World of Warcraft: Legion - new expansion

[Pallzdani]

They could fix it by separating PvE and PvP functionality of abilities, but for whatever reason they refuse to do so.

You do realise that is what they are doing right? The whole prestige system is about that. You gain honour to progress through the PvP talent system (which btw the CC trinket is one of the first choices, inb4 'humans get to choose a different Tier 1 talent coz of their racial, so unfair blizz') and each talent changes how a normal ability functions. For example we saw Dk's get necrotic strike back, useless in PvE but OP and annoying asf in PvP. Priests get a change to one of their passives, that now grants them like 15%(?) spell haste.

At gamecon they said that the lead designer is now working with the PvP team thoroughly to help balance PvP around itself and not around PvE which has been what they asked from him since cata. So basically if they don't **** this up, PvP and PvE will not be related at all.

Also an idea about 'no PvP gear, so PvE gear will be mandatory' preach (highly respected streamer from Method) said there is a possiblity of Set stats. So no matter what gear you wear, you will have the exact same amount of stats as any other player with your spec. Same Str, Armour, secondary stats etc etc.

[Slywyn]

I see. I haven't read very indepth about Legion because I'm just not that interested in it at all.

[1337]

Apparently "we" lead the invasion, as the heroes of both factions end up either giving us their weapons (Ashbringer, Doomhammer, etc) or we find the ancient weapons needed to combat the demons. And being that they made Illidan a demon in WCIII, they stated his soul went on to the Twisting nether as well (how his body ended up on the Broken Isles, i honestly have no clue). Being that he knows more about the legion than Gul'Dan apparently, he's most likely going to be our main head for the assault. And tbh, Sargeras isnt our last fight so to speak. We still have to fight off the naga, the Zandalar trolls, regain connection to the Emerald Dream and Azeroth after cleansing it of the Nightmare Xavius created, and the scourge is still active, no matter who's heading it. So no, i doubt this is the end of WoW as far as expacs go. Even then, we still have to fight the Old Gods as well, and since they inhabit all planets, even Post-Shattering Draenor (Outland), they're as much a threat as Sargeras.

P.S- Bolvar's a Warrior.

Also let me add, Illidans soul was entrapped into his own body by maiv shadowsong thus it was not sent to the twisting nether, she later took his body to the vault of the wardens so he may suffer his eternal sentence along with all the illidari. The cinematic with Gul'dan is most likely not in the tomb of sargeras but in the vault of wardens.

But ye all this is speculation at most with the information that was given, we don't really know much :/


Also they just recently revealed that the scale of the burning legion attack will be on whole of azeroth and not just the broken isles, so that will be cool to see.

[toniplavna]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/...raft-2-is-done


Pleeeeeeeeeeeease pls pls pls pls wc4 no sc3 <333 !!! I will kill to see some old guys in action again like Grubby, Moon, Sky, Tod, Fly100%, Lyn, Remind, TH000, Infi, Yumiko, Lucifer <3 ah those times

[CreamyPies]

trailer looks cool n stuff but i bet expension is not going to be that much of a fun

Rashed conclusions.

[youdontknowme]

Well the kind guys and gals in forum filled my historical mistakes of the game and explained the situation, except for the little brick called - Anorien 16.

It is *****s like you who apply physics to fiction and science fiction and pretend to know **** are empty vessels ringing loud.

Also how does Bolvar Fordragon and Tirion Fording becomes brothers in your imagination? Oh wait ... you just watched the end cinematic and have no lore knowledge at all.

Hey, you hater ! Let me tell you a few things, ooops, no, actually can tell you without you letting me !

Firstly, physics does apply to science fiction and fiction, it's just more complicated and advanced. Our knowledge of the physics is just a portion of the whole, as goes for other academic sections.

