Current Status of BGs(let's say pug BGs):
Horde that doesn't know what INC, DEFF and CC means mostly and Face Roll allys 80% made of Warrs, Huntards and DKs most of the time. :D :cool:
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Current """"PvP"""" Status (not a serious discussion)
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If we're talking about pugs same happens on alliance side when facing atleast 1 horde premade.
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I really wish Horde loses more. So re-rollers to alliance would keep on coming. and increase they're BG que. and maintain Horde's instant ques :D. It's also a natural act of "Balance" to weed out those kind of players from a Faction and its basically like dumping our garbage right at stormwind. Here allys.. More newbs XD. The more newb Horde re-roll Alliance, Alliance will start losing and Horde will dominate.
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Dominate normal bgs, which no one cares about. Reroll ally how many of u want, we still play premades and we still own u in rateds.
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Woot woot lol
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shots fired!
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Gz on your first wins (after wintrading) on Sargeras!!!
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no1 gives a f*ck about bgs or rateds...
they will both die as soon as arenas are implemented
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Ofcourse, but until then, ppl still play rateds.
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First wins?
Dude u have no idea what you are talking about.
Ask relax bro and rogues, anarchy, guardians, sis kebab, pugs etc and than u speak something. Now u can just trashtalk and speak nonsenses. Haters gonna hate.
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Havent played on the Alliance side, so cannot really comment there, but as far as Horde is concerned: never ever should you even consider joining a random BG without a premade.
The likelyhood of you recieving someone undergeared (or even gearless completely) non-vocal and not aware of their class playstyle or BG objectives is extremely high. While my experience is, of course subjective, very rarely does it actually happen that you have one single pug who is capable of defending a node (which doesnt mean soloing X people, but calling in time for someone at the next node to be able to arrive).
Even as a 5man premade it is possible to lose - in Battlegrounds such as EoTs or AB, pugs often tend to follow your premade regardless of where it goes, resulting in the team being focused on one base. And there isnt really much you can do - telling them not to follow does not work, changing the area you focus on will just result in them following and spliting your premade will end up in two players facing five Alliance players.
And this doesnt just concern BG objectives. Even on the scoreboard you can see insane differences between the dmg/healing output of pug players and players from a premade. Hell Ive seen our Warlock outheal a pug healer in WSG (without a particularly high gear level).
So yea, I suggest just teaming up with friends whom you know have a basic idea of how to play their class and when to focus on BG targets. Itll make Horde BGs seem a lot less hopeless, if only by taking up spots on your team that would have been taken by the random afker or person just freshly joining a BG after making the character.
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Sh't people on both sides.
Mediocre people on both sides.
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Beep, Honestly I miss Tiago who had the right approach to play rateds. He wanted to play even when you guys were losing, so you could practice or improve. It seems like it's gonna be the same with you now. You will be playing rateds only until you lose one game and you will be afraid to play more, just like it was today. But it's alright, we will get you anyway.
I know that right now you would write that you won 2 rateds against us while we beat you in only one, but thats exactly my point. We lost 2 rateds against you, we qued for the 3rd one and you lost that one and realized that you got smashed so heavily there is no point of playing anymore.
Now you would just say that you had no healers and no dps or something like that, which was your standard excuse for months while you had 35-40 people online at a time. But it doesnt matter either.
Just so you guys don't want to argue with me too much I need to say that your new guild is probably going to be the best on ally side, but I really hope that you change your attitude to playing rateds and you won't be afraid to que without the top team or after single loss.
Cheers
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U know vs who u played last night?
That was tryout group nothing much, I hope you will be online when our core group ques for rated :)
And yes, I dont want to que vs you guys or vs relax without core. GG
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About bgs I can say a few things:
Firstly, it really depends on what time you enter a bg. Sometimes horde rules bgs (even w/o premades) and sometimes ally rules (even w/o being in premade). However, I do think that joining a bg as a premade increases your chance on winning quite a lot, even if you face another premade in the enemy's team. I know that "dumb" and "noob" players join bgs with bad to worst gear and I know that they actually are insignificant unfortunately, in a way that they can't do much like killing a flagger (because they deal low dmg) or can carry a flag (because they have low hp). I personally always try to carry flags by myself because I know I have enough survivability as mw monk and I'm pretty good geared compared to others.
OP also said that hordes (and ally surely too) don't know what CC or call inc means, but many of them actually do. They just forget to call for inc because they think like "I'll just manage it myself" or any other reason (I also think they're just too lazy for it or afraid to do it, since many little kids are very shy). About cc'ing enemies: many ppl don't know either HOW to cc with their class or WHO to cc. Everytime I see a healer most of the time I'm the only one who notices the healer or when I've told my team who's healer they target them. But it often happens that people just go for the kills on first horde they see, whether it's a healer or not. However, sometimes I don't get the reason when they run across the battlefield and see a player casting healing spells and they just ignore it and keep attacking their current target. I always try to either dps a healer or kite them, but since I'm a healer I think it's actually better for me to keep my allies alive instead of trying to kill healers.
About the variety of classes in bgs: I've seen tons of bgs in which are mostly like 5-6 different classes. The most common classes are warrs/hunts/locks. The cause of this problem is that many people heard that warrior/hunt/lock is kinda OP in some way and they use their instant lvlup tokens to make such a char. However, many of them are very unskilled and should actually play another class. Everytime I see a warr charging me I know in a few seconds if they are ******s or not, because the most ******s just charge > bloodbath > bladestorm and they're so stupid that they forget I can just roll away and avoid their dmg. Just wait till arena opens and we'll see how's really skilled (and I honestly think not many are 'very' skilled but just know how to cast macros for bursts).
