1. "If Eclipse just ended and DoTs are down: refresh IS if you just came out of Lunar, refresh MF if you just came out of Solar."

    Should be other way around, right?

    Refresh IS if you just came out of Solar (since you are about to spam Wrath for next eclipse) and refresh MF if you just came out of Lunar..?

    Great guide!
    The reason to refresh is about which eclipse you're hitting next. The ideal state is to have one up at all times, and with the level of crit you're looking for, it's pretty close to 100% uptime. So as your Solar ends, you want to tap a Moonfire so that it's fresh on the target, and then hopefully hit your Lunar in 2-3 wrath casts, and then you're getting the benefit of Improved Swarm for full eclipse duration.

  2. Pretty sweet guide, few small changes:

    Crit cap:
    45.20% crit rating is not needed on your character screen, only 40.20% is (fire mages for example give 5% crit received by target debuff, so this will not show up on your char screen, but does count towards this goal).

    Talents
    Also, imp insect swarm is not the best talent choice when you're higher on gear and can hit the crit cap without it (or close to it).

    DPS Rotation
    Having insect swarm up is not needed at all if you want to max your dps, however: 1 insect swarm SHOULD always be up to help out the tank! So if there's 2 boomies, 1 can drop it (pref. the lowest geared one keeps it up). You don't really need MF for your dps either, but you need it to keep the idol at max 5 stacks, so you let MF run out and refresh it at max 4 sec left on it.

    BIS List
    T10 Pants are arguably better, but both work perfectly fine, this is simply a matter of preference. Aka; this is a viable alternative!
    TOGC Anub Dps trinket is a viable BIS trinket, but ONLY if your entire gear set apart of LOD weapon is Full BIS! (Spellpower is more benificial than haste or crit, the proc isn't as strong, but the overall increase from SP is always there on every spell).

    <3 Boomies <3
    Edited: November 20, 2019



  3. This BIS-list is not accurate for Horde as it only has 237 hit rating. Any1 knows any BIS-list for balance druid for hordes?
    You can just go crit ring from marrow as it has 52 hit so you will have 245 and maybe go for one 12sp 10hit socket and you should have over 10%

  4. June 9, 2021  
    heya very nice build indeed!
    is there any way to update talent trees though? site not working

  5. heya very nice build indeed!
    is there any way to update talent trees though? site not working
    here talents links fixed:
    Spoiler: Show


    The following is the ideal all-around build. I will discuss the more controversial talents below. I also highly recommend that you work on a build of your own based on what you raid and your preferences.
    General PvE build: 58/0/13

    However, I would recommend this build instead if you are primarily focusing on ICC raiding:
    Ideal ICC build: 56/0/15

    Alternatively, there are a few other builds you may want to consider, depending on whether you want to pick up mana, AoE utility, and/or pushback talents.

    Alternate builds:



  6. Pretty sweet guide, few small changes:

    Crit cap:
    45.20% crit rating is not needed on your character screen, only 40.20% is (fire mages for example give 5% crit received by target debuff, so this will not show up on your char screen, but does count towards this goal).

    Talents
    Also, imp insect swarm is not the best talent choice when you're higher on gear and can hit the crit cap without it (or close to it).

    DPS Rotation
    Having insect swarm up is not needed at all if you want to max your dps, however: 1 insect swarm SHOULD always be up to help out the tank! So if there's 2 boomies, 1 can drop it (pref. the lowest geared one keeps it up). You don't really need MF for your dps either, but you need it to keep the idol at max 5 stacks, so you let MF run out and refresh it at max 4 sec left on it.

    BIS List
    T10 Pants are arguably better, but both work perfectly fine, this is simply a matter of preference. Aka; this is a viable alternative!
    TOGC Anub Dps trinket is a viable BIS trinket, but ONLY if your entire gear set apart of LOD weapon is Full BIS! (Spellpower is more benificial than haste or crit, the proc isn't as strong, but the overall increase from SP is always there on every spell).

    <3 Boomies <3
    Can you help me with my Boomie's gemming? I put some +20 crit but I think that's wrong xd

    http://armory.warmane.com/character/...ecrown/summary

  7. I have 10%hit rating and it seems like when feral tank uses faerie fire i miss sometimes cuz of 3%hit of improved faerie fire

  8. I have 10%hit rating and it seems like when feral tank uses faerie fire i miss sometimes cuz of 3%hit of improved faerie fire
    What do you mean by "feral tank uses faerie fire i miss sometimes cuz of 3%hit of improved faerie fire"? Do you have 3/3 https://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=33602?? Are you using it during boss encounters? If you're playing alongside a feral cat/bear in the raid, then their FFF will never overwrite your debuff. I've tested this before, and the boomie's FF was constantly on the boss. Not to mention, if you have a shadow priest in the group, and you're missing 3/3 https://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=33602?, then you still get +3% hit from 3/3 https://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=33193.
    Edited: September 16, 2021 Reason: wanted to clarify my last sentence better

  9. The debuffs do not overwrite each other because they are not the same. They share an icon and have a similar name.

    https://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=33602 is not https://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=16857.

  10. The debuffs do not overwrite each other because they are not the same. They share an icon and have a similar name.

    https://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=33602 is not https://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=16857.
    Yeah, this is what I meant. If Kardashians and other boomies are in the same group as a feral cat/bear, they should always use FF as their first spell. Other ranged dps depend on them.
    If you ask me, the confusion might come from the fact that the guide is slightly outdated. After rereading Kardashians' post, I checked the guide, and I stumbled upon this sentence:

    6 - Rotation

    In this section, I will discuss the Balance Druid "rotation" (I will also link a video further down). I quote the word because I find that "spell priority" is a more accurate way to describe the process. The spells you will cast depend on specific factors, which I will try to explain below. The rotation itself is fairly simple:
    1. Maintain Faerie Fire on the target, unless a Feral Druid is tanking it.
    2. Cast Starfall on cooldown. There are a few reasons you may want to delay casting Starfall (though never by more than 5-10s):
      • You would pull unwanted aggro on nearby mobs.
      • You know you will be moving very soon - save it for then.
      • You are expected to do AoE burst damage soon.

    3. Cast Force of Nature on cooldown, but try to time it so that the Treants stay alive as long as possible.
    4. Spam Wrath during Solar Eclipse, and spam Starfire during Lunar Eclipse.
    5. Spam Wrath after leaving Solar Eclipse, and spam Starfire after leaving Lunar Eclipse, until the next Eclipse procs.
    Imho, this was based on an earlier bug:

    What is bugged however is that Faerie Fire Feral, and unspecced Faerie Fires from nonspecced druids will constantly overwrite your faerie fire, losing the raidwide 3% hit buff as well as the crit component for boomkins.
    http://forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=316278

    So, yeah. This is no longer the case.

  11. Talents are troll, bis list is troll and even your stat priority is troll. No wonder people on warmane are monkeys.. with guides like this.

  12. Talents are troll, bis list is troll and even your stat priority is troll. No wonder people on warmane are monkeys.. with guides like this.
    Give us your superior gear list and talents, so we can stop sniffing our fingers. Your comment makes you look like a monkey otherwise.

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    Edited: November 21, 2021

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