Happily deleted my Lordaeron shaman and started leveling on Icecrown. I've just had enough.
Spent 30 minutes on global spamming for UP with daily, got a group together, i ended up being the only one flying to the summ stone(everyone else expected to magically be summoned [no, we had no warlock] ), spent another 5 or so minutes waiting for someone to actually get their behind to the summ stone, started summoning, one dps was afk, quickly found a replacement(meanwhile two of the others entered the dungeon), tried to summon him but the guy that stayed with me at the summ stone ALSO WENT AFK without even saying "brb" or something.
Thanks for the wonderful experience. See you on Icecrown.
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No, I have no reason to lie to you or myself. The reason I don't play on Lordaeron is 100% because of the lack of RDF. It's a shame because I don't like p2wcrown and Lordaeron would be perfect (in my opinion) if it had RDF.
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1. I agree, I hope they one day will enable RDF.
2. Icecrown is not a pay to win server. Is there any item you can't get ingame on Icecrown? No. You can pay to make it less time consuming, and easier for yourself. Still, it will just be the same as a server that is really old, and people are fully geared.
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I don't mind having RDF disabled on Lordaeron.
What I do mind is not having an alternative way to replace RDF, because spamming Global is everything but a solution to a problem. First of all, you can not even see what people write without completely ignoring the actual game and scrolling hard, because every single second there's a few posts (peak time) which makes it crazy. So, in my opinion, no RDF is ok but we should've been given a decent alternative to make a group (spamming global is not a solution). I like when things are rough, and I don't mind not having RDF or anything else, but it would indeed be nice if we had something like a channel for people of a certain level range, say 50 - 59 in which we'd be able to communicate between each other and thus create groups for whatever it is that we're after. But that will never happen, so meh, it's okay.
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that there was no rdf when server launched was totally understandable and it was actually nice to lvl in the crowded world.
But right now no rdf just means less newcomers / people lvling alt (= more raids,dungs,bg,arenas).
Also people overrate rdf a lot anyways if you think you lvl only through rdf in wotlk you are delusional. its not even worth beside once per day / or /and if you have all the quests for the dungeons. but spaming hours of rdf especially without heirlooms will be a lot slower than questing/grinding outside.
What actually bothers me the most is that we dont get rdf because of socialism but now everyone lvls their alt via mobtagging in dungeons ?!
And why can we que battleground fr om everywhere? would also be nice to que at npc like in vanilla and see the other players so you already know its not worth to que when you see certain people there :D
and i have done over 300 5man heroics alone on my mainchar. its just time for rdf by now and sadly i didnt make any great conversations in any of them. during vanilla/tbc lvling yes but in wotlk not even once:
lfm hc daily w me specc kk k k hi k k k thx for run byeEdited: March 14, 2017
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This is so true. I do miss the diversity though, like sometimes you just burn out from questing and a few fast dungeon runs through RDF would come in handy to spice the things up just a tiny bit, especially since there's virtually no pvp in terms of BG's in any bracket except 10 - 19, 70 - 79 and 80 (some activity in 60 - 69 lvl range but not that much, other brackets pop up really rarely). So we do kind of lack in more than one field (RDF) in my opinion, but hey, it's a free alternative and as such it has its downs.
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No offence but good riddance, if u cant handle something as simple as typical dungeon experience (which happens even with rdf) , then u are most likely not build for the raid content.
While lvling u end up doing like 2 dungeons per day at most (up untill lvl 60 then u dont even need 1 per day), thats if u was prepared with good route to lvl and gather all of the quests for them at the same time, or if u just want to make something different.Once u hit 80 u spend 4-5 hours per day for 3-4 days and u are capped with enough emblems to buy all the vendor gear, then its just 1 dungeon per day.
Now, the 2 most unique features are no donate, and buffed content (both meant to improve end game ) and u are trying to tell me that u are not playing here because of RDF ?
The lack of rdf doesnt hinder anyone from advancing and doing end game content, which is everyones goal.
