ulduar loot boxes cost 24 000 honor each some combine loot from 4 bosses others only have drops from 2 bosses but they all cost the same
in naxx grouping by quarters made some sense because the amount of bosses were pretty even across sections frostwing only had sapphiron and kt got its own box those boxes had different costs and rating requirements that matched the gear value
for ulduar it is different the antechamber box costs the same as the siege box but antechamber has two bosses and siege has four
on hard mode the antechamber box only has iron council items but still costs the full amount and the hard mode siege box only has loot from two bosses
the hard mode keepers box has loot from four bosses still they all cost the same honor
blackrock players need something crazy like 400 000 honor per week to even have a chance to get the same gear onyxia players get from 3 hours of raiding per week
that amount is impossible to farm every week without playing 24 hours per day or botting which is likely going to increase now
the lootbox system needs a rework more thought should go into how they are priced and if they are grouped then in what way
some suggestions
dont group bosses by zones make one box per boss and price each one based on the loot inside
after buying the normal mode boxes once or twice let players buy the hard mode boxes directly otherwise this doubles the honor cost every week for items no longer needed. onyxia players do not need clear the content each week to get hard mode items.they run hard mode and get both normal and hard mode items from every boss they dont need to do every boss twice every week just to get access to hardmode items they can get it immediately week 1 if they are good pve players with basic weakauras and reaction times and cooperation skill
reduce he honor cost of the boxes to be same as the naxxramas eye of eternity obsidian sanctum boxes were.
these changes would help keep progressive blackrock active
if this system is left the way it is then only a small number of players with lots of free time will stay on the realm
only the players who were part of 0.5 percent that got gladiator or duelist who are unemployed will keep playing and everyone else will quit to play onyxia or tbc classic anniversary or some other game
please change these lootboxes system. everybody hates it and wants to quit the game now.just talk to the average player on Blackrock seasonal and u will hear what they think about this system
there is a mistake in my post but i cant edit. obviously i meant ony players dont have to do all bosses twice every week to get hardmode item. on blackrock now we have to pay twice to get hardmode item every week. that is not progression that is hard stuck normal but just paying twice as much honor needed only to get chance to get hard mode items. we should only have to buy normal mode items once or twice then buy hard mode items only. in naxx u could even skip straight to sapphiron and kt after some weeks but on blackrock u still needed to buy all previous lootbox to unlock kelthuzad lootbox. pls dont force us to pay 2x honor every week when we only need hard mode item and normal mode chest useless but cost the same
The lootbox system has been broken since they came up with it in TBC. Requiring INSANE demand for honor farming to keep up. It has only gotten worse as the seasons/expansions have gone. I used every naxx 25 key from start of season to end of season and didnt get Betrayer or the bracers i was looking for. All of that honor and time completely down the drain. It must be extended April Fool's because there is NO way they expect blackrock to farm that much honor for CHANCES of getting gear they can even equip. They spoke of "Unfair Advantage" to Onyxia, and at this point its absolutely laughable. Season 8 blackrock has a great system with each item requiring honor/rating to obtain, why not stick with that? Either way, the current prices OR the overall model MUST change. Absurd.
Up.
But they dont care. There are plenty of threads on this topic (e.g. https://forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=484216). Either they dont respond, or they delete the replies and lock the threads. Onyxia players kills UD in ~3hrs and Blackrock has to farm 280k honor weekly for boxes (S5 was 70-100k and event that was an overkill).
Agreed.
Think the 25 normal chests all the way down is 136k and 10man a little less. some may need to farm both meaning about 250k per week which is just unsustainable.
Either they should cost between 5k-15k (max 20k for hard mode) or at these prices, the boxes should not be locked in a chain and allow you to pick which one you want if you have the rating.
Im glad to see some responses but sad to not see any response from warmane.this problem needs to be address very soon or more and more ppl will just quit or continue to make problem with botting and afk in bg worse. 3v3 is dead already and its slower to complete 3v3 daily quest than it is to just lose in rbg.the honor per hour as horde player on Blackrock seasonal is miserable,maybe make mercenary mode more fair or put onyxia players in their own rbg bracket and let br players face only br players and u will fix half of the problems with bg already.these lootbox need to be decrease in cost its rly bad.so so so bad. make more 3v3v hour and on onyxia too?to help make quest easier.onyxia make all bg horrible especially for horde,its like torture to play 20 bg in one day and lose 15 of them because all onyxia players are with green gear from quest and queue rbg and all alliance player are from blackrock now with full hateful. U made gear difference between fresh ony player and fresh br player WAYTOO big now with update to start gear.blackrock should not have full epic starter after 3 months of realm and have boxes cost 400k honor per week for ppl who need item from hardmode vezax10 and 25......who made this decision doesnt play the game.its obvious this wasnt given any thought and just looks very lazy
UP, 300k honor each week for alle bosses is just too much. Not even possible to sustain one character let alone play alts. Please not kill blackrock seasonal completly.
You actually have a choice of a 24k honor box or 30k honor box, because the normal and hardmode options use the same key, you dont need to buy both options. For example siege of ulduar is 24k on normal or 30k for the hardmode. Either option allows you to progress with the next key.
So its not as expensive as 300k per week as you think.
BUT... i still completely agree 155k for the entire run including hardmode bosses is ludicrous. 30k honor requires about 5 hours of farming per day or 25 hours per week for the full 150k. Whereas on onyxia it takes 5 hours for a pve guild to fully complete ulduar. Its disproportionately unfair.
I know so many friends that would love to play S6 who are completely disincentivised because of the honor grind. Its a real shame. I hope something can be done to encourage more people to play.
You actually have a choice of a 24k honor box or 30k honor box, because the normal and hardmode options use the same key, you dont need to buy both options. For example siege of ulduar is 24k on normal or 30k for the hardmode. Either option allows you to progress with the next key.
So its not as expensive as 300k per week as you think.
BUT... i still completely agree 155k for the entire run including hardmode bosses is ludicrous. 30k honor requires about 5 hours of farming per day or 25 hours per week. Whereas on onyxia it takes 5 hours for a pve guild to fully complete ulduar. Its disproportionately unfair.
I know so many friends that would love to play S6 who are completely disincentivised because of the honor grind. Its a real shame. I hope something can be done to encourage more people to play.
are u telling me i wasted all honor on normal boxes and now i cant buy hard mode box when i finish buying all normal.......? are u serious
ok so i bought hardmode box and u only get 1 hardmode item from box.there are 2 hardmode bosses in siege of ulduar leviathan and xt but u only get 1 hardmode item.there are 2 hardmode bosses in descent into madness general vezax and yogg saron but u only get 1 hardmode item from this box. onyxia get 1 hardmode item from every boss so 2 boss box should give two hardmode item.warmane this is a scam.what are u thinking?????PLEASE FIX!!!!
i just buy keeper hardmode box and that is 5 bosses auriaya normal,freya hard,hodir hard,thorim hard,mimiron hard,and what do i get.only 4 item and 1 hard mode item.scammed