Warmane's biggest enemy. How do we face it?

[Michiel1234]

I don't think Warmane has anything to worry about for now :)
When the Molt-down occurd and when you google the molt-down you can see hunderds of posts on other private servers & forums celebrating the fall of a massive server and hoping to use the large player pool of molten to get more people in their own server :)

[Mercy]

The problem is, that most of the people that hate on Warmane watched DodgyKebaab's video about MOLTEN CATA, and MOLTEN MOP. This is WARMANE, a LOT better than Molten. Also, I've seen A LOT hate on Sapphire, and people claiming they won't join the server because of him/her.

I'm their scapegoat more than anything. Half the things I get accused of I'm not even responsible for in any way. But it's ok. I'll be the villain because they need me to be.

[taralej]

* This is a long read but a serious issue, so please only respond if you actually read the post! *

Warmane's biggest enemy, in my opinion, is how it is being advertised and compared to other servers on the internet.

Stopped reading here. No, it's not that. It's the community itself. Warmane is and will remain the biggest WotLK private server, it just has an incredibly ****ed up community and no, I'm not saying this because "the large amount of players make me encounter a lot of *****s". Playing and enjoying the game outside of a guild is next to impossible. Very often - even when inside a guild. Try it and you'll see.

Whether Warmane is the best... this depends solely on the continuous work of the developers. Right now I would say "no" on that, sadly. inb4 "but we make our own scripts and don't take from opensource". Over the last two months since I returned post-Moltdown I've reported more than 20 bugs on WotLK (go check the bugtracker with my name if you don't believe me), only one of them has been fixed because I listed it as an "exploit" (and it took just several days too, perhaps I should list all bug reports like this, hmm?).

Edit: wtf is wrong with Sapphire? I like people who are straightforward.

Edit2: I have to agree with willardnigma's opinion here. He's right on many points. I've said it before - you guys were indeed #1 in the past in quality too, and you took pride in it, but if you want to remain the #1 server you HAVE to keep running alongside (or even ahead of) trinitycore emu. Just look at the amount of working scripts, movement systems, collision etc. which have been working on these servers for years and which still don't work here. As willardnigma said, the quality lead has been slipping away for you over the course of the last couple of years. And don't take this as bashing, please. I want to stay on Warmane, I really do. There are still a lot of quality players and guilds here worth staying for. But I also want those abovementioned things to work, like they do on many other servers already.

[nubseeker]

Warmane biggest enemy is ... warmane. I cloud post some stuff but i am lazy to make an other acc, because i will be banned prob.

[tyrisflare]

I wouldn't worry about the future of Warmane. It's in good hands.

[Obnoxious]

Stopped reading here. No, it's not that. It's the community itself. Warmane is and will remain the biggest WotLK private server, it just has an incredibly ****ed up community and no, I'm not saying this because "the large amount of players make me encounter a lot of *****s". Playing and enjoying the game outside of a guild is next to impossible. Very often - even when inside a guild. Try it and you'll see.

Whether Warmane is the best... this depends solely on the continuous work of the developers. Right now I would say "no" on that, sadly. inb4 "but we make our own scripts and don't take from opensource". Over the last two months since I returned post-Moltdown I've reported more than 20 bugs on WotLK (go check the bugtracker with my name if you don't believe me), only one of them has been fixed because I listed it as an "exploit" (and it took just several days too, perhaps I should list all bug reports like this, hmm?).

Edit: wtf is wrong with Sapphire? I like people who are straightforward.

Edit2: I have to agree with willardnigma's opinion here. He's right on many points. I've said it before - you guys were indeed #1 in the past in quality too, and you took pride in it, but if you want to remain the #1 server you HAVE to keep running alongside (or even ahead of) trinitycore emu. Just look at the amount of working scripts, movement systems, collision etc. which have been working on these servers for years and which still don't work here. As willardnigma said, the quality lead has been slipping away for you over the course of the last couple of years. And don't take this as bashing, please. I want to stay on Warmane, I really do. There are still a lot of quality players and guilds here worth staying for. But I also want those abovementioned things to work, like they do on many other servers already.

I don't know (or going to check) what bugs have you reported, but you should consider checking if they aren't already fixed on Lordaeron. Not only there's a chance stuff might already be fixed, it will likely get fixed - if technically possible, of course. Everything that is being worked on in Lordaeron is supposed to then be spread to all other expansions, from my understanding.

We did lose a lot of time because of the period we were under... I'm not sure I could call it "bad management," it might be closer to "no management at all," which is essential to keep the development always going after further improvement. We were left behind technically, there's no need to try denying that, but, once again, check out Lordaeron and you will see we are working around the clock to climb back to the position where we belong. It might not be much consolation if you play in a different server, but keep in mind what's happening there should mirror what you will get once everything is ready.

