It's just inferior, you can down anything with it as MT or OT, but it's not the ideal candidate for any encounter.
-
Member
-
Member
Hey. What would be the best professions for blood dk tanks? I’m really confused. Is engineering worth it or jc/bs is ok?
-
Forum Veteran
jc/bs is good
engineering is great not just because stats, but other tools it provides
it's not a MUST to get the "best" professions, difference is negligible. If you don't have something specific(optional) in mind, choose professions considering other factors, not purely tank related things. Important aspect is flexibility, so professions work for other specs too, that's why people choose jc/engi or jc/bs. Nice space to put whatever kind of stats necessary instead of being locked into +60 Stamina from Mining, for example.
-
Wind of Northrend
If you ever plan to DPS as well, Engineering is the best profession to get, 885 armor on Gloves is also great for tanking, and Nitro Boots mobility is also awesome in case you need to kite the target for couple of seconds.
As for your 2nd profession as tank, it does not matter to be honest.
It can be Mining, it can be Jewelcrafting (which is also bis for DPS with Engineering), it can be Blacksmithing (Mining, JC and BS will give you almost same amount of stamina in the end), it can be Alchemy (making epic gems and/or gold), it can be Leatherworking (awesome resistance enchant).
If you already have JC + BS and you plan to Tank only and/or play PvP with that, you are fine, dont change anything.
If you have JC + BS and you play PvE only, and you want to DPS as well as Tank, Engineering might be a good investment, but it wont increase your performance on a big scale, only the Nitro Boots are going to alow you to play with a bit greedy mentality on some fights cos of the burst in mobility.
-
Member
Is it okay to use Lichbourne talent as a tank? Like lichbourne + 20 more runic power + glyph to refund 20 runic power?
I mean is this okay to use if you want to solo some content and need heals ? I tried it but I only get around 1445-1500 heal from each death coil, don't know if this is intentional or just a problem as a tank not having enough attack power for it?
-
Member
"IF you want aggro: SPAM ICY TOUCH, nothing else will help u with that."
Isn't that what blood boil is designed for?
-
Member
@Gnimo
Is it possible to tanking in DW blood spec on ulduar and TotC content? If so, what caps should i get?
And blood DW or frost DW is better?
Two fast tanking weapons are ok or better get two slow dps weapons?
Thank you in advance for your answer
Tydraniu
-
Member
Nice Guide what do you think about this bulid : https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#j0EMqI0I...xxxcMhz:himmzV . I have been using it for a while. survivability is good.
-
Member
Before spamming IT, you should taunt first to put yourself on the top of the aggro priority. Spamming IT without taunting is just a waste of runes in cases that you're already far behind in aggro.
-
Member
hey fellow Deathknights,
can we please have a little discusion about Bryntroll HC vs Ramaladni's HC for blood tanking? I'm MT in my guild gr2 on Lordearon in 12/12 HC guild, but still learning how to tank. My officers and GM tell me tanking with Bryntroll is BIG NO (I'm orc too) and that I should go with DBS axe. What do you guys think about it?
-
Wind of Northrend
I would like to hear the reasons why Bryntroll is a BIG NO, since I heard that "Lordaeron gameplay and logic > Icecrown gameplay and logic". xD
Personally the only couple of bosses I would use Ramaladni's over Bryntroll are Halion and Sindragosa mainly because of the parry haste.
Other than that, I dont see any "BIG NO" or "BIG DIFFERENCE" between the two.
Its a high personal preference from my point of view, do you like the small random heal, do you like expertise for potentially more secure Death Strikes?
-
Member
Wazaaap fellow Lordaeron slacker, glad to see there's someone from Lord end-game guild actually asking a question on forum(usually it goes all over discord, friend of a friends friend...blabla), here's why It's a no:
-http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=51905 gives 185stamina, http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50709 gives 173stamina, that's 8 stamina difference.
-Since you ain't using Claymore HC or Cryptmaker HC, I'm guessing you're either progressing BPC & BQL HC or you are very unlucky with drops(braindead warrs have priority on Cryptmaker in your guild??) also I'm guessing you don't need more hit to cap your taunt.
-Gnimo said Ramaladni is just for Sindra & Halion hc, well as Bdk you have ITcancelmacro + pesti/bb to spam for http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=64859 + http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=66217 since It can't be dodged/parried(ofc you're using all def CDs when needed) and that's how you avoid Parry_Haste as Bdk, instead going for hard exp cap & sacrificing precious armor&stamina as a toll for it.
