Unofficial recount of rated bg's / rbg's ! @ Amyza

[Kemii]

Oh, and a pvp guild can't claim to be top if they have not a single team in the top 20 arena teams. That is kind of against all sorts of logic :/

Ever miss old Sargeras? Where we actually had PvP back in the day.

[Aiovous]

Uhh, threads like this are borderline against the rules as they literally exist to create drama.

The old moderation team would have shut this thread down within 10 minutes of it being open. It's no surprise it became a flame-fest, and even if arbiterone removes all the responses, I can guarantee this thread will be flooded with more drama the second another guild vs guild rated BG happens.

I would like to remind you how your own guild brought an alt outside of guild, likely to make your comp better. If others do the same its against the rules, but when you do it, its not? That's the main issue here. Who's to say if you would have beat Anarchy Inc. without bringing that warlock? It's very unfair to criticize the other team when you have done the same yourself.

And quite frankly, you guys need to man up. A top pvp guild shouldn't be afraid to go against whatever players enemies bring. If they bring 9 randoms, 3 randoms, 1 random, should be irrelevant. When I ask horde for rated BG on horde (on MoP), I don't go around crying that they have to bring everyone from their guild. I tell them to do whatever they need to be the best team they can make. Grow a pair and do the same. Yes, my guild has been GY farmed because we took on people not only more skilled, but more geared. And you know what, we learned from those defeats, we didn't log our horde chars and make excuses.

Learn to lead by example, and maybe at least you will respect yourself, even if others won't. Sorry if that came out harsh, but you and Tdot both very badly needed the reality check. You come here and complain, thinking you can make no mistakes. You will never get better nor be respected if that is the attitude you play with.

Oh, and a pvp guild can't claim to be top if they have not a single team in the top 20 arena teams. That is kind of against all sorts of logic :/

To be honest, we all know that Fatality isn't actually a "thing" and will never be a thing. It was a moment that sparked up months ago that escalated due to my conviction for humor and their conviction to "prove something", which they haven't. And they won't, because they can't. They're just mediocre and that's ok. With that in mind there's really no value in teaching them how to behave professionally, because at the end of the day they're just another passing joke in another chapter of Molten history.

[-Notorious-]

Ever miss old Sargeras? Where we actually had PvP back in the day.

I don't know if you remember Sapz from Sargeras, me and him were good friends.

I remember I raged at him, and told him how **** Cata PvP was, and how superior MoP would be.

I still laugh at my naivete.
Sargeras pvp was easily the best I ever got. I play a lot on LK nowadays (Ragnaros) and honestly, I think Cata outshone even LK.

If I didn't have all my guildies on Frostwolf, I would totally play on my BiS hunter here, but alas, no time to play 3 expansions :(
One can only hope that one day MoP will get the PvP fixes it SO BADLY needs and I can enjoy pvp again :D

[TheWorldbreaker]

and maybe at least you will respect yourself, even if others won't. You will never get better nor be respected if that is the attitude you play with.

Fyi, the moment I log in-game I get whispered by many ppl to do premades with. Also, when i join a BG ppl start to /hail me considering that I am the best DK on horde side. I don't need to get any better since I consider myself the BEST player on Warmane (I'm not even kidding, sadly).

Oh, and a pvp guild can't claim to be top if they have not a single team in the top 20 arena teams. That is kind of against all sorts of logic :/

Using your logic, <Infected> isn't a top PvP guild since they don't have a single team in the top 20 arena teams either. Everyone knows you're fairly biased, so please stop trying to sound neutral.

[Kemii]

I don't know if you remember Sapz from Sargeras, me and him were good friends.

I remember I raged at him, and told him how **** Cata PvP was, and how superior MoP would be.

I still laugh at my naivete.
Sargeras pvp was easily the best I ever got. I play a lot on LK nowadays (Ragnaros) and honestly, I think Cata outshone even LK.

If I didn't have all my guildies on Frostwolf, I would totally play on my BiS hunter here, but alas, no time to play 3 expansions :(
One can only hope that one day MoP will get the PvP fixes it SO BADLY needs and I can enjoy pvp again :D

Lol of course I knew Sapz.
Damn guy wanted to learn to PvP, I mean he would go in BGs and just sit there and only kill the lowest geared person over and over, wouldn't care 1v1 me on my mage or DK.

I lost all hope in good PvP after Stormstout was lost :( Doing rateds all day everday was the best fun I've had since Vicious Season on Sarg.

[-Notorious-]

Fyi, the moment I log in-game I get whispered by many ppl to do premades with. Also, when i join a BG ppl start to /hail me considering that I am the best DK on horde side. I don't need to get any better since I consider myself the BEST player on Warmane (I'm not even kidding, sadly).

This is why you will never be a good player. If you "honestly" believe that, then there truly is no hope, and Aiovous is right. I actually thought you were trolling, but if that's the truth, then you will always be a **** player, and there's nothing to be done about it.

Using your logic, <Infected> isn't a top PvP guild since they don't have a single team in the top 20 arena teams either. Everyone knows you're fairly biased, so please stop trying to sound neutral.

All credit to Infected, but I was on Sargeras when they got started. They weren't impressing me then, and if they still have no players in the arena ladders, then I'm not impressed still. Sorry Amyza, you're a great guy (that much is clear), but you MUST have players in the top, otherwise you aren't a true pvp guild. As mentioned before PvP balance revovles around arenas, and if you aren't competing there, then there is much room for improvement.

