Multiboxing on Lordaeron | Yes or no?

[Pallzdani]

In other words u say that there gonna be "dick" multiboxer that will inflate the AH prices.
Putting plenty of "would", "could" and "might" phrases doesnt make the statement less harsh.

'In other words' So it started off with you saying that I definitely said that to you now saying I basically said that. ****ing lol mate. You are wrong two-folds.
I never said they was going to be dicks. I said 'if he wanted to'. Every community has a sub-community of dicks, it's life. I pointed out that they have the power do it if they wanted to. Like everyone has the power to ninja if they wanted to. Every raid leader has the power to kick everyone from a raid on 1% of a raid boss health if they wanted to. Please read before making me out to be accusing a single select community.

Here u are pretending to know what multiboxing is about.

Ill clarify a few things here:

Who cares about the low gear from 5 man dungeons and BGs?
U get the end game PvP and PvE gear from Arena and ICC!
Reaching a high rating in 2s or 3s is pretty much impossible as multiboxer so u have to play each of ur toons separately with a patner to get a decent arena rating.
When it comes to PvE our best multiboxer is "kalvindeane" and as far i know he couldnt pass the gunship battle yet. That should give u an idea how hard it is to gear up in PvE...

Okay, mistake on both our behalf's. My mistake for forgetting about end game gearing. Your mistake for generalizing 'gearing up' when you just mean end game gearing. But my point is still true if we are talking about your original statement of gearing up.

Believe me when I tell u that leveling as a multiboxer takes so much more time than leveling a single character.
I already leveled a 5 man team from 1-80 on the old Lordaeron realm so I know what im talking about.
Leveling only in dungeons takes much longer than questing and all the collection quests take 5 times longer as multiboxer and there are plenty of them.
In addition it is not possible to gain any experience in raids so when u level more than 5 chars u have to make seperated groups and everything takes twice as long.

You are stating obvious points that does not require you to be a multiboxing god to know. Yes I imagine questing does take longer, did I ever deny that? No. I stated it is easier, and I still stand by that point until proven wrong.

Weird argumentation.
U have to learn something that a single boxer doesnt have to learn. Consequently its a bigger challenge.

No it's not, yes you do learn something a single-boxer doesn't, if they so choose, but you have to learn a lot of things in WoW...But once you've learnt it then what? What's so hard about being able to do something you have learnt?

The fastests way to farm gold is having mining and herbalism and gathering materials to sell them in the AH.
A Multiboxer doesnt has the option to gather materials with his whole team.
He has only the option to farm trash mobs in ICC which is a much less efficient way to earn gold.

The fastest way to farm gold as a single player yes. It is a lot easier (and faster) clearing the rooms before Marrowgar and then selling the trash and listing the BoE's than it is going around gathering ores/herbs (that can also be contested by other farmers) then listing it on AH.

Every Multiboxer who has already tried lord Marrowgar will facepalm when he reads ur statement.
Try to tank, heal, dps and avoid Bone Storm and the flames at the same time. It is possible but 10 times harder than for a regular player.
When it comes to pvp I guess it obvious that a multiboxer has bigger troubles to avoid AoE than a regular player has.

Wasn't really thinking about raids, didn't realize some MB's was actually dumb enough to attempt it. Damn you got me there then, 1 point to you, lost count to how many points to me /shrug

Bigger learning curve = harder to learn = makes the game harder

No...
Bigger learning curve=Takes longer to learn=Takes longer to start Multiboxing out in the real world.
Think of learning to multibox and learning a new class/spec/rotation and putting that into practice.
You jump first time into MBoxing and try to 'Pwn sum n00bz' you are going to fail hard.
You jump first time into a new class/spec and try to 'Pwn sum n00bz' you are going to fail hard.


Funny, every quote you pointed out, requires 0 knowledge of even the basics of MBoxing, just common sense.

Now I want to call you out on something...You are pretending you have even a slimmer of common sense when you claim time and difficulty are related. You claim each point in Mboxing is hard due to how long it takes. It take's a long time for me to write all this out to show you how silly you are, is it hard?...lol nope

[MrHelp88]

We copy each other almost completely yet again.

*cough* forum post plagiarism *cough*

{joking of course}

[osiris123]

In other words u say that there gonna be "dick" multiboxer that will inflate the AH prices.
Putting plenty of "would", "could" and "might" phrases doesnt make the statement less harsh.


Here u are pretending to know what multiboxing is about.

