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[Snoxxy]

We messed up once in the game, and that let them get an inhib. If our three other players weren't useless and actually stepped off the platform to 3v4 under our turrets, it would have given Shen and I time to rez to clean up and win the game.

Have you even played AD Nidalee? It's not a glass cannon.

Ruined King > Phantom Dancer > TriForce > Mercurial Scimitar > Spirit Visage

You aren't squishy at all, and the amount of LS you get is ridiculous. I was able to 1v2 a Yi and Zed that both ulted me just because of the LS off my Q in Cat Form was healing me for about 20% of my hp because it was critting for ~1400s, and my autos were critting for just over half of that.

Imagine that damage with my 1.71 attack speed, over 2.2 with the buff from my E.


Running with boots of swiftness (+60 movement speed with the +15 speed double upgrade, I was able to keep up with a Yi that had his ult up, and I was able to surpass him with my Ws in Cat Form.


By being able to keep up with literally everyone, not only are you able to keep up your massive pressure, but you're able to keep up your healing from lifesteal.


If you play AD Nidalee right and actually lay traps EVERYWHERE, you're able to 1shot someone with a cat form combo (W>E>Q), and on the rare occassion that that doesn't kill them, you can go back into human form and get 1 auto plus a Q off for the kill.


HotshotGG said it himself -- there really isn't a counter to AD Nidalee ingame.

[Trane]

We messed up once in the game, and that let them get an inhib. If our three other players weren't useless and actually stepped off the platform to 3v4 under our turrets, it would have given Shen and I time to rez to clean up and win the game.

Have you even ever played AD Nidalee? It's not a glass cannon.

Ruined King > Phantom Dancer > TriForce > Mercurial Scimitar > Spirit Visage

You aren't squishy at all, and the amount of LS you get is ridiculous. I was able to 1v2 a Yi and Zed that both ulted me just because of the LS off my Q in Cat Form was healing me for about 20% of my hp because it was critting for ~1400s, and my autos were critting for just over half of that.

Imagine that damage with my 1.71 attack speed, over 2.2 with the buff from my E.

The build you just said was BOTRK, PD, and BT. That is glass canon.

That is a different build, but you are still squishy. Its also a really ****ing expensive build.

No, I haven't. I'm knowledgeable enough to know that AD Nidalee is terrible and bruiser Nidalee is far more better, especially when you are split pushing. Also, that build will do 0 damage to a bruiser that will be able to out duel you.

But that build you said is just bad in so many ways. You get 0 armor. If they get an ADC with decent farm and a couple of good items, they will 3 shot you instantly. Nidalee getting the resist nerfs to Cougar Form made her even more squishy. You are just throwing in expensive *** items, one which is the most expensive in the game, into a build. If you aren't snowballing, you will fall behind because the item paths aren't that strong for her. She won't spike till she completes an item.

You can only have a few core items for every champion. You can't just always have this certain item build for every game. You can have BOTRK or Triforce as your core then you adapt your build accordingly. Build to what you are playing against in the game. Not just the same thing over and over again.

If you play AD Nidalee right and actually lay traps EVERYWHERE, you're able to 1shot someone with a cat form combo (W>E>Q), and on the rare occassion that that doesn't kill them, you can go back into human form and get 1 auto plus a Q off for the kill.

Or you know, people can just ward up accordingly and not let you do that at all. That is, if you are just camping in a bush waiting to pick someone off.

If you can get the source of HSGG saying that, cool.
If anything, he said that about bruiser Nidalee when he used to go Mogs, Triforce, Atma's, which was broken as **** back then.

Hotshot isn't anything special anymore, anyway. Stanley probably had a better Nidalee than Hotshot ever had. Especially, when Stanley brought it back into the scene during Worlds.

And, there is a counter to everything in this game. AD Nidalee would get destroyed by Vayne. I don't even. That's just one counter. There is way more than just that but I won't name them all.

[Sigurd]

I don't like when people are forcing mainstream champion builds. Like there exists just a single viable item composition and play style for every hero... And Riot is helping that, they act as they're trying to throw out everything that ain't meta.

[Grymninja]

People typing Fiery sized essays about LoL, and I'm just like...