Secondly, it's clear from your post, that you know the "*****s like me" , or you just pretend to know something. To define an individual you need to know much more about the way he behaves in real live and know his opinions on different matter and to have seen his reactions in different situations. So go and bust your head with a hammer, if you know how to use one. Ohhh, wait. What was the word you used in the fist *****s ? Was it s h i t s ? Did you call me a s h i t , you hater ? Why so ? Because I did not know some of factology or is it because I expressed my own theory ? HA ? Is it because I mentioned that Activision ruined Blizzard ? Are you a fan of the ActiBRICKS ? Did I offended you by expressing my opinion, which was not directed you anyone in particular, but Blizzard itself ? I actually don't get how you even imagine, that you know anything about me ? Unless you are a good stalker as you are a hater. It seems you are the "empty vessel" here, because only slime comes out of that hater mouth of yours. I do not pretend to know things, what I know I know, what I do not know I ask, or I make some theory, which is later confirmed or busted by the ppl who know it. I guess you are the one who pretends to know things. You know if you say those beautiful words, that you've said about me, to someone else, in public, you are gonna get your head busted or some other useless part of your body. But haters, like you, are just words, words in the internet reallity. How pathetic.

Thirdly, I hate those to hate for no reason in particular. Haters like yourself. It's those little bricks that I love to break into useless dust. How come all people here quoted parts of my post and explained what I had said wrong and what was the real thing, but there is one big difference between them and you. They are not haters like you. So now, as I said before, go and bust your head with a hammer, know how to use one. If you don't, jump from 50 metters and while you fall you post hater post about the ground below.

[Anorien16]

Firstly, physics does apply to science fiction and fiction, it's just more complicated and advanced. Our knowledge of the physics is just a portion of the whole, as goes for other academic sections.

As per the Context, you said that certain plot lines defy the Laws Like Physics ... Care to explain how Warcraftian Time Travel Mechanics 'defy physics'?

Secondly, it's clear from your post, that you know the "*****s like me" , or you just pretend to know something. To define an individual you need to know much more about the way he behaves in real live and know his opinions on different matter and to have seen his reactions in different situations. So go and bust your head with a hammer, if you know how to use one. Ohhh, wait. What was the word you used in the fist *****s ? Was it s h i t s ? Did you call me a s h i t , you hater ? Why so ? Because I did not know some of factology or is it because I expressed my own theory ? HA ? Is it because I mentioned that Activision ruined Blizzard ? Are you a fan of the ActiBRICKS ? Did I offended you by expressing my opinion, which was not directed you anyone in particular, but Blizzard itself ? I actually don't get how you even imagine, that you know anything about me ? Unless you are a good stalker as you are a hater. It seems you are the "empty vessel" here, because only slime comes out of that hater mouth of yours. I do not pretend to know things, what I know I know, what I do not know I ask, or I make some theory, which is later confirmed or busted by the ppl who know it. I guess you are the one who pretends to know things. You know if you say those beautiful words, that you've said about me, to someone else, in public, you are gonna get your head busted or some other useless part of your body. But haters, like you, are just words, words in the internet reallity. How pathetic.

Guys we got a salt mine here.

Thirdly, I hate those to hate for no reason in particular. Haters like yourself. It's those little bricks that I love to break into useless dust. How come all people here quoted parts of my post and explained what I had said wrong and what was the real thing, but there is one big difference between them and you. They are not haters like you. So now, as I said before, go and bust your head with a hammer, know how to use one. If you don't, jump from 50 metters and while you fall you post hater post about the ground below.

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A1: The time line is not changed, the Warcraftian Time System is like DC or Marvel Multiverse. There is one main or true main time and many alternate ones. Its the job of the Bronze flight to keep the true one pure. WoD happened in a alt universe in the past.

A2: High Demons like Sergeras and his second in commands can not simply die .... unless they are killed in Twisting Nether itself. Only their avatars die in other planes. (Though the concept of anchoring is rather recent, the concept of Avatars is as old as Agewynn)

Except for Illidin's return, everything else was well established in the WoW lore nearly half a decade back. (In fact you can actually do Time Travel dungeons as early as BC) And preparing for a new invasion by a 'burning shadow' was the entire
basis of Wrathion's Legendary questline and WoD's initiation.

It is *****s like you who apply physics to fiction and science fiction and pretend to know **** are empty vessels ringing loud.

Also how does Bolvar Fordragon and Tirion Fording becomes brothers in your imagination? Oh wait ... you just watched the end cinematic and have no lore knowledge at all.



Nah .. it was confirmed that Archimone's soul is anchored to the nether. Only his current avatar died.

Bit like the Daedric Creature from Elder Scrolls actually.

That was my entire reply .... and of the entire reply you only focused on a single line: "It is *****s like you who apply physics to fiction and science fiction and pretend to know **** are empty vessels ringing loud."