I agree we have less new comers because of it, but if u really wanted to experience the unique features of lord and use no rdf as excuse not to, then u are simply lying to yourself :D
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None taken, I can't get offended by someone who has never actually been in a group with me(be it for a dungeon or raid). Considering your current opinion based on just reading my posts wrong, you'd be shocked to see how well I actually get along with people, provided they have the decency to be upfront and communicative at least for the duration of the dungeon/raid. I don't tolerate individuals who join a group and expect to reach the end without uttering a single word like "brb"/"bathroom break"/"i got poor connection"/"irl problems, gtg" while constantly stalling the group's progress. That's my entire issue. The intentional lack of rdf just adds up to the problem - you spend even more time dealing with the stuff I already described numerous times. That's it. I've said my piece.
I'd very much appreciate it if this doesn't get deleted like my last post just because it doesn't fit in the "disabled rdf experience".
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People just have to figure out that this server isn't for casuals, u don't want x1 XP without RDF? Play somewhere else... Same for people asking boss nerf cause "this is too hard, only 4 guild cleanining content... blabla..."
Wotlk was easy as ****... This server is about making a realy chalenging wotlk experience, if u don't want to try hard or "don't have the time to spam global" or idk wich other ****, simply don't play there.
Even if the realm drop at 2k at peak we will be more than fine to do what we want to do on this server. There is TON of x1 Blizzlike Wotlk realm why do you want to change this one? I enjoy buffed content, x1 XP, no RDF etc... Why can't i enjoy it?
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Yes the server is not really made for casuals. That includes everything from boss nerfing, RDF, 1x XP rate. After that you are saying that people can go somewhere else to play - if they don't enjoy how the server is made.
-Well, look at the facts. The server is having a stable population for now, and will most likely have a population the grows a bit the first few months after the release after ICC. But what after that? Do you really think that people will stay if the server drops as far as 2k peak? If you had taken a look before you wrote that, you would understand - and you would have seen that even more then 2k would leave in the end.
Most people that want to play Lordaeron, are actually accepting the buffed raids too. The problem is, time. Do you really enjoy spending time writing "LFG, INV, 5K GS, LFM, etc?" over and over again? Do you really think that is what makes some more social. Or a server more hardcore? No. It is making the server more time consuming.
I am not saying that they should add RDF without any idea behind it. Maybe make it possible to group up - then you have to fly to the dungeon? Without the extra exp + gold for example. We don't have to decline the RDF as a whole, but maybe parts of it.
I have never in my entire life, seen another 1x blizzlike server (wotlk) - without donation/vote shop - that are okey or well populated. The servers you talk about then, got maybe less then 100 people - and are most likely very bugged.
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com on man just enable rdf will ya
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I want to bring up my experience, adding it to the other players explaining why Lordaeron should activate the RDG.
I started to play here with my partner, from scratch. I picked up this realm because, since my partner is new at the game I wanted to have the full leveling experience, even when I knew that it would be longer to reach max level.
I thought that with no Dungeon Finder, there would be some different resources to find/make a group and also a few guilds who help low levels in order to pass through the difficulties you will have as a new player.
Well, the reality in Lordaeron is pretty different, which it makes almost impossible to find a group or complete an instance or upgrade progressively your character's armor. Is a chain of different little things that becomes a great trouble if you reach lvl 80. I will list them:
1) You have few guilds (I've counted only two in the alliance) who are open for all players beside the language barriers or time zones. This guilds doesn't have enough players of a same lvl to make instances, so you have to use /global in order to find a group.
The other guilds are not only exclusive lvl 80 but also with language and GS. The most interesting thing is that guild with impossibles requirements post three or four times a day that they have open slots for applicants. Which means that there's a few people full armored...
2) /global is a channel with mixed purposes: chatting, finding groups, trading, etc. Is not bad and you can't prevent that some people use a channel for other purpose that the one who originally was intended to. But seriously, it takes a lot of time and most of it, you will not succeeed to find a group, specially in the hours when some dudes start to spam in global like some unattended kids searching for a little bit of attention.