[Trane]

I don't like when people are forcing mainstream champion builds. Like there exists just a single viable item composition and play style for every hero... And Riot is helping that, they act as they're trying to throw out everything that ain't meta.

Not really true at all. Lol.

Want an example? Vayne.
People build BOTRK or BT on her. Why? Because they are really ****ing good for her.
If you want to duel and split push more, you go BOTRK.
Want to have a more team fight build, you go BT.
Of course, you are going to get PD or Shiv, because that helps amplify your damage. Riot doesn't enforce that on to us. That's just the best way to get the most damage out on that champion. Then, you get your Last Whisper. Why? Because as the ADC, you are going to hit whatever you can that is in front of you that is also disruptive. Most of the time those will be the tanks, and what do tanks have? High resistances, health, and disruptiveness.
These are core builds. They aren't forced on to us. You see Imp rushing a PD on her sometimes. It's all preference. He eventually will get a BT OR BOTRK/LW. Because its just too good to pass up.


Play style varies. Of course you have to play a champion a certain way.

If you play Evelynn, you are playing an assassin. What do assassins do? Assassinate the back line. That's what all assassins are best at. Deleting someone from the game, preferably the carries or a support. Assassins can kill a tank but at the expense of blowing your CDs on the tank and not on a more damaging threat.
Assassins can also roam and pick people off. We have that style with a certain champion because that's how the champion was designed.
I mean, you can try to play Evelynn as a mid line and peel for your carries, but does that really work? She doesn't have any hard CC to peel for the back line and it's not what shes best at. Its more beneficial for the team for Evelynn to do her role as an assassin and get to the back line, disrupt them, and try to assassinate them.
Building Evelynn as a tank isn't any where as good as building her as an assassin.
Can you build Evelynn as a tank? Sure. Is it better than building her as a assassin? Not really.
It's not as viable because that's not her design to be a tank.


Riot isn't enforcing anything. Not as much as the pros that have influence on this game in terms of strategy and champion picks.
We as players just don't have that many different options to build. That doesn't mean its because Riot is enforcing this certain item build. Certain things work and that's because that is the best way to do it. Also, like I said, we don't have many options. That is on Riots part to make new items and not nerf the ones we have.

[Snoxxy]

The build you just said was BOTRK, PD, and BT. That is glass canon.

That is a different build, but you are still squishy. Its also a really ****ing expensive build.

No, I haven't. I'm knowledgeable enough to know that AD Nidalee is terrible and bruiser Nidalee is far more better, especially when you are split pushing. Also, that build will do 0 damage to a bruiser that will be able to out duel you.

But that build you said is just bad in so many ways. You get 0 armor. If they get an ADC with decent farm and a couple of good items, they will 3 shot you instantly. Nidalee getting the resist nerfs to Cougar Form made her even more squishy. You are just throwing in expensive *** items, one which is the most expensive in the game, into a build. If you aren't snowballing, you will fall behind because the item paths aren't that strong for her. She won't spike till she completes an item.

You can only have a few core items for every champion. You can't just always have this certain item build for every game. You can have BOTRK or Triforce as your core then you adapt your build accordingly. Build to what you are playing against in the game. Not just the same thing over and over again.


Or you know, people can just ward up accordingly and not let you do that at all. That is, if you are just camping in a bush waiting to pick someone off.

If you can get the source of HSGG saying that, cool.
If anything, he said that about bruiser Nidalee when he used to go Mogs, Triforce, Atma's, which was broken as **** back then.

Hotshot isn't anything special anymore, anyway. Stanley probably had a better Nidalee than Hotshot ever had. Especially, when Stanley brought it back into the scene during Worlds.

And, there is a counter to everything in this game. AD Nidalee would get destroyed by Vayne. I don't even. That's just one counter. There is way more than just that but I won't name them all.

Well yeah, that's a relatively no armor build. Their teams ADC Yi was god awful and almost never touched me, while I was able to global him. The rest of their team was all AP, hence the MS.

