Wandering plague pvp

[astera777]

Many guides say that you should spec reaping instead of wandering plague, but all highest rated dk here take wandering plague even for 2vs2. What is proper build? For 2vs2 and 3vs3. If a choose wandering plague should you choose blood presence or stick to unholy?

[Guadalajara69]

Use wandering plague build, and of course unholy presence either way.

[astera777]

im asking because in older post http://forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=382048 many people said that wandering plague is crap. so i am wonder if something changed ? bugged ? or that guys from post does not know proper build for 2vs2.

[carnivalfx]

Honestly in PvP i prefer spending 3 points Reaping rather than in Wandering Plague, no matter what "Pro players" say.

With Wandering plague you could deal a bit of more damage overall but you have to consider that a lot of times it can not procs because enemies will be far from each other more than 8 yards almost all the times, besides that damage from wandering plague hardly will be significant to put some pressure or to land a kill.

Having 2 death runes available is useful for many occasions. You can use 1 more scourge strike/death strike which a lot of times can be critical to land a kill, you also could use death runes for chain of ice or other things.
Having the possibility to spam 3 scourge strike instead of 2 in a row can make big difference, especially on clothes.
It happens more often than you think that an enemy is able to run away with just 1-2k hp left.

[Georg37]

Honestly in PvP i prefer spending 3 points Reaping rather than in Wandering Plague, no matter what "Pro players" say.

With Wandering plague you could deal a bit of more damage overall but you have to consider that a lot of times it can not procs because enemies will be far from each other more than 8 yards almost all the times, besides that damage from wandering plague hardly will be significant to put some pressure or to land a kill.

FYI wandering plague procs even on the target itself(when nobody is around him) thats why its good for burst. and its free, you dont have to use gcd or any resources. It is random tho and breaks CC, thats why some people preffer reaping instead of it.
Edit: also wandering plague depends on crit, which is highly suppresed by resilience in PVP, another reason to not take it into arena.

[lorenzop7]

FYI wandering plague procs even on the target itself(when nobody is around him) thats why its good for burst. and its free, you dont have to use gcd or any resources. It is random tho and breaks CC, thats why some people preffer reaping instead of it.
Edit: also wandering plague depends on crit, which is highly suppresed by resilience in PVP, another reason to not take it into arena.

no it wont breaks cc:
read the talent: Ignores any target under the effect of a spell that is cancelled by taking damage.
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/it/spe...ndering-plague

[Turbolqk]

After thinking about it a lot WP is taken as UhDK/Hpal since the extra utility from reaping isn't needed. Otherwise Reaping all the way. WP is still trash imo, better put these 3 pts in CotG and talons.

[xTheLichKingx]

Wandering plague is literally the best and everyone in this thread is clowning on you.
WP can proc every second and with a little bit of luck and some high crit (which you tend to have in pvp) you can get a lot of wandering plague procs.
WP also counts as an unmitigateable crit on your diseases as it's a seperate mechanic based on your crit chance that affects enemies and thus is unmitigated by resilience. Wandering plague completely penetrates resilience, giving it insane value. It doesn't interupt CC, gives a lot of sustained dps added to your diseases.

Edit: Also wandering plague can proc 3 times in the time your diseases proc once (IT in the first second, PS in the 2nd second and pestilence in the 3rd second, all 3 diseases do their damage at seperate times, procing wandering plague 3 times every 3 seconds, leading to a much higher damage output than either disease individually.

[skullatbash]

Wandering plague is literally the best and everyone in this thread is clowning on you.
WP can proc every second and with a little bit of luck and some high crit (which you tend to have in pvp) you can get a lot of wandering plague procs.
WP also counts as an unmitigateable crit on your diseases as it's a seperate mechanic based on your crit chance that affects enemies and thus is unmitigated by resilience. Wandering plague completely penetrates resilience, giving it insane value. It doesn't interupt CC, gives a lot of sustained dps added to your diseases.

Edit: Also wandering plague can proc 3 times in the time your diseases proc once (IT in the first second, PS in the 2nd second and pestilence in the 3rd second, all 3 diseases do their damage at seperate times, procing wandering plague 3 times every 3 seconds, leading to a much higher damage output than either disease individually.

just poiting out that WP does not ignore resilience.
patch 3.0.8: "Wandering Plague will now properly reset after being cast and now considers the resilience of the target in determining its chance to be triggered"

even the damge is always lower than the dot's tick who triggered the effect vs PvP target (resilience is "double dipping" into WP damage)

also, once you refresh the dot's with pestilence they start ticking at the same time. So, by considering the small Internal cooldown of WP...

that said it is still a good talent anyway