As for my bias, I have never played with Aiovous, Dani, Bakuralord, or many people posting here.
When I moved to Frostwolf, almost all the players from Mad Company came with me (possibly because I disbanded guild :D).

I did play with Jackadin, and honestly, its no surprise you guys got graveyard camped by him. He was and (I'm sure) is still an excellent player. Yet he didn't show up until your recent rated, so that hardly counts.

[-Notorious-]

Lol of course I knew Sapz.
Damn guy wanted to learn to PvP, I mean he would go in BGs and just sit there and only kill the lowest geared person over and over, wouldn't care 1v1 me on my mage or DK.

I lost all hope in good PvP after Stormstout was lost :( Doing rateds all day everday was the best fun I've had since Vicious Season on Sarg.

He never really duelled so no surprise there, but he was an excellent player to have on your team :)

You can come to Frostwolf and make a team on Horde. I've made a promise to all horde players that I will make a team for Rated whenever I'm on, with whoever I find online. Sadly I can only play around midnight server time, so its been hard :/

[Kemii]

He never really duelled so no surprise there, but he was an excellent player to have on your team :)

You can come to Frostwolf and make a team on Horde. I've made a promise to all horde players that I will make a team for Rated whenever I'm on, with whoever I find online. Sadly I can only play around midnight server time, so its been hard :/

My Rated BG Team/Guild all quit.
Since we went Horde, our old enemy Is a Cookie/Supreme and DrunKz were on the same faction and no Alliance would que against us. (and I don't blame them honestly, we were 120-12 pre-moltdown)

Ahh well it was fun while it lasted.

RIP Stormstout.

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[TheWorldbreaker]

its no surprise you guys got graveyard camped by him. He was and (I'm sure) is still an excellent player. Yet he didn't show up until your recent rated, so that hardly counts.

Oh, I didn't even participate in that rated BG since i was banned in-game and i still am. Our main flag carrier (Horribull) didn't participate either. I highly doubt we would get graveyard camped if both of us had joined.

[-Notorious-]

My Rated BG Team/Guild all quit.
Since we went Horde, our old enemy Is a Cookie/Supreme and DrunKz were on the same faction and no Alliance would que against us. (and I don't blame them honestly, we were 120-12 pre-moltdown)

Ahh well it was fun while it lasted.

RIP Stormstout.

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Too bad I was working during old Stormstout (and am working again so can't play EU times when everyone is on qq).

Pretty excited for January when I get back to school for my last study term and get to play EU times again! (although, I think I have to actually study hard to pull that GPA up a bit... D:)

Oh, I didn't even participate in that rated BG since i was banned in-game and i still am. Our main flag carrier (Horribull) didn't participate either. I highly doubt we would get graveyard camped if both of us had joined.

I'm not overly sure how a flag carrier would prevent a graveyard camp, but sure, whatever works. I was going to argue with Aiovous how I had faith in you guys, but your post just destroyed virtually any faith I had in you actually getting good. I wish you the best of luck with whatever you plan to do :)

[Kirraq]

Infected actually does have some members in top100... Not top3 but ay.. Just sayin'
Its kinda easy to get on ladder since 100th is 2.1k.. If I gave enough shiet I could do it too... But me notata haveta gurthalaka to carry

Edit: Hopefully Warmane fixes Ally vs Ally RBGs.. For reasons.

[Kemii]

Too bad I was working during old Stormstout (and am working again so can't play EU times when everyone is on qq).

Pretty excited for January when I get back to school for my last study term and get to play EU times again! (although, I think I have to actually study hard to pull that GPA up a bit... D:)

I got a message off Cursed last night, made me miss my TSM bads so much. Celtzy was with us in EOE on Stormstout/Frostwolf. Along with Relaxo.
My DK hides in Bloodlust (new WOHL) but I dont play anymore, I got my retail sub active I log there or on Nelth if I want to play WoW which is rarly.

[TheWorldbreaker]

I'm not overly sure how a flag carrier would prevent a graveyard camp, but sure, whatever works. I was going to argue with Aiovous how I had faith in you guys, but your post just destroyed virtually any faith I had in you actually getting good. I wish you the best of luck with whatever you plan to do :)

You still don't seem to understand. Our team chose to just afk in graveyard once they realized that Jackadin kinda cheated by bringing 3-4 ppl from alliance side to make his composition perfect, while <FATALITY> followed the rules even though its main DPS and flag carrier were absent.

[TheWorldbreaker]

Infected actually does have some members in top100

<FATALITY> has 2-3 teams in the top100 as well. But when it comes to the top20 both Infected and FATALITY have none.

[Aiovous]

I'm not overly sure how a flag carrier would prevent a graveyard camp, but sure, whatever works. I was going to argue with Aiovous how I had faith in you guys, but your post just destroyed virtually any faith I had in you actually getting good. I wish you the best of luck with whatever you plan to do :)

I feel you, at the start of all this I was actually glad that there was going to be some sense of competition between the factions, but in the end it all never really amounted to much more than thread after thread of flaming, and somwhere along the line of flaming it started to just get real creepy (somewhere around here) and then it just went downhill from there.

It's hard to believe that he's actually being serious, but he really is, and it's all just 3spooky5me.