Good for you btw nobody asked or care. And BG? BG here are dead.......ally side to long que and horde side..well lets put silence on that part. Assa is crap becouse Envenom is bugged, becouse talents for poison are bugged and becouse mastery for Assa is bugged. So yes its crap. Sub is end game gear tree for pvp.
But who caress about BG on molten? Arena lvl is quite low and BG? BG are total bull****. But have fun trying to do combat pvp.
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MalalGuest
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You care, because you posted and you keep posting. I don't understand what you mean, since I do BGs all day every day. Horde are bad. So what? Sounds like you're just QQing, but oh well... never expected otherwise from someone like you... I'm not trying - I'm doing Combat PvP and I feel much better with Combat than a broken Assa or a Sub, which is bullcrap when SDance is on CD.
So keep telling me how Combat is bad and keep QQing and telling me how you don't care at the same time, please...
And by the way this is a Combat PvE thread, if you don't have anything to post on topic, you'd do good to not post at all. Thanks!
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Member
I do not know what you just calculated >.<, but what I am asking is, does mastery stack additively, multiplicatively or some weird asss calculation blizzard came up with.
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In all combat guides I have read MH is supposed to be 2.60 and OH is 1.40
Does OH speed preferably have to be 1.40?
Why is that?
There is a nice axe available for JP but its speed is 1.80. But it is better than the 1.40 rdf hc dagger i have.
Any take on this?
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You would want to have a fast offhand because of Combat Potency. That's why 1.4 is better than 1.8 offhand in the long term even if the 1.8 has better stats.
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Tbh I tried looking this up & I couldn't find a clear answer.
Regarding the calculation, HPM is hits per minute. I divided the MG procs by the total main hand hits. The result is the % proc chance of MG.
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Color of the blood is the answer.
All buffs and mod. values in cata go like 1x2x3x4x5=OP
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JusticerrGuest
also faster OH for more deadly poison procs
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Does the main gauche-mastery bug still work??
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JusticerrGuest
yes. and I doubt it will get fixed soon or even at all.
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Bumping, since it still hasn't been added to the Guide section. Hope it's useful and informative.
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Hey taralej, love this guide!
Can't you put together a combat/sub pvp guide for 4.0.3?
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There are far better Sub rogues out there than me, I kinda suck at it (not like it's not my current PvP spec though). I mean I know all the tricks, gearing and stuff, but I just can't get into its flow, so I can give you all the basic info you need, but when it comes to tactics I'd fail.
I've been thinking of making a Combat PvP guide for Cata though.
Thanks for the feedback. Appreciated, mate!
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hello there, Rec. it's me, Safu/Ea. I am not so often on forums but I would like to point few things out. Despite my attempts I am unable to report everything I want on bug tracker.
Firstly I must note that this guide is specifically designed under molten bugs. That why i would recommend noting that more often once even few of the bugs are fixed not only combat will be rendered useless (look below for bugs ill be talking about) but most of current BiS gear too.
About bugs I want to mention before all - hit. For some reason, exactly 8% of hit (summary with talent) is nowhere near enough for hit cap. A solid 9+% is what i recommend. And also, currently I would suggest making hit third stat after agi and mastery.
Second, biggest and most difficult bug not mentioned - haste. I cannot say how exactly haste is done on molten cata, but benefits it offers are in some cases insignificant and even negative.
I cannot confirm this without really whole length video with documentations, but haste does not offer as much additional energy regen as it should, and even less for combat spec. Secondly, at some ranges of haste it drops effectiveness of main gauche. This leads not to just reforging haste on gear, but even trying to avoid it on gear. To sum haste up - it is only beneficial in BIG amounts that do not actually hurt other stats. Means on current levels of gear - should be avoided as much as possible.
A word of glyphs - with bugs SS glyph is trivial, use evi glyph over it. Revealing strike and killing spree glyph i cannot confirm working.
Now - rotation and dps. About rupture - as much as it seems underpowered due to bugs and overall - in some cases (like bosses you cant be on with 100% uptime) it can contribute much more than evi if used under right conditions like at the end of strong buffs. Killing spree is good for a fast start with poison stacking but should be used with extreme care as it can not only kill user but quite possibly wipe a raid (and not working immunity in KS contributes to that). And here comes the downfall - at present conditions and bugs I can confirm only good dk and really outstanding feral tanks to be able to hold aggro infinitely even with ToT and feint(and i am not sure threat part of feint works as it should). Vanish is not always an option and is better suited for forcing recharge on pot during time you cant be on boss. Halfus and Omni are the most dangerous in this.
Savage combat debuff part not working so a frost dk is nice to have for that.
Well this ends pretty much what i could remember about pve combat. Though I will notice once again that this is a gamble with molten fixing. If more people would go and report bugs and up them, would be really nice.
And as a last word - future will be for the sub rogues. So you better go and start practicing that insane sub pve rotation.
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GriefelGuest
Please stop posting "your own ideas" about what you think the caps should be without some made tests and or explanations showing you actually have a point. I mean why would you want 9% hit cuz you like the letter 9 more than 8 or why? offer some explanation othewise you might just get flagged for spam.
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