[Adeptis]

I wouldn't worry about the future of Warmane. It's in good hands.

That DodgyKebab love <3

[taralej]

Yes, I know Lordaeron is light years ahead of the other realms. It's also still on PTR state though. I tried it and it's just lovely, even at the low level I was. I am really looking forward for when the fixes there will be transferred to the other realms.

A question, if I may: from what I understood from an experienced player on Lordaeron, that realm actually runs on a different, newer core than the older realms. Is this true? Won't this inhibit in any way the fixes transferring?

Either way, I'm looking forward to Lordaeron's official launch and I'll probably go and stay there for good, will probably make it my last real and full WotLK experience (before Legion's launch), if the realm is really as good as it looks so far.

[Obnoxious]

Yes, I know Lordaeron is light years ahead of the other realms. It's also still on PTR state though. I tried it and it's just lovely, even at the low level I was. I am really looking forward for when the fixes there will be transferred to the other realms.

A question, if I may: from what I understood from an experienced player on Lordaeron, that realm actually runs on a different, newer core than the older realms. Is this true? Won't this inhibit in any way the fixes transferring?

Either way, I'm looking forward to Lordaeron's official launch and I'll probably go and stay there for good, will probably make it my last real and full WotLK experience (before Legion's launch), if the realm is really as good as it looks so far.

Don't quote me on this as absolute truth, since it's just my understanding, gathered from the information that has been said by QAs and Developer posts, but I believe it's actually the other way around - this different core would allow for fixes to be transferred much more easily, even to different expansions. I assume then that the goal is to have that core be used on all servers when everything is ready.

[tyrisflare]

this different core would allow for fixes to be transferred much more easily, even to different expansions.

This is my understanding too.

[Toshito]

The problem is, that most of the people that hate on Warmane watched DodgyKebaab's video about MOLTEN CATA, and MOLTEN MOP. This is WARMANE, a LOT better than Molten. Also, I've seen A LOT hate on Sapphire, and people claiming they won't join the server because of him/her.

I loled so hard when that guy talked crap about Warmane and then he went and talked about a server that is sea of roses, with full blizz-like. Well I played on that wotlk server he talked so good about, the truth is, for some reason I left that same server back in 2011 to come to Molten, here is some reasons why:

-The server is controlled by a kid.

-If that server is hacked by some1 with knwoledge to mess up the databases that server doesn't stand a chance, that's right I was there back then and every day they were doing roll backs to the last day that the databases were fine (using a backup) and with that all progression of that day would be lost, that happened and I got frustrated and I believe most of the ppl was.

-The horde control all the bgs on that server, they don't do anything to fix the unbalanced faction, instead they let it be like that for the last 4 years as I know (because when here we were experiencing the Moltdown, I came to there to see if that changes a bit, and it didn't).

Well I can go on and on, that server still exist because at least they were smart enough to do merges with other private servers that were in risk to close. At this time you may know what server I am talking about (I believe), something that is true, but unfortunately for them the old Molten was way better, now think about Warmane. Warmane can put that server in the smallest pocket of its pants lol.

You may be not be interested with all the info I put, the bad experience that I had in that server and then dodgy came and made a video and talking so good aboutt that crappy server while he was criticizing so hard Warmane, it makes me to not trust on that guy lol, while some ppl may like him, the fact is, he may be spreading some wrong information about Warmane and that isn't good one way or another.

[taralej]

All of this just makes me more anxious towards the Lordaeron release, lol :D

[Pallzdani]

In the name of Kaer, what a bitter irony! You dare to advertise that joke of a server led by the Unholy Trinity of Shiro, nIM and BnB?? On Warmane's forums? Are you out of your mind? I knew this thread would be derailed to an advertisement board of other servers! Just mention that Turkish kebaab-selling prick and that's what you get! Pray you won't get banned for this!

@OP Warmane's doing fine, no need to worry. As you've already mentioned, Reddit isn't exactly the place where you can get unbiased information.

I have no idea who those 3 people you mentioned are... I have advertised no server. I mentioned the name of an unfinished server which is in a completely different expansion that Warmane have said they will never do. So I'm pretty sure people that wanted a TBC server have long gone. I don't expect a ban and highly doubt I will be banned. Please re-think your post.
Also no need for mindless insulting, dodgy does what he does well, and I guess it's true that expecting haters is part of the job description

[-Notorious-]

I'm their scapegoat more than anything. Half the things I get accused of I'm not even responsible for in any way. But it's ok. I'll be the villain because they need me to be.

She's the villain we need, not the villain we deserve.

[Kelthuzzad]

All of this just makes me more anxious towards the Lordaeron release, lol :D

You should find me on Lord PTR dude! I'm on Thares (off topic)

This is my understanding too.

Lol you are actually here posting on the forums? :D I remember the video where you showed you were banned :P