Might want to let them know that was on the old core... :P
Also, ******ed or not, tooltip says this: "Your Cleanse spell has a 30% chance to increase the target's resistance to Disease, Magic and Poison by 30% for 10 sec.", and nowhere in it is stated that your resistance is boosted to that school of magic, unlike for example warlocks Nether Protection.
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I just witnessed a warrior bladestorm crit me for 10k, while I have 950 resi and 15k armor. He had http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50363 str proc, http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54590 proc, http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=55777 proc and http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=44493 proc all at the same time. Now I am not the guy that usually complains about the human racial, in my opinion it is not the main reason why PvP is not balanced in BGs. However that really got me thinking how crazy the burst damage can be at its best with 2 dps trinkets. Anyone who would argue EMFH is not the best racial is just trying to make themselves feel better.
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The thing is, if people go on one dummy each and be challenged to a DPS race, it's obvious that human will most likely win. But everyone should be aware that PvP is not just about dps race, this is more than obvious., although some of them still talk like if it is. Each class has their own way (some classes more, some less) to stop a high burst with those proccs you mentioned (lets see, disarms, shield wall, ice block, bear form + barskin, deterrence doubled if needed, etc etc lots of examples), they just need to know when and which to use, simple. Also 950 resellience doesn't seem much in my opinion especially against a BiS arms warr, and 15k armor may not make any difference if he has high armor penetration, I see lots of warriors capping 70-90% or maybe 100% even.
Even though I surely consider those proccs very good, there is one small problem though. They always come randomly and you can't really control them, which means they not always come in the best moment, meanwhile in the other boost races you can.
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EMFH is the best racial in the game, but not by a huge margin. What really makes that burst is best in slot gear, not only second pve trinket but also weapons and offset, which give insane amount of stats. In the right hands I believe it wouldn't make much difference if it was an orc warr with bis gear and full procs... If people could only use PVP gear in bgs/arenas, I'm not sure if EMFH would be the best racial.
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You Horde noobs will lose always if you come full PvE in BG, doesnt matter if BIS, pve suck in BGs. PvP Geared Shadow Priest will instantly delete you all with Mind Sear spam in AV. I was Horde 2 years and 90% Horde that join BG are full PvE. Also Horde lose due to noob decision making.
Alliance rogue: Rush your Base cap towers. Horde rogues: Full PvE waiting 10k hps to ShadowStep Ambush lol.
Alliance Paladins: Use HoP and other stuff. Horde palas: Rush into enemy team full PvE Yolo Wings - die in 1 sec.
Alliance Warriors: Can stance dance. Horde Warriors: All fos pos geared unless SM Premade join xd
Alliance Shamans: Can use Hex WindShear on focus, Horde Shamans: Yolo PvE Flame Shaco Lava Burst pro di pi es
Alliance Mage: Polymorph gods. Horde mages trolling own faction by telling them to click portals.
Alliance Locks: Can CC. Horde locks: Voidwalker / Imp way to go as pet.
Alliance DK: OP dmg. Horde DK: Army of the Dead carry mi pliz
Alliance priest: Mind Sear gods. Horde priests: DP spam
Alliance hunter: Deleting clothers in Horde, Horde hunters taming wolf in AV
Alliance Druid: Always top heal. Horde Druid: Moooooo!
Change that playstyle Horde and one day maybe you will leave that starter Cave in AV, otherwise Join and try to escape, moar honor for us!
FOR THE ALLIANCE.
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1° pvp'er rekt pveboyz in pvp
2° pvp'er roll alliance because of emfh et sm being slightly better in pvp
3° alliance wins in bg
These racials aren't imbalanced but they create imbalance in bg by gathering skilled players.
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Cool thing i noticed that 50% rogues in Horde don't know they have Distract,Feint, ToT abiltiy ... Mostly those HALF PVE full arp socketed rushing to 20k mage and still getting rekt and are like "omggg my pve dmg carry me plizzz"
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It's not just horde rogues, it's the majority of the rogues on this server. Don't even get me started on rogues who just ambush spam in Shadow Dance, that grinds my gear.
But it's not always the rogues that are the problem, a lot of people don't know how to work with rogues either.
I could name a list of all the stuff that happens all the time when I do bgs on my rogue. All the way from the basics as the classic 14k hp dk that deathgrips your target where you just shadow danced on with shadow step on cd. To the classic shadow priest that needs to dot every single thing up from players to multiple demolishers, because who needs a blinded demo or player anyway? Or the classic wsg scenario where your teammates feel the need to go on the player(s) you just cc'd out of the fight, because the other enemies aren't good enough. The list goes on and on and on, not to mention how even friendly rogues mess up all your stuff.Edited: January 16, 2017
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3.country: bulgaria
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No love for Bulgaria.
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I think imbalance is beyond one faction wins all the times. I play horde on icecrown and we win around %40 of times. Both factions have their win streaks. However bad side is bgs are never competetive, always one side steamrolls another. Horde or alliance doesnt matter. For a VERY long time i havent seen an eots result something like 1300/1600. or in wsg 3/2. there are never comebacks, no competition, no "omg are we gonna win xd" thrill. I really liked that sensation, it made me like wow back in the day. I wish warmane somehow integrate rated bgs to the wotlk.
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The walk over for one side or the other and maybe 1/100 to 1/50 competitive bgs will never be improved, they have said many times they aren't going to do anything non wotlk blizzlike to balance bgs, they have also stated they will not do rated bgs for wotlk.
Pure random bgs, without faction or premade grouping in RBG, which would improve the ratio of competitive to walkover BGs, has been rejected many times.
More advanced match-making like taking into account classes and roles (with unblizzlike role lock the moment you enter the BG) and iLevels (starting with as even as possible distribution of highest iLevel players and checking their bank and bags for wearable items iLevels to prevent abuse by wearing low gear and switching to high gear) is just a dream.
This server focuses on PvE.
Ruin a PVE raid for 2-3 people who might have needed some items by ninjaing (or max 25 people if RO): 60 day ban.
Ruin PVP for 250-1000 people day after day by afk botting: 5 day ban, honor wipe (so srs), and keep all your 300k+ honor worth of already aquired botted gear.
Just the joke bans for f**king over pvp says all that needs to be said about the concern this server has for pvp.Edited: January 20, 2017
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Well I do agree that punishment should be increased in terms of PvP. There is one more thing you should consider tho, the punishment is also determined of what the player is accused of and perhaps the player has been punished before. 60day bans are usually 2nd ban on account(more or less).
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I agree that BGs are quite unbalanced right now.
The problem is the enormous gear difference between players. Newcomers with 2k gs facing BiS geared veterans, this can only lead to a unbalanced fight where the better geared team completely annihilates the worse geared team. Every second BG on Icecrown ends up with half of the team sitting afk at the GY waiting until the BG is over because they get badly outgeared by their opponents.
Now when u look at blackrock the BGs there are much more balanced and challenging because ppl are equal geared.
Imo we need a system that puts equal geared players together in a BG. Let the lowies fight against lowies and the BiS geared veterans against other BiS geared players. BGs would be so much more competitive...Edited: January 21, 2017
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BiS geared veterans of the shop lmao
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