont understand why you would want to stay on this patch.

  15. Still no eta change, so we can all asume they will open it on time.

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