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Did icc 25n today.. log here: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/p.../0/?enc=bosses (Raila my war specced to enrage)
Enrage uptime 10% average from boss encounters.
Uptimes for each boss:
Spoiler:Show Edited: July 5, 2015
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Alright, just posted a report for Enrage and Owlkin Frenzy too.
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It's meant to proc from any direct hit. In ICC, this means Bonestorm (which incidentally also happens to proc a retalation auto-attack), Frostbolt Volley on LDW/VDW, BQL's Bloodbolts, Pain and Suffering during LK transition phases. Basically any mechanic in which your character is directly targeted by the boss' AI to be the victim of a damaging attack, regardless of whether said damaging attack also strikes other players. The main exception from this is environmental damage, such as damage from being in close proximity of a boss (Sindy's frost aura, BQL's Shroud of Sorrow), as well as mechanics that involve the boss placing an AoE on the ground, like Death and decay or Marrowgar Flames.
I looked it up a bit and there are these quotes left on Elitist Jerks from back in retail (http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic...wers/page-80):
Then there's also this, although it's only for first wing:http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic...1#entry1465592Enrage procs pretty well on LK fight, making it a very valuable talent if used correctly. Phase 1 just get some ghouls on you , phase 2 its almost always up from the pain and suffering (or phase 1.5 w/e you call it). Valkyr phase it does proc from defile (not really a thing you want), but it also procs from valkyr shadowbolts (and you should have a valkyr on you or 2 - just ask tanks to not taunt that one). Granted - it all asks for a bit of extra damage taken, but with easily 45k hp ICC buffed now, as long as your healers are aware it rarely is a problem - an worth the 10% dmg increase in most cases.
It would also be useful to dig up archived WoL parses of Fury Warriors specced into enrage and analyzing how high enrage uptime was back then in various ICC encounters.So I decided to test out enrage this week. I only put one point in it, however, I was not concerned with the damage increase so much as I was with the uptime. Here are the results.
25 man
Lord Marrowgar - 10 procs - 24.7% uptime
Lady Deathwhisper - 4 procs - 8.8% uptime
Deathbringer Saurfang - 0 procs - 0%
10 man
Lord Marrowgar - 7 procs - 17.5% uptime
Lady Deathwhisper - 4 procs - 16.1% uptime
Deathbringer Saurfang - 0 procs - 0%
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This guide is missing a pre-raid BiS list for the rich(Wodin's, Hellfrozen, etc), not so rich(Wodin's) and poor players(Only Dungeon/emblem gear).
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Hmmm, DarkenedHue has a point here, but clearly that cannot be the reason why most Warrs on Warmane pick a talent, which was considered near-useless on retail.
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useless is heroic fury unless ur movement suc , enrage is usefull but if u gonna end raids 9/12 or less u can make ur philosophy. I came here to comment a guide so firstly build with hf suc , 2ndly some tips are hardly outdated , and whut the fuk is term non-donor bis list if u peeps will think u cant get something then u wont example i had sm on my war b4 molten died and i didnt pay for it. 1more about enrage tell me its bad for sindi lk halion fights actually only ones which need some effort
ps i read only guide and last pageEdited: July 12, 2015
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This guide was written when you couldn't get any item ingame.
And Heroic Fury is far from being useless. It's highly recommended for fights like LDW, BPC and VDW. And has some situational uses on LMW, Gunship, Sindragosa and LK. I would always take it over a chance to get 2% extra dmg.
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Man it can be highly recomended if someone sh*t his pants panic and have mess in raid since i never had to use more than on cd intercept , on LDW u can push p1 with 1 wave of adds even on 25hc with good group ofc not pugs and , on marro if ur raid positiong is good still u dont need to use it more than on cd , cmon on gunship u have rockets which using even cancel bugged charge , on bpc as meele u are fuct anyway about vdw i ussually as warr was nukin aboms since there is many other classes which better control adds with their skills , on sindi u dont have blistering evry 10s and u charging in last phase to tombs would be stupid since u will w8 behind them anyway till evryone resets stacks and u can always intervene instead of using intercept about LK eh again if u panic and u dunno what to do than maybe hf could be usefull but if u know ur job its not neccesery and atleast for me its waste of talent point.
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Marrow saving out of position ppl gives your raid more dps. + allowes you higher uptime if lord charges to opposite sides of room during bonestorm. You have adds on ph2 on lady hc as well. I am top 5 thanks to this + nitro boots on bpc. On bql you sometimes have to group for link and get flames like 5s after. -> higher uptime. Dpsing aboms with fury, when you have insane aoe burst for suppresors + interrupt for blazing is poor decision (+ you can save yourself some dmg taken if you intercept after being clumsy and falling from air). On lk you can have defile and soon after tank moves boss because of viles... Shadow Traps on hc are also more often than 30s..
I agree with you that its not that good on normals, but it definitelly gives me more dps than a point in enrage on hc.
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M8 if ur raid position well u dont need to charge over whole room on marro , on lady to be above me in dps rangeds usually have to be all time on lady and in p2 u still no need to inter more than on cd. How intercept help on link+flames after?will u charge into meeles? Aoe potential is pala with stuns+glyph , for blazings u have destro speced lock , hunts ,boomie,pala,dk , war burst is for abo+worms. GL if u run so far from straps, same if u run with lk in p3. I always tanked it at throne.
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you cant influence what other ppl do unless you are leading the raid
ph2 -> intercept adds, kill them, intercept back to boss. killing adds takes like 10-15s
you run to get rid of link -> intercept to boss, dps 5s, run with flames -> intercept to boss
we dont raid with destro. aboms are last priority and fury is best at dealing with adds - I almost always top dps on vali (dk aoe is nowhere near fury cleave, hunts are bad at aoe + their job is to md + frost traps, paladins have 0 mobility + some of them go holy - I almost kill supresors before others even get into range)
you dont have to run that far, intercept has minimum range of 8y, you can be back faster than running 4y
well we rotate lk around the platform, so viles do not spawn on the same place and boomkins can safely typhoon them
Feel free not to use it if you find it useless for yourself, just dont expect everyone to agree with you. I find enrage almost useless on the other hand (measured uptime 10% during whole icc 25n -> just 1 run, but still..)
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In my opinion if u need to use so often intercept u have problem with movement , personally i never felt like i lost much dps which was big enaugh anyway, by runin back from adds which take like 2s ,u arent only 1 runin while linked and it dont force u to run to opposite side of room. If u run with lk in p3 i would suggest to check how much better is to tank it at throne and let tank just move little right or left u save dps and make soak and typhoon easier+ u have more space. Best adds burst will always be pala and i mean cc not aoe of this classes ,lock respec for stun is usefull , and u always want a dps with tank on abo and nobody else unless no adds. U can kill sups b4 others came but not on 25h.
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2s = 2-4 autoattacks, which can be worth over 60k dmg.
That might be a good idea.
We want all the dps on other adds first, abom only when everything else is already down.
They have 66k hp on 25hc -> my ww does 20-30k crits, cleave 15-20k -> ww, bt, 2 cleaves, mourne proc (3s) and there is almost nothing left of them (yes, cc is great, killing them fast is atleast as good though).
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I'm not sure how it look now since i just recovered my acc but b4 molt died u couldnt just ignore aboms since adds was bugged to many waves and still best choice for abo was war dk and 100 percent better to have palas which just hw and boom supps dead. Actually powerheal was much easier. And i dont think this 2s change alot if i ended ldw with 14k dps still 200gs from bis.
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