Disc Priest (Rapture) Question

Hey guys,

So I'm completely perplexed as to how/why this is considered a good tool for self mana return the way people go on and on about it. Yes you can get a small amount of additional mana back if you shield yourself and are struck every 12 seconds or so enough to break the shield, but here I am specifically talking about the 2.5% mana refund when the shield is broken/dispelled.

So here's the maths:

I have 22,200 mana. 2.5% of that is 555. That's great, but the shield itself costs 666 at any given rank. Please note that I am using the standard Disc healing spec and thus have all relevant reductions in mana cost. This places me at a loss... so when people go on about this so called Rapture trick or Rapture in general, I fail to see how I can possible benefit from it, since down ranking is no longer a thing?

What is the trick? Essentially stacking 5 or more party members with a shield before a timed AoE effect strong enough to break all shields in one go occurs, meaning once it occurs, you are instantly paid back 2.5% mana from all shields because the game begins its internal cooldown slightly after mana calculation occurs, thus bending the rule.

That's great, but 5x666 = 3330 mana... and i still only get back 2775... so I just lost 555 (one proc total) doing this to quote "get back fat mana procs"...

I believe this talent is an excellent tool for mana refunding, but not recuperation - that simply isn't mathematically probably without a minimum of around 26,750, and even then, its only refunding like literally 2-3 mana... making this entirely meaningless.

If I am missing something here, please dear god inform me what it is, this is driving me crazy. I feel like either every Priest suckling the teat of Rapture is either insane or I'm mentally deficient, one of the two.

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Just to reiterate, I am not talking about having your own shield being popped, as that obviously does increase your mana.

Not sure how getting back 80% mana you spent is not impressive enough for you.

And not sure if that's what you are asking, but yes, you can target and time Raptures quite nicely on most encounters and stretch your mana greatly. If you just randomly dump shields everywhere, Rapture talent is quite pointless.

but late in game at about 6k gs in 25 man raids u gonna have around 30k mana buffed ( maybe a bit more ) . so 2.5% of 30k is 750. , + u also regen mana ( mp5) when u are casting the shields , so theoretically if u shield 5 persons and rapture procs on all 5, you have used 3330 mana and you gained 750x5=3750mana + your own mana regen (mp5), so u end u having more mana after u shielded 5 persons.
from my point of view , the disc priest in 25 man raids has the best mana pool , u can never go oom if u know how to play it. ( aaahh... and mana hymn + totem = a lot of mana back , also u got beast to regen mana. As an example , at 6.2k gs on ICC25 LK normal , you dont have to use the beast , you should be able to regen mana from rapture and hymn+totem )

I made it very clear, and even said it again down the bottom... and even infact said what you just said and agreed it was good... so you must just be simple I guess... Let me spell it out for you yet again... I am specifically referring to priests who claim they not only get MORE mana back then they SPEND, but DRAMATICALLY MORE mana back... For example, several priests claim they can get 10-20k mana back doing this trick, while only spending like 6k... which is clear and obvious bull****, and hence my post. I am trying to get to the bottom of it.

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Originally Posted by condo23

but late in game at about 6k gs in 25 man raids u gonna have around 30k mana buffed ( maybe a bit more ) . so 2.5% of 30k is 750. , + u also regen mana ( mp5) when u are casting the shields , so theoretically if u shield 5 persons and rapture procs on all 5, you have used 3330 mana and you gained 750x5=3750mana + your own mana regen (mp5), so u end u having more mana after u shielded 5 persons.
from my point of view , the disc priest in 25 man raids has the best mana pool , u can never go oom if u know how to play it. ( aaahh... and mana hymn + totem = a lot of mana back , also u got beast to regen mana. As an example , at 6.2k gs on ICC25 LK normal , you dont have to use the beast , you should be able to regen mana from rapture and hymn+totem )

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Thats fine, like i mentioned you get some back much later, not enough to warrent a damn, but there are priests out there claiming they drown in mana because of this and I personally cannot see how... like to the degree where they purposefully use weak shields just for the break.

You believe such bull**** and call me simple, damn.