Lordaeron to Normal

[Kikazki]

In the end of the day, the single difference between Normal and PvP in essence is one: choice.

And that choice is only given to the PvErs so that they can jump on unsuspecting PvPers at 10% hp.

[urchboffy]

isnt that what pvpers love so much? :P
i mean, wouldent that make it even more hardcore for the pvpers?

[Skoobydoo]

isnt that what pvpers love so much? :P
i mean, wouldent that make it even more hardcore for the pvpers?

not really because when you res yourself and try to kill the guy who gank you...he turn PVP flag off.

[Obnoxious]

And that choice is only given to the PvErs so that they can jump on unsuspecting PvPers at 10% hp.

That's a perfect example of PvPer mentality. You believe that because it's something you would do, people who don't care/want anything to do with PvP would jump at the opportunity to gank someone "just because, for ****s and giggles." The problem in your "logic" is that action would make them PvPers, not PvErs.

[Kikazki]

That's a perfect example of PvPer mentality. You believe that because it's something you would do, people who don't care/want anything to do with PvP would jump at the opportunity to gank someone "just because, for ****s and giggles." The problem in your "logic" is that action would make them PvPers, not PvErs.

Having most recently played on a normal server (that failed miserably for exactly that reason), this was my experience.

[Obnoxious]

Having most recently played on a normal server (that failed miserably for exactly that reason), this was my experience.

That's because, as incredibly hard it seems to be for people to get it, a Normal server still has PvPers.

[Kikazki]

That's because, as incredibly hard it seems to be for people to get it, a Normal server still has PvPers.

Unflagged people aren't PvPers.

[urchboffy]

iirc pvp flag has 5 min cd, if you attack someone, you wont be able to disable it for some time

not really because when you res yourself and try to kill the guy who gank you...he turn PVP flag off.

[Plush]

iirc pvp flag has 5 min cd, if you attack someone, you wont be able to disable it for some time

You recall correctly.

While I don't gank people, I would miss all the times I've stalked gankers and taken my revenge on their dead corpse over and over.

Launch day ganking is garbage tho, turns men into animals. Rabid ******s running around trying to get lvl cap asap.

[Kikazki]

iirc pvp flag has 5 min cd, if you attack someone, you wont be able to disable it for some time

Usually those people are just nowhere to be found for the 5 minutes duration.

[Obnoxious]

Unflagged people aren't PvPers.

So you're saying all the people here, who want to PvE without being attacked, are actually ALL somehow PvPers, because they're flagged for PvP?
Who cares about being able to choose, even as a PvPer. Let's throw that out of the window, along with logic that's out already.

[Kikazki]

So you're saying all the people here, who want to PvE without being attacked, are actually ALL somehow PvPers, because they're flagged for PvP?
Who cares about being able to choose, even as a PvPer. Let's throw that out of the window, along with logic that's out already.

Yup yup. If 1 isn't 2 then 3 must be 4.

[Obnoxious]

Yup yup. If 1 isn't 2 then 3 must be 4.

Or, it's only valid when it works for you, but becomes invalid when you dislike the result?
That's not only failing logic anymore, it's plain unethical misrepresentation.

[Kikazki]

Or, it's only valid when it works for you, but becomes invalid when you dislike the result?
That's not only failing logic anymore, it's plain unethical misrepresentation.

We were talking about players in Normal servers. Those people have a choice to flag themselves. If they don't, you can't call them PvPers.

That doesn't mean that people on a PvP server, who DON'T have a choice are all PvPers. I hope you see the difference.

[Obnoxious]

We were talking about players in Normal servers. Those people have a choice to flag themselves. If they don't, you can't call them PvPers.

That doesn't mean that people on a PvP server, who DON'T have a choice are all PvPers. I hope you see the difference.

But people on Normal servers who "unflag" themselves are strictly PvErs, right?
Because reason, I'm sure. I don't have any hope left you'll see the difference.