WotLK [Guide] Fury Warrior PVE by Inform

[jendah]

Are you guys trolling or what? 1 Nightmare Tear covers your both 2 blue sockets. You don't need any other blue gem or green or whatever you're saying here. It's total rubbish. Only 1 Nightmare Tear and you got your meta gem unlocked. End of story. And from the bis gear you do not want to have 3% hit from talents cuz you'll lose 3 useful talent points. 2 from Enrage and 1 from Fury charge. Gloren + Crypt is the bis combination without lolmourne.

We were talking about which meta is better, and about bis gear (with mourne, when it becomes available). The topic was which meta and why is better (chaotic which requires TWO blue gems - so 1 tear is not enough vs Relentess). Saing something without understanding reason(s) behind it is not enough for me.

[Blubbey]

Nice little collection.

[Joltie]

Are you guys trolling or what? 1 Nightmare Tear covers your both 2 blue sockets. You don't need any other blue gem or green or whatever you're saying here. It's total rubbish. Only 1 Nightmare Tear and you got your meta gem unlocked. End of story. And from the bis gear you do not want to have 3% hit from talents cuz you'll lose 3 useful talent points. 2 from Enrage and 1 from Fury charge. Gloren + Crypt is the bis combination without lolmourne.

Can someone confirm that a single Nightmare Tear is enough to activate Chaotic Skyflare gem?

[hammering]

Are you guys trolling or what? 1 Nightmare Tear covers your both 2 blue sockets. You don't need any other blue gem or green or whatever you're saying here. It's total rubbish. Only 1 Nightmare Tear and you got your meta gem unlocked. End of story. And from the bis gear you do not want to have 3% hit from talents cuz you'll lose 3 useful talent points. 2 from Enrage and 1 from Fury charge. Gloren + Crypt is the bis combination without lolmourne.

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a 10 all stats will count for 1 red + 1 yellow + 1 blue. with 1 of them you'll still need another blue gem to activate the meta. Relentless is the bis meta for a warrior.

[iSullivan]

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a 10 all stats will count for 1 red + 1 yellow + 1 blue. with 1 of them you'll still need another blue gem to activate the meta. Relentless is the bis meta for a warrior.

If you bothered to read this very detailed and correct post, you will find actually Relentless isn't the BiS meta.

[taralej]

Alright, so...

1) Does Enrage still proc from AoEs on Warmane?
2) Do BoK and BoS still stack?
3) Do Death Wish and Hysteria still stack?
4) Can glancing blows still be pushed out from the hit table?

Just some general questions, the answers of which will basically determine whether Fury Warrs will become the new melee FotM now that SoV double-dipping got fixed for Palas.

[jendah]

Alright, so...

1) Does Enrage still proc from AoEs on Warmane?
2) Do BoK and BoS still stack?
3) Do Death Wish and Hysteria still stack?
4) Can glancing blows still be pushed out from the hit table?

Just some general questions, the answers of which will basically determine whether Fury Warrs will become the new melee FotM now that SoV double-dipping got fixed for Palas.

1) ?
2) No.
3) No.
4) ?

[iSullivan]

4) Can glancing blows still be pushed out from the hit table?

I don't think this bug affects warrs as much as it did paladins, since u do far less white melee attacks than heroic strikes, even if it is still bugged I don't think a warrior with 80-90% crit chance will do more dps than a decent arp capped one.

[jendah]

Offhand strikes (= whites) are still +-10% of our dps. And since dual wielding miss chance is way higher -> we get to push glancings way sooner (anything above about 55% crit) if its still bugged.

Question is not if its worth getting crit over arpen - it is definitelly not. But about value of crit + arpen vs crit + haste gear(wrists, back) and agi vs plate gear with same itemization (PP belt vs Vali belt) after getting arp cap.

[BlackFury]

Offhand strikes (= whites) are still +-20-30% of our dps.

You might want to check that number again.

[taralej]

Thx for the answers on 2 and 3, jendah. I knew there were bug reports for both issues, but I didn't know if they were fixed.

Regarding 1 and 4, I guess they're still live... At least I don't see anything in the changelog about them.

Just to clarify what I know: Glancing blows should be a static 25% vs +3lvl and bosses, which could only ever be reduced by getting + weapon skill gear - a measure added by Blizzard with the release of the game to make sure MDPSers don't go berserk when fully geared. Instead on Warmane the hit table is messed up so criticals push glancing blows out of the table. And Enrage - last time I checked it procced from damage that shouldn't proc it (AoEs most notably), similar to Owlkin Frenzy.

[jendah]

You might want to check that number again.

yep, numbers fixed it.. point stays.

[jendah]

Regarding 1 and 4, I guess they're still live... At least I don't see anything in the changelog about them.

1) Last time I checked (long before moltdown). Enrage had 5% uptime on bosses for me. Making it pretty useless, might be bugged again.. will test soonish.

4) There was a lot of fixes with hit table last update.. I would rather test it again.

[iSullivan]

Did rs 25 now, can confirm the glancing blows are still bugged.

[taralej]

Pfft... -_- This is ridiculous. Thanks, iSullivan!