[WoTLK] Point shop rework

[Muhkutin]

This is such a disaster.. So basically, we dont need to raid anymore except couple of rs runs? PVE will die for sure... Atleast we still have our pvp..

[romz]

This is such a disaster.. So basically, we dont need to raid anymore except couple of rs runs? PVE will die for sure... Atleast we still have our pvp..

Incorrect, enough time has essentially passed for a lot of people to already be geared.

[dingding]

I think 271is good enough, so i dont need my trinket and weapon any more, can i get refund?

[kidginzero]

Incorrect, enough time has essentially passed for a lot of people to already be geared.

Incorrect, lazy players get fully geared for 2 years max.

[romz]

Incorrect, lazy players get fully geared for 2 years max.

Why should you care? If a lazy player gets gear in 2 years odds are they won't que for raids or for anything. This makes your argument invalid. Also why should you care on how someone obtains gear? Oh wait it doesn't affect you. You treat it as you are being injected with nitrogen if anyone obtains their gear via Point Shop. Which to be honest is quite pathetic. So when you can actually make a real argument I'll be here and counter it. Oh let's be real you can't make a real argument. You already failed about 3 times at making a real argument.

[kidginzero]

Why should you care? If a lazy player gets gear in 2 years odds are they won't que for raids or for anything. This makes your argument invalid. Also why should you care on how someone obtains gear? Oh wait it doesn't affect you. You treat it as you are being injected with nitrogen if anyone obtains their gear via Point Shop. Which to be honest is quite pathetic. So when you can actually make a real argument I'll be here and counter it. Oh let's be real you can't make a real argument. You already failed about 3 times at making a real argument.

Don't be sinister, u can directly say u want the 271 items instead of commetns to others, but no reasons.

[romz]

Don't be sinister, u can directly say u want the 271 items instead of commetns to others, but no reasons.

There is nothing sinister about it. I am stating logic. Again you provided no real argument against this change. I stated how you were acting and how and why you are wrong. Yet that is all you can come up with? Really sad.

[thiagoramon]

the systeam are WORK ?

[SnoreYOU]

Will the prices of the faction change and other services part of the price squish?

[tricky11]

Along with vote points required for ilvl 271 gear, if an achievement is also required to obtain each piece of gear, it might help in the following ways :
1) Maintain higher quality of raids by making sure that people without enough experience cannot simply vote to get high gear.
2) Reduce ninja-ing. People might not ninja rare drops from icc25 cause once they kill that boss, they can get that gear eventually through vote points.
3) Prevent other useless activity hacks since Multiboxing, Botting will not be enough to achieve gear.

Suggestions :
1) Add achievement or boss kill requirement to obtain gear. For eg. To get "Tiny abomination in a Jar" using vote points, a player should have also killed Professor Putricide in ICC25 first.
2) Maybe reduce the cost of gear with more number of boss kills. If "Deathbringer's Will" costs 25 vote points after killing Deathbringer Saurfang once in ICC25, then it can cost 24 vote points after 2 kills, 23 vote points after 3 kills, etc.

Not sure of the technical feasibility of the above. But I feel they are reasonable improvements.

[johnnybgood89]

Along with vote points required for ilvl 271 gear, if an achievement is also required to obtain each piece of gear, it might help in the following ways :
1) Maintain higher quality of raids by making sure that people without enough experience cannot simply vote to get high gear.
2) Reduce ninja-ing. People might not ninja rare drops from icc25 cause once they kill that boss, they can get that gear eventually through vote points.
3) Prevent other useless activity hacks since Multiboxing, Botting will not be enough to achieve gear.

Suggestions :
1) Add achievement or boss kill requirement to obtain gear. For eg. To get "Tiny abomination in a Jar" using vote points, a player should have also killed Professor Putricide in ICC25 first.
2) Maybe reduce the cost of gear with more number of boss kills. If "Deathbringer's Will" costs 25 vote points after killing Deathbringer Saurfang once in ICC25, then it can cost 24 vote points after 2 kills, 23 vote points after 3 kills, etc.

Not sure of the technical feasibility of the above. But I feel they are reasonable improvements.

This is not Lordaeron to add some achievement req.

[Skar94]

When shop will be up ?

[romz]

Along with vote points required for ilvl 271 gear, if an achievement is also required to obtain each piece of gear, it might help in the following ways :
1) Maintain higher quality of raids by making sure that people without enough experience cannot simply vote to get high gear.
2) Reduce ninja-ing. People might not ninja rare drops from icc25 cause once they kill that boss, they can get that gear eventually through vote points.
3) Prevent other useless activity hacks since Multiboxing, Botting will not be enough to achieve gear.

Suggestions :
1) Add achievement or boss kill requirement to obtain gear. For eg. To get "Tiny abomination in a Jar" using vote points, a player should have also killed Professor Putricide in ICC25 first.
2) Maybe reduce the cost of gear with more number of boss kills. If "Deathbringer's Will" costs 25 vote points after killing Deathbringer Saurfang once in ICC25, then it can cost 24 vote points after 2 kills, 23 vote points after 3 kills, etc.

Not sure of the technical feasibility of the above. But I feel they are reasonable improvements.

Adding achievements as a requirement is pointless. It will not stop ninja-ing gear in fact making 271 gear available with just points on it's own is more likely to reduce it. But regardless people who ninja are still going to ninja gear away. It also won't prevent any kind of activity hacks. In fact just adding an extra step to buy the stuff with points that you can gather daily is pointless and won't really do anything.

Also with your 2nd suggestion would completely make obtaining points useless. I mean think about it. Say a person DOES have the achievement and say 100 kills on a boss then essentially it would make that gear free and make gathering points useless.

Sorry I just see more problems than positives in your idea or suggestion.

[Najrah]

Logging in game and keeping oneself connected for hours each week (assuming the activity rank will be working this way) for 1.5 to 2 years is true dedication. It would clearly be easier to find a job and donate.

I think 271is good enough, so i dont need my trinket and weapon any more, can i get refund?

Being refund on donations doesn't make any sense.

[boolouk]

they said all items from 200-271 it lvl that are not wrathful , hc and boe will be available

Ok, ty m8 :)