Guess the truth touched a nerve.

PS You flatter yourself too much. Your farce is so hollow that it does not deserve anything as remotely concrete as hate.

[Thoirin]

Unfortunately,it's too late,they screwed the game too much with their talent trees,garrisons and so on.They should either do massive changes or create a new game.

[youdontknowme]

As per the Context, you said that certain plot lines defy the Laws Like Physics ... Care to explain how Warcraftian Time Travel Mechanics 'defy physics'?

When the past is changed, the time line will change for sure. However, if the past changes, as much as in WoD, and the time line stays the same we have a situation that ignores the laws of physics. When I wrote this, I did not know that WoD happens in a different universe. I ment this for a sole universe and reality. Your question wasn't rude enough.

Guys we got a salt mine here.

That was my entire reply .... and of the entire reply you only focused on a single line: "It is *****s like you who apply physics to fiction and science fiction and pretend to know **** are empty vessels ringing loud."

Well, well, well, I see we are being metaphoric now. I also see that you are quite blind. I mainly focused, as it can be seen, not on the "polite" line you wrote, but on the reason behind writing it. And what I tried to do, is to guess why. By asking questions and guessing the reasons, not like your kind, who emediately casts an charecteristic upon someone. Is it so difficult ?

Guess the truth touched a nerve.

PS You flatter yourself too much. Your farce is so hollow that it does not deserve anything as remotely concrete as hate.

Something did touch the nerve, but it wasn't the truth. It was the arrogant and bad aducated personality of the rudness of your offensive language, that started all of this. If a stranger tells me what you had I would smile and laugh. But you said this in contact with the post I made about WoD. And the hate you charged me with, can only tell me that you have big complexes about your existence, that you heal and make for, with expressing hate on others around you. This is typical for bullies and haters and other, which I will not name here. I already guessed that you were a hater.... .

And you keep saying things like you have watched me for days, lol. Do you think you are that smart ??? I asked a retorical question. A person like you thinks that for himself.

I said this in my previous post, but a person like you would probably wont say anything about so dangerous topic about his tiny self.

"You know if you say those beautiful words, that you've said about me, to someone else, in public, you are gonna get your head busted or some other useless part of your body. But haters, like you, are just words, words in the internet reallity. How pathetic. " - this is what I ment. If you say those words, in public, to someone that you do not know, about a opinion he expressed on a well known topic, you are gonna get your crap beaten out of you, or get brutally killed if you end up on the wrong guy.

"Your farce is so hollow that it does not deserve anything as remotely concrete as hate." . My, my, who is hollow, you ***** cat.

Just do one thing for me, relax I won't ask you jump of a cliff or a building, tell me the name of your toons between August 2013 and February 2015, if i know them from the game I can make a better picture about your character.

Unfortunately,it's too late,they screwed the game too much with their talent trees,garrisons and so on.They should either do massive changes or create a new game.

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Totally true ! ! !

[Anorien16]

When the past is changed, the time line will change for sure. However, if the past changes, as much as in WoD, and the time line stays the same we have a situation that ignores the laws of physics.

Which Law of Physics says that? Because as far as I know Grandfather Paradox was never resolved decisively.

When I wrote this, I did not know that WoD happens in a different universe. I ment this for a sole universe and reality. Your question wasn't rude enough.

Apparently you did not Pay Attention to any Bronze Dragonflight related lore .. since TBC. There IS no sole reality, there is a multiverse ... The Corrupted Bronze Dragonflight is called Infinite Dragonflight for a reason.

Thus my point IS proven: you are ignorant of WoW Lore but quick to share your 'opinion'.

Well, well, well, I see we are being metaphoric now. I also see that you are quite blind. I mainly focused, as it can be seen, not on the "polite" line you wrote, but on the reason behind writing it. And what I tried to do, is to guess why. By asking questions and guessing the reasons, not like your kind, who emediately casts an charecteristic upon someone. Is it so difficult ?

Ironic part is ... You accuse 'my kind' to 'emediately casts an charecteristic upon someone' as something bad ... But you decided to write a essay 'on the reason (my) behind writing it' and thus characterizing (From implying that I care about Activation to being 'hater') my reason behind calling out ignorant bull****.

