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You're seriously underestimating my dislike for dealing with people and their bull****.
There's a club that fills up with hot, easy, drunk chicks literally across the street from home, and my thoughts are of the place going up in blazes so they will shut up and let me sleep.
Well yeah but the reality from your country is also different from the reality I'm talking about. It's a completely different environment (been there, I know how it is). I'm the guy that hates almost every single club in Portugal. I love the swedish clubs from that place and I love the environment around them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obnoxious
Your experience also changes when you have access to other zones of the floors. You have your own quiet and relaxed little world but you still delight your sight. That's the only thing I'm trying to say here. I'm not disregarding your personal taste or opinion. Saying that you hate it without being there and seeing it seems off to me. It's the same thing as eating or drinking something that you've never tasted - If you're going to jump to the conclusion that you hate it right from the start you might be wasting a good thing.
Then you're also forgetting I'm 39. I'm pretty confident I know myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by magaginho
what if someone just dislikes night clubs because of the disgisting mainstream music and because its ridden with pathetic people that get drunk/high to have fun and get laid easily with some stranger
That's why some people like to get drunk, high, and laid easily at home. Usually doesn't cost you as much eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by TheSkiller
The age doesn't directly translate to an answer in that regard. I work with people in the industry that are 50+ and make the environment really good for the older audience. However, you're more than free of having your opinion. That's not what I was trying to insinuate with my statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obnoxious
You're the one applying that vision to the way that clubs work. I've worked in nightclubs for more than 10 years now and I can ensure you that I've seen everything. From heavy drugs to no drugs allowed. From entering the club with your own booze and without any sort of booze. From EDM to Country.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkiller
You're the one that seeks that kind of environment by entering the wrong clubs. There is a different club for everything out there. I'm forced to see the clubs as a professional place and I have no issues with it whatsoever. I've seen everything, I've laughed at multiple awkward situations and I've cringed at many others. This happens in every job anyways.
Exactly this. That's a problem that comes from society itself and not from the place itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasumii
Actually, it does, when I know my tastes, likes and dislikes, and have known them for enough decades for them to be pretty solid for certain things.Quote:
Originally Posted by magaginho
While you can say that what Skiller points out "comes from society, not the place"... isn't the point of going to the place the "society" in there? I can have music, booze and one specific woman at my place, without the need for clubbing.
Like I've stated above; You are more than free of having your opinion and your position regarding those clubs. I understand it and I respect it. However, what I usually tell people is that they shouldn't deny a topic as a whole just because you don't like it as it is. You never know how things can go from now on, your life can suffer a major twist and you might start enjoying something that you used to hate. That was from where I was coming from right from the start. Plus, a new experience once in a while, keeps you from being sedentary. At least that's the way I see it. I might be wrong and life might teach me a thing or two but, honestly, I don't want to change under that regard. I like to live my life freely and with new experiences and journeys in mind. We're all different for a reason, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Obnoxious
Not really. What moves me to clubs is the fact that I love what I do and I love to entertain people. I don't really care if they're drugging themselves, if they're getting drunk, if they're getting laid. I'm doing my own thing and living in my little word for that moment. Like you mentioned, you go to a place because of the "society" if you're searching for something out of it. If you're going to enjoy yourself or the company of your group of friends or wife you don't care about the others around you. You care about your own enjoyment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obnoxious
I do agree with you that there are people in the clubs filled with bad intentions. I also agree that some people going around those clubs are all people that are just seeking for attention. But I also consider extremely unfair the generalization that people like to do about some of the workers out there and I think you know exactly what I'm meaning with this.
That's pretty much like saying "you don't know you don't like having a guy up your *** until you try it." I'm not interested in a hairy chest scrubbing my back and don't feel the need to try it to be able to say so.Quote:
Originally Posted by magaginho
That's the part you don't seem to understand: my enjoyment lies away from such places.Quote:
Originally Posted by magaginho
So you're saying I should put up with an annoying environment/"society" because of the tiny rare exceptions? Doesn't sounds very enjoyable.Quote:
Originally Posted by magaginho
no one cares or talks about the employees unless some moron gets kicked out by a bouncer and he hates him for doing his job or something similar, but otherwise its a job like any else.
its just a hole filled with rats that have nothing to do in their lives worth mentioning and are looking to mate with each other
Hey, I've seen some people starting with less. Not part of my intentions though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obnoxious
I get that and I respect that at 100%. I'm just saying that you never know if your thought will be permanent. It's the same thing as weddings; They're planned to be forever but then divorces happen. Possibilities exist for a reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obnoxious
No, not at all. I'm just saying that when people generalize every single person that works in the area, they're failing to understand that there are many people out there with values, education and beliefs. They're just included on the "pack of thrash" that, if you think about it, exists in every single profession. The issue is that clubs are still kinda of a taboo. At least some of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obnoxious
May life never kick you into one of those jobs then. You remind me some people that stated that they would never submit themselves to one of those jobs as a bartender or something like that and they got dragged into it. Now they feel pathetic for saying such things - There are good people and good professional in those areas. Ignoring them, generalizing them and point and blank insult them won't take you anywhere. If anything, just shows how insecure you are about yourself. If you were to be secure about yourself you wouldn't take that hatred thowards people that are just trying to make their jobs happen and some of them with passion.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkiller
I can tell you that I've seen people that gain 100x more than me in those clubs and behaving like true ladies and gentlemen. Like I've mentioned: There is a ridiculous ammount of clubs out there. It's just a question of finding the right place and have the right mood for it. Hell, I work in clubs but you'll also see me in a mosh pit kicking someone in the face. It's all about your mood.
LOL I literally just said no one talks about the employees and that its a job like any else, its not taboo at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by magaginho
clubs arent hated for their bartenders or models standing outside luring people in, no one cares about them.
Nor did I hint there was any intention. The point is just that you don't necessarily have to experiment something to not be interested in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by magaginho
The problem here is you seem to be taking it personally. No one is talking about the staff. People usually don't go to clubs looking up to trying to hook up with people working there. Even if that might happen, that's not what leads people to clubs in the first place, at least. The staff doesn't comes into consideration for my dislike of clubbing.Quote:
Originally Posted by magaginho
As long as they get paid, does it really matter if they're cared for?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkiller