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Old January 6, 2012  (permalink
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Default [Guide]DEPRECATED Donorbashed's MM PvE Guide 3.3.5a

This version of my guide is now DEPRECATED. Please view the new one here.

UPDATED: All Talents Trees are Now on a Functioning Talent Calculator! Enjoy Guys!
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Changelog:
v1.0.0.3 - Added Hunter Resources Link Bank. Cataclysm version begun.
v1.0.0.2 - Added several user submitted macros, updated gems, geat, and stats.
v1.0.0.1 - Revised Stats, Addons, and Gear based on user feedback.
v1.0.0.0 - Guide posted.
(Please note: This is part of a series of guides intended to put all hunter information in one localized spot. Please do not clutter my threads with useless garbage. If you find an error private message me and I'll look into it. Do NOT post here with "omg u noob, X is wrong, it's really Y!" I'll just ask a moderator to clean it out without looking at it once.)

Table of Contents:
  1. Introduction
  2. Spec Overview
  3. Deciding What is Right For You.
  4. Agility vs. Armor Penetration
  5. Stats
  6. Abilities
  7. Specs and Builds
  8. Recommended Glyphs
  9. Rotation
  10. Movement Management
  11. Addons
  12. Bugs
  13. Gear/Gems
  14. Fresh 80 Gear
  15. Macros/Professions
  16. Pets and Pet Talents
  17. Hunter Resources


This is retired. See above link for updated guide.
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Really really helpful!
 
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Good guide, but a mm hunter pulling top dps from all hunter?! :eek:
At 5k gs i pulled 3k over dps any marksman hunter. At 6.7k gs (my friend) pull 67k dps at BQL 25 in surv. I really doubt any mm can pull over 40k.
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Good guide, but a mm hunter pulling top dps from all hunter?! :eek:
At 5k gs i pulled 3k over dps any marksman hunter. At 6.7k gs (my friend) pull 67k dps at BQL 25 in surv. I really doubt any mm can pull over 40k.
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(Please note: This is part of a series of guides intended to put all hunter information in one localized spot. Please do not clutter my threads with useless garbage. If you find an error private message me and I'll look into it. Do NOT post here with "omg u noob, X is wrong, it's really Y!" I'll just ask a moderator to clean it out without looking at it once.)
Please heed my note. On a side note, most of the MM hunters you know are probably just bad. I'm 6.3k, and I can pull 17k in OS10.
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lol, hunters can, most just....fail for some reason
 
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Please heed my note. On a side note, most of the MM hunters you know are probably just bad. I'm 6.3k, and I can pull 17k in OS10.
I am sorry if i offended you in any way. Its just from my personal experience, Marksman Hunters just dont pull alot of DPS. Though survival is very mana consuming, it has a larger burst, from my point of view.
I apprieceate your efforts on the guide, and i really like it, looking at how much effort you put in. I am not trying to bash anyone because i know how it feels when your guide is being bashed by everyone...
If you do 17k in OS that is very very impressive. Some of the best paladins in my guild cannot pull over 15k in Non icc dungeons...
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I didn't care that you used Agility in this guide much more than needed.


But.

You know that Armor Penetration scales percentage wise. So

Huntrosity, High King of Deathwing. Approves!

Edit: You should add alternate BiS Gear, as Rock Steady Treads are quite viable and among some other stuff.
Edit 2: I prefer Wodins over Sindragosas Cruel Claw because you'll actually need the hit rating and the stat difference is barely anything.
 
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I am sorry if i offended you in any way. Its just from my personal experience, Marksman Hunters just dont pull alot of DPS. Though survival is very mana consuming, it has a larger burst, from my point of view.
I apprieceate your efforts on the guide, and i really like it, looking at how much effort you put in. I am not trying to bash anyone because i know how it feels when your guide is being bashed by everyone...
If you do 17k in OS that is very very impressive. Some of the best paladins in my guild cannot pull over 15k in Non icc dungeons...
I don't take offense. I just state the facts.
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I didn't care that you used Agility in this guide much more than needed.


But.

You know that Armor Penetration scales percentage wise. So

Huntrosity, High King of Deathwing. Approves!

Edit: You should add alternate BiS Gear, as Rock Steady Treads are quite viable and among some other stuff.
Edit 2: I prefer Wodins over Sindragosas Cruel Claw because you'll actually need the hit rating and the stat difference is barely anything.
Good point, I'll add that in lter tonight. Though http://armory.molten-wow.com/charact...ed/Neltharion/ is my armory. I use Rimefang Pendant atm, and I still have enough hit with the Dreanei bonus, and talents to be capped. The extra ArP provided by the Pendant outweighs the 15Agi increase from Wodin's imo.

Though come on men, why would I write a guide without understanding armor penetration ?
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Thanks alot for an awsome guide Donorbashed!

I have tried ur macros, but for some reason silencing shot never goes off.
If I hit chimera shot with silencing shot macroed, chimera goes off, but the silence shot icon lights up for half a second but the shot never goes off. Any clues to why this happens?

I aslo noticed on ur build u linked that u have 169 hit rating, but in ur post u said u needed 295.11 to get 100% hit. Why is that? Keeping hit above 295 is hard and I have to sacrifice alot of ArP. Do I lose alot of DPS if I go belove 295 hit?

Thanks again! :-)

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Good guide, but a mm hunter pulling top dps from all hunter?! :eek:
At 5k gs i pulled 3k over dps any marksman hunter. At 6.7k gs (my friend) pull 67k dps at BQL 25 in surv. I really doubt any mm can pull over 40k.
6.7k hunter?
You would need SM to get that much skillscore, nuff said.

Edit: Amg donor, u xfered back to ally? -__-
I'm never coming back to neltha...
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nice guide, keep going
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Get a faction change and have sexy parties with me on the alliance side.
true.. true..
i guess every hunter shoud know about http://huntsmanslodge.com/
very usefull too
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One small correction, couple questions and a suggestion.
Correction:
Nerub"ar Stalker's Cord is a belt not a bracer
http://wotlk.openwow.com/?item=50413
Questions:
1. Is the bis item list in your "guide" referring to heroic items or regular?
If it's heroic item list, you should write up a non heroic bis item list, that people can obtain in-game.
2. Are you sure that Treads of the Wasteland http://wotlk.openwow.com/?item=50071 are better dps then Rock-Steady Treads http://wotlk.openwow.com/?item=49897?
If they are, I don't see how, unless you desperately need hit or something...

Suggestion:
I know you said you're lazy, but make links from openwow for bis hc (donors only) and non hc items in your guide it will be more helpful and less confusing.

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A question:Why not get the improved hunter`s mark talent?
 
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A question:Why not get the improved hunter`s mark talent?
And Replace what?
 
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