Also you did not focus on anything other than '"polite" line' as you in your supreme observant mode said: "How come all people here quoted parts of my post and explained what I had said wrong and what was the real thing, but there is one big difference between them and you." .... where as I clearly answered your question as A1 and A2.

Something did touch the nerve, but it wasn't the truth.

Tell me more. You must be unable to speak anything but the true.

It was the arrogant and bad aducated personality of the rudness of your offensive language, that started all of this.

Sorry that I am allergic to bull****.

Also lets just pretend .... that your own post wasnt know it all.

If a stranger tells me what you had I would smile and laugh. But you said this in contact with the post I made about WoD.

Much Impressed.

And the hate you charged me with, can only tell me that you have big complexes about your existence, that you heal and make for, with expressing hate on others around you. This is typical for bullies and haters and other, which I will not name here. I already guessed that you were a hater.... .

As I mentioned before ... you are not worth my hate.

Also bringing smug know it all (who are in truth are ignorant of the subject) to their level is not hate or bullying.

And you keep saying things like you have watched me for days, lol. Do you think you are that smart ??? I asked a retorical question. A person like you thinks that for himself.

Who among two of us is psychoanalyzing the other as hater, bully with complexes about his existence ... I think that person might be pretending to be very observant. :-P

Also a stupid rhetorical question is still stupid.

I said this in my previous post, but a person like you would probably wont say anything about so dangerous topic about his tiny self.

"And you keep saying things like you have watched me for days, lol."

"You know if you say those beautiful words, that you've said about me, to someone else, in public, you are gonna get your head busted or some other useless part of your body. But haters, like you, are just words, words in the internet reallity. How pathetic. " - this is what I ment. If you say those words, in public, to someone that you do not know, about a opinion he expressed on a well known topic, you are gonna get your crap beaten out of you, or get brutally killed if you end up on the wrong guy.

What makes you so sure that I am not 'the wrong guy'?

"Your farce is so hollow that it does not deserve anything as remotely concrete as hate." . My, my, who is hollow, you ***** cat.

Well I am not the one who know jack about WoW Time Travel Lore ... but yet gives expert opinion on it.

Just do one thing for me, relax I won't ask you jump of a cliff or a building, tell me the name of your toons between August 2013 and February 2015, if i know them from the game I can make a better picture about your character.

My my ... Isnt that Stalker-ish. I am flattered by my interest in my charachter. But how about you take your own advice and relax and not jump of a elevated plane; you are not first to blabber without knowing the subject and make a mistake.

[youdontknowme]

My my ... Isnt that Stalker-ish. I am flattered by my interest in my charachter. But how about you take your own advice and relax and not jump of a elevated plane; you are not first to blabber without knowing the subject and make a mistake.

No, it's not stalkerish. If it were I would already be on the quest of asking the people in this forum about you. And I did. While I was writing this I was relaxed and with a big smile on my face. Does this mean that you are too shy for sharing the name of your character ?

I'm driving away tomorrow, so when I return, I will deal with your last post, if this topic is not deleted by then.

Just name your toon !

[Anorien16]

No, it's not stalkerish. If it were I would already be on the quest of asking the people in this forum about you.

Then it wont be great start ... Cos telling multiple other people is the least thing a stalker should do, as someone might report suspicious behavior. Hypothetically you would be a incompetent stalker too. Not surprising though.

And I did. While I was writing this I was relaxed and with a big smile on my face.

Yeah ... I am sure you enjoyed writing essays on my psyche analysis totally based on guesswork.

Does this mean that you are too shy for sharing the name of your character ?

Well there are reasons:
1. You are not worth it.
2. I have no reason to trust you.
3. I am pretty sure you dont know me.
4. You dont need my toon name to find evidences regarding my behavior patterns.
5. Slim chance that I ever met you and you remember the encounter, is nothing concrete to base anything upon.

I'm driving away tomorrow, so when I return, I will deal with your last post, if this topic is not deleted by then.

When you return will you admit that you have no concrete lore Knowledge regarding Bronze Dragonflight and Timeways but pretended otherwise?

Just name your toon !

Hint: I dont have to.

[youdontknowme]

Which Law of Physics says that? Because as far as I know Grandfather Paradox was never resolved decisively.