-I'd take Ramaladni > Bryntroll always(heroic duuh) since you're a tank, you don't care bout other flat stats that much(except hit from cryptmaker to cap your taunt) on your weapon, you want ARMOR+STAMINA as your main stats.
-Also, Bryntroll is Udk & Ret weapon, but Ret should be aiming for BloodFall hc as soon as possible and Udk should be going for Bryntroll/Cryptmaker both HC ofc ;)Edited: January 31, 2022
-
Wind of Northrend
When it comes to a reply before the usual website spam I didnt even notice lol...
When I see a Lordaeron player explain something, I legit feel like we are playing 2 different games.
My game, being rather easy, people not trying to reinvent the wheel each day.
Your game, being rather hard, people trying to make a fuss over anything in game possible.
Imagine making 8 stamina an issue, how hard the game is on that side of the island? :D
I used to raid with a guy that was awesome BDK tank and used Bryntroll as Orc, no threat issues, no random deaths issue and it was 0% content when it comes to Lich King 25m HC, so I really dont see an issue with going for that weapon if someone wants to.
This is why I said its a highly personal choice, nothing else, since both weapons work and there are no "BIG" downsides in using one over the other.
You lose expertise while gaining a random proc heal that can be helpful at times, the only issue is it being "random".
When it comes to Sindra and Halion, I simply cant see someone valuing some minor stamina and armor loss more than a ****ing Death Strike in a time of need especially as a freaking Blood DK.
http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=51905 + http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=51308 + http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50625 + http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50968
Imagine going 6 expertise and trying to Death Strike Sindra and Halion hoping you get healed rather than destroyed. xD
I am also glad u used this chance to market the guide you made, but when it comes to your talent spec, I simply cant understand why would someone go for "Bloody Strikes" over "Death Rune Mastery" without taking Heart Strike itself.
I simply cant see anyone refusing these runes for a BDK tank using Glyph of Disease:
https://imgur.com/a/7A5CCHx
Using 40 hit 40 stamina food you can go for any weapon or armor build in the game.
On top of that, as said, the content is made to be done WITHOUT best in slot gear, so if you are stacked with 277 items you can go for w/e weapon your soul feels like and still manage to kill Lich King 25m HC just as good as if you min-maxed the itemisation for a Blood DK tank to the teeth.
-
Member
It's simple bro. We don't have to use that much DS xD. We're tanks, we keep aggro on boss & use our def CDs, It's healers job to keep us alive. Yes DS is nice self heal, but no way I'm taking DRM, pointless wasted 3 points. On Halion, I got my AMS ready, IBF as panic def CD when some tards are pushing corp to 70+. I got my Mark of Blood + macro(BT+VB+Sindra trink) as my main CD there. One cutter I'm under my CDs, 2nd cutter I get HoS from ret etc... Pointless for me to use DS there to minor self heal me, I got my sidekick Hpally & Rsham keeping me alive, and I'm Head2Head with a bloody beast xD So yea I'd say that spec & rotation we use on Lord is superior because It's harder for us there(AGAIN don't wanna start this argument as well, play on whichever realm you like) but I wrote precisely why I think I'm right, I explained it. Bdk=tank, Tank=Stamina+Armor #1 stats, My job is to tank, Healer's job is to heal.
-Also brosky, in the time of need(minor panic) I have solo https://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=49489 or I'm under VB which means big D self heal from Rune Tap, in time of crysis/healers slacking ;) Just think about It cmaan...
-Also, why would BDK use Glyph of Disease? Your main source of aggro is spamming IT, so I deffinently say disease glyph is wasted glyph socketEdited: January 31, 2022
-
Member
-And yes, I aint a liar so I will admit xD I use my "Exp cap" set for tanking Halion just because I PERSONALLY don't give a s*** about 1k armor&stamina loss, I'm not feeling the differences at all & I can survive the incoming dmg.
-Yes I'm gonna promote my guide everywhere & anywhere I can, not for money or something trivial, imagine doing that on prvt srv od game that's 15yrs old lel... No I'll promote cuz all of these DK guides I see are from 2016-2017, a lot of things have changed, a lot of new stuff was learned & discovered by limitless continual farm every week, every month, every year. That's just how it is, I didn't write the rules nor am I the smartest mofo on server, just trying to explain what/why/when, cheers brosky ^^
Quote