3) The only way to have decent gear right now, if you don't belong to a High ranked Guild or have a previous lvl 80 character is having the proffesion according to your class' armor abilities, and buying the items you don't have in the AH. Is very difficult to lvl if you are alone and don't have the proper armor.
For a new person this could be very difficult. Even if he upgrades professions at the same time he level up, gather and farm all he can get and do a lot of questing... stills difficult to get the gold to the 40 lvl mount and a lot of time invested who some people doesn't have (remember that we have also obligations IRL). Imagine when you have to purchase the other mounts, and no chance if he had to purchase crafted armor/weapons/etc.
The solution is lvl up 5 different characters with all the professions, and make it up yourself in order to not spend any money and have all the benefits for you. If you have a hard time leveling 1 character, imagine 5.
4) When you're a fresh 80 is all about GS. No one of the 80s Guilds offers help, with little thinks like one slot for a fresh 80 in a raid (and I've played in other places before helping low GS 70s/80s, I KNOW for sure that you will not wipe for having 8/10 or 9/10 with high GS and the others don't) so you have to figure out how to make an instance or upgrade different characters with different professions. This is a problem in all games, I know. But if it exists in all games is no excuse to have it here too.
I love the realm, but the absence of RDF makes this big problems. You have a very difficult time to do a lot of stuff, and someone mentioned it before: We all have different things to do in real life. The half of the population or maybe more are adults who work or study and enter to play for having a good time. I've been playing a month already and with my obligations I have a very slow proggresion. I'm lvl 41 right now because I can't spend much time like I did in the past lvling and uprgading a character when I was a teenager.
The people who can't follow a schedule for raiding for their time zone and their obligations, don't have the chance to form a group because they're not geared.
So I hope that the opinion of the RDG changes in the future, in the mean time I will try my best to lvl up and get my priest geared.
Regards,
Simbelmyne (Night elf Priestess)
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I too find the lack of RDF a bit discouraging. I've played Retail from 2004 to 2012 and now I don't have the time to play WoW as much as I used to. I just can't justify the $15/month for retail now that I have a family and a career, so here I am enjoying Warmane.
WOTLK was for me one of my favorite times playing WoW and this server seems to have it all.. except for the RDF. WoW was completely enhanced by the addition of the RDF. The only minor complaint I had with RDF is that sometimes you'd get in a turbo mode where you could clear dungeons quickly and requeue with a fresh group, not really making friends or socializing. That was a minor price to pay for not having to sit around in LFG chat for hours trying to find not only people willing to run that unpopular dungeon, but people with the right classes you needed to run that dungeon!
That minor price was also more than outweighed by the fact that you didn't have to sit in LFG chat for hours trying to find something YOU wanted to do. If you want to do BRD and nobody else wants to, after a period of time you're going to log out, or maybe you'll settle for ZF. But on that first wipe in ZF, or as soon as you find a group that does want to do BRD, you're going to bail on ZF and leave that group. That wouldn't have been a problem if you could queue up to do BRD to begin with.
I've played WoW without the RDF, but back in those days the servers were so packed with people we had queues. As nice as Warmane is, there just isn't the population to support all the possible combinations of classes needed for all the different dungeons for all the different level groups.
Also, the people who play on Warmane aren't usually complete 100% newbies to World of Warcraft. We're veterans who don't sub anymore and are returning to our younger years when we had a great time playing a specific version of WoW. No RDF just makes reliving that time more difficult for us and reminds us of why we probably stopped playing retails - not enough time in our lives anymore for family, a career, AND WoW.
No RDF makes us jump through additional time sink hoops before we can relive the dungeon content that the devs have worked hard to script properly.
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The lack of RDF is the only reason I don't play on this server. Though everything else (rates, difficulty, etc) sounds awesome.
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Warmane taking public opinion into account: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....eron-Yes-or-no
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