Let me rephraze this. If I go back in time and help Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg with Operation Valkyrie, it will most certainly change history. However the changes are not to be as planned.

Apparently you did not Pay Attention to any Bronze Dragonflight related lore .. since TBC. There IS no sole reality, there is a multiverse ... The Corrupted Bronze Dragonflight is called Infinite Dragonflight for a reason.

Thus my point IS proven: you are ignorant of WoW Lore but quick to share your 'opinion'.

No it's not. I never said that I have deep knowledge of the Bronze Dragonflight lore. I shared my opinoin on some part of the History, that I knew and made reasons and conclusions based on it. I did not comment on something that I did not know.

Ironic part is ... You accuse 'my kind' to 'emediately casts an charecteristic upon someone' as something bad ... But you decided to write a essay 'on the reason (my) behind writing it' and thus characterizing (From implying that I care about Activation to being 'hater') my reason behind calling out ignorant bull****.

Also you did not focus on anything other than '"polite" line' as you in your supreme observant mode said: "How come all people here quoted parts of my post and explained what I had said wrong and what was the real thing, but there is one big difference between them and you." .... where as I clearly answered your question as A1 and A2.

I applied deductive logic to your aggresive approach. You gave me plenty of material to wonder upon. The real irony is that you think what I did was ironic.

Tell me more. You must be unable to speak anything but the true.

2+2=5

Sorry that I am allergic to bull****.

Also lets just pretend .... that your own post wasnt know it all.

Well I hope you go the hospital from this allergic reaction. The other ooze in this quote doesn't make any sence.

Much Impressed.

Being sarcastic aren't we ?

As I mentioned before ... you are not worth my hate.

Also bringing smug know it all (who are in truth are ignorant of the subject) to their level is not hate or bullying.

I'm not woth it, am I ? Ha-ha, this makes me laugh ! :D

Who among two of us is psychoanalyzing the other as hater, bully with complexes about his existence ... I think that person might be pretending to be very observant. :-P

Also a stupid rhetorical question is still stupid.

This is not even worth commentating.

What makes you so sure that I am not 'the wrong guy'?

I don't. I'm not a prophet or a progressive thinker like you, to predict people. Don't you think that you are yoo full of yourself ?

Well I am not the one who know jack about WoW Time Travel Lore ... but yet gives expert opinion on it.

Is "expert opinion" your opinion or is it what you think is my opinion ? As I said before I made conclusions based on logic and on the lore I new....... .

Then it wont be great start ... Cos telling multiple other people is the least thing a stalker should do, as someone might report suspicious behavior. Hypothetically you would be a incompetent stalker too. Not surprising though.

Suspicious behavior ?? You continue to amuse me. :D :D You do have a point though, I were to be stalker it would be probably a incompetent one. I don't like stalking. I either speak to the people directly or don't speak to them at all.

Yeah ... I am sure you enjoyed writing essays on my psyche analysis totally based on guesswork.

Like you didn't make statements on me based on guesswork as well.

Well there are reasons:
1. You are not worth it.
2. I have no reason to trust you.
3. I am pretty sure you dont know me.
4. You dont need my toon name to find evidences regarding my behavior patterns.
5. Slim chance that I ever met you and you remember the encounter, is nothing concrete to base anything upon.

1.Now I really think that you think too full of yourself.
2.Trust me ? For what ? You think that I'm gonna start following you or try to scam you ?
3.Again we talk about chanse.
4.Who said I did. I asked about you toon's name from a mere curiosity.
5. I played in one realm and one realm only. In Ragnaros up to January, this year. So this can tell you if there's bigger or lesser chance that we've met in the game.

When you return will you admit that you have no concrete lore Knowledge regarding Bronze Dragonflight and Timeways but pretended otherwise?

I never said I had. I only commentated the part of the history I new.... .

Hint: I dont have to.

I don't eat virtual charecters, nor people, nor accounts.

[Deathmastered]

Sorry for offtopic but holy PogChamps the length of these answers here....

[Velganna]

The game changed too much over time. Players with the old mindset will not dig this whole "legendaries for everyone! " thing. What Blizzard has successfully done with the past expansions was to release amazing trailers and make a crappy product look great. I got fooled by the whole WoD thing but never again. The game we love and wish to play is gone forever. Thank God for private servers.