If I was going up against an AD heavy team, I'd probably trade the TriForce for Iceborn Gauntlets. I can play adaptively to the game that I'm in, you know. Especialy early game, if the Zed was really good as was putting out as much poke as a good Zed should, I'd have went AP instead of AD, but since he fed over and over, I decided to keep with my new AD build. I'm competent enough to adapt to different situations.

If I ran into a Vayne toplane, which is very rare because 99% of them play bot with support, I'd end up going AP. Better poke, more early game control, and a damn strong support/poke late game.

No amount of wards will keep me from landing traps during fights. They may prevent people from running into them early game for gank attempts, but they won't stop them mid to late game.

I've only played like 3 games now as AD Nidalee, but I can basically tell my best core items would be BotRK and Phantom Dancer, along with either a TriForce or Iceborn Gauntlets. The rest can be changed around.



Like I've said before, I'm not the best League player, and I'm still pretty new to the game. I'm just working with things that I've noticed working.


I'll find Hotshot's vid after I get home from work.

[Soroboru]

I don't like when people are like "well this famous player says this, so it's law, he's the expert, there's no other way to play"
Like people who don't play rogues in MoP just because big youtube famous rogues aren't liking how they're doing, so suddenly they're not viable in any form.

Damnoriginal, I played AoE II so much, mostly on Arena or Black Forest because I was a noob and loved all the prebuilt defenses. But one time in a 2 hour LAN match on the arena map (giant) with a friend I silently chopped with three inconspicious villagers all around the surrounding forest and built a siege workshop and completely wrecked his place from his backdoor, never expected it. oh so victorius. I was a proud kid.

[Trane]

If I ran into a Vayne toplane, which is very rare because 99% of them play bot with support, I'd end up going AP. Better poke, more early game control, and a damn strong support/poke late game.

It's not about running into a top lane Vayne. I'm not talking about the laning phase.
If a Vayne goes top to prevent your split pushing, she will kill you.

I know you are new. It's good that you are experimenting with things.
But PD is terrible on Nid. She is fine with BOTRK and then you can go into Frozen Fist if you want.
PD just isn't that good on her compared to another item that can make her more beefy.

[Sigurd]

You took my words a bit too literally. Actually you seem to take game too seriously. They are trying to remove anything that is different from the pattern, Karma, the old Twitch, AP Yi, Ryze's full mana build... Removing fun from game. I can adapt, I'm still raping asses with Twitch as always but it's not the same.

Playing everything perfectly will reward victory and satisfaction, I like it too. I just prefer to have fun even if I'm losing a game.

[Snoxxy]

It's not about running into a top lane Vayne. I'm not talking about the laning phase.
If a Vayne goes top to prevent your split pushing, she will kill you.

I know you are new. It's good that you are experimenting with things.
But PD is terrible on Nid. She is fine with BOTRK and then you can go into Frozen Fist if you want.
PD just isn't that good on her compared to another item that can make her more beefy.

The only reason I liked PD was for the movement speed and attack speed. Two spears a second each hitting for ~15% of someone's health pool, plus DoTs from traps and a Q spear is OP as hell.

[Gabrantus]

Don't do that. You don't want it finding out about your secret relationship with the pseudo nihilist stone-cold rock emo monk, do you?

But I don't have any. I'm a pure virgin who is even untained by relationships. My pillow will surely embrace me with great love.

I don't like when people are forcing mainstream champion builds. Like there exists just a single viable item composition and play style for every hero... And Riot is helping that, they act as they're trying to throw out everything that ain't meta.

Same here. People are always complaining when I'm trying to device new and creative ways to play, even if they are admittably over-the-top sometimes.

There's no point in a strategy if it's totally predictable. Every time I play LoL with my friend, he can tell exactly what every enemy champion is going to do, what lanes they will go to, and so on. And it almost always happens. Most of the matches where my team has gotten totally rekt has been a match where an opponent is doing something unexpected.


Now start discussing real strategy games.

[Shiina]

C&C3: Tiberium Wars

[Orphic]

Call of Dity r1 stratuji gaem huehje

[Grymninja]

Risk 2 OP strategy.

[Orphic]

Risk is strategy. At first.

Then, after the first eight hours, I end up strategizing how to end the ****ing game already.