aaaaaaaand its finaly done :D
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Got my passport today. About 4 minutes ago actually. FedEX came at like 7:20 am. I'm a little sleepy.
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Especially good, considering it even comes with a free keylogger and usage data sent directly to googol <3
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keylogger? Never heard of such thing about Windows 10...
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http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/31/907...privacy-how-to
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...ger_windows_10
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...ogging_in_w10/
https://jonathan.porta.codes/2015/07...vacy-defaults/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10...ta_collection/
http://www.geek.com/microsoft/micros...ogger-1606160/
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Thanks :D
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Oh, the press. The ever changing beast with too many heads and too few brains. All of the options can be turned off and they're as dangerous as your auto-correct keyboard app of choice(e.g Swype on Android) is.
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You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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Of course, I bow and walk away in awe of your superiority.
Most of the articles show how to change the defaults and one specific reddit links goes into details on how to turn off big evil brother Microsoft. Every technical preview edition or any beta/alpha version of Windows has had 'keylogging' since NT, which is what some of the articles failed to mention and they were speaking about the technical previews having this like it's a new thing. The keylogging feature is only also turned on when errors are detected in technical previews, all of this is duly listed in the EULA.
As for Windows 10, they take the data you write, cut some parts, and re-assemble and mix it with other users and use it to advance their prediction software and any related features. Auto-correct apps such as Swype do the same thing. (http://www.nuance.com/company/compan...cies/index.htm) Location detection is easily turned off in the Privacy options as well. I find it ironic how people dread such features and when they're on their phones they allow all permissions to all apps without even reading anything about it. Oh Flippy Whale wants to have remote control over my phone and see everything that I do *clicks allow* and looks at a funny whale for next 10 minutes and then forgets about it entirely.Edited: August 4, 2015
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I wouldn't quite go comparing an operating system to optional phone apps.
The issue here isn't if you can turn it off, what it supposedly is going to do with the data and any other thing that might serve as a paper-thin defense to Microshaft. The point is something like this should be turned off by default and have an option to turn it on if you like. Doing it the other way around is abusing the well-known fact that most people when installing software won't bother reading the fine print.
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I wasn't comparing the operating system to apps as much as I was comparing to people's reactions to one thing having weird permissions and another. In the end, those features are meant to improve the user experience for the common normal consumer. Improvements such as showing the nearby cool restaurants, weather data, auto-correct and prediction for typing and even the advertising ID helps the normal average consumer into getting what they want. Advanced users can turn this off easily, it's not even complicated, all it takes Settings > Privacy and that's it.
When you buy a new phone, there's usually a setup where you choose either Express or Customize and usually all of these 'big brother' features are turned on by default if you choose Express. It's the same thing with Windows 10, you get to choose whether you want to customize the experience or pick the Express route and this pops up during the installation as well and like everything else you can further customize it later on during use.
I would understand this being an issue if it was turned on and there was no way of turning it off, however it's not the case.
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Eh you weren't comparing, but your whole paragraphs of defense are based on comparing how people care less about certain apps (that usually warn you about everything that the app can make use of before installing) and an operating system... something you can't quite "opt-out" if you want to have more than a fancy paperweight.
None of your defense attempts addresses the bad faith in which the whole thing is based on. People generally don't expect operating systems to have "hey we might be logging what you type, without any stated and clear rule about what, how much of it or with defined limits for what it will be used with, allowing you to take legal action if we go beyond that" options activated by default. Going "well, you should have read it" is a pretty ridiculous claim when you're fully aware how people act during software installation.
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Unless your a Windows Phone user, and by now you know Microsoft knows everything and stopped giving a ****.
They can sell my soul to the devil for all I care, there is no such thing as privacy anymore, Big Brother is always watching whether we know it or not.
You want privacy, so find yourself a densely forested area, build a underground home/cave, and live out there off the grid.
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The fact you relinquish your right to privacy doesn't makes it a worldwide standard or something people should follow.
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Defense attempts? Not everything is a war that needs to be waged. I just clarified how it works and how it's silly that the press is making a big deal out of optional features that can be turned off during the installation itself and further customized later on, akin to how new phones are set-up. It's even more silly that nearly all of these options were copy/pasted directly from Windows 8.1 and nobody made a fuss back then.
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