Ill clarify a few things here:

Who cares about the low gear from 5 man dungeons and BGs?
U get the end game PvP and PvE gear from Arena and ICC!
Reaching a high rating in 2s or 3s is pretty much impossible as multiboxer so u have to play each of ur toons separately with a patner to get a decent arena rating.
When it comes to PvE our best multiboxer is "kalvindeane" and as far i know he couldnt pass the gunship battle yet. That should give u an idea how hard it is to gear up in PvE...

Believe me when I tell u that leveling as a multiboxer takes so much more time than leveling a single character.
I already leveled a 5 man team from 1-80 on the old Lordaeron realm so I know what im talking about.
Leveling only in dungeons takes much longer than questing and all the collection quests take 5 times longer as multiboxer and there are plenty of them.
In addition it is not possible to gain any experience in raids so when u level more than 5 chars u have to make seperated groups and everything takes twice as long.

Weird argumentation.
U have to learn something that a single boxer doesnt have to learn. Consequently its a bigger challenge.

The fastests way to farm gold is having mining and herbalism and gathering materials to sell them in the AH.
A Multiboxer doesnt has the option to gather materials with his whole team.
He has only the option to farm trash mobs in ICC which is a much less efficient way to earn gold.

Every Multiboxer who has already tried lord Marrowgar will facepalm when he reads ur statement.
Try to tank, heal, dps and avoid Bone Storm and the flames at the same time. It is possible but 10 times harder than for a regular player.
When it comes to pvp I guess it obvious that a multiboxer has bigger troubles to avoid AoE than a regular player has.

Bigger learning curve = harder to learn = makes the game harder

A read a lot of BS right here.. let's be honest you never really had to gear up anything cause you always had the shop.
Pve being hard for a multiboxer give me a break i used to know a guy that just picked up 2 tanks few healers and went berserk in ICC . Compare that to a normal player who has to co-op with 24 other players in order to make it even half way.
As far as PVP goes again you never earned an item in your life casue you had the shop + even with the low gear when its 15 or more chars you just spam your instant spells and that is more than enough to kill someone.Not to mention ruining big bg's like AV and IOC
As far as making gold you know as well as i do (if not better) that molten/warmane used to have a lot of ways to exploit to get anything, gold being as simple as **** until last few months when they started to fix stuff left and right so what i am trying to say you never had to farm gold in your life.
You've had your ways for almost 6 years now ruining events,world pvp, hell even pve at times and you still will in 6 other realms just not Lordaeron i really hope that this one realm becomes clean like 90 % of the people playing here desire it to be and damn well deserve it.

[Pallzdani]

We copy each other almost completely yet again.

*cough* forum post plagiarism *cough*

{joking of course}

Hehe, great minds think a-like ;D

[Peregrine]

A read a lot of BS right here.. let's be honest you never really had to gear up anything cause you always had the shop.
Pve being hard for a multiboxer give me a break i used to know a guy that just picked up 2 tanks few healers and went berserk in ICC . Compare that to a normal player who has to co-op with 24 other players in order to make it even half way.
As far as PVP goes again you never earned an item in your life casue you had the shop + even with the low gear when its 15 or more chars you just spam your instant spells and that is more than enough to kill someone.Not to mention ruining big bg's like AV and IOC
As far as making gold you know as well as i do (if not better) that molten/warmane used to have a lot of ways to exploit to get anything, gold being as simple as **** until last few months when they started to fix stuff left and right so what i am trying to say you never had to farm gold in your life.
You've had your ways for almost 6 years now ruining events,world pvp, hell even pve at times and you still will in 6 other realms just not Lordaeron i really hope that this one realm becomes clean like 90 % of the people playing here desire it to be and damn well deserve it.

Judging from your response ur very biased and mad ??? at multiboxers?Pve easy as MB?You are joking?Pvp easy?Dunno where you played but "easy" is not the word id be using. You sound as if multiboxer can ruin entire realm,and from your response you are very very angry at them.

[MrHelp88]

A read a lot of BS right here.. let's be honest you never really had to gear up anything cause you always had the shop.
As far as making gold you know as well as i do (if not better) that molten/warmane used to have a lot of ways to exploit to get anything, gold being as simple as **** until last few months when they started to fix stuff left and right so what i am trying to say you never had to farm gold in your life.
You've had your ways for almost 6 years now ruining events,world pvp, hell even pve at times and you still will in 6 other realms just not Lordaeron i really hope that this one realm becomes clean like 90 % of the people playing here desire it to be and damn well deserve it.

Exactly. Does not belong on Lordaeron - multiboxers have every other realm for that ****.

At the very basis, the system allows for unfair advantages. You might as well give these people instant 80 and Shadowmourne as soon as the TBC xpac is released, maybe at the cost of one less person in a battlegrounds. Even with that one person gone, the person with level 80 health and an incredible weapon, coordinating at a level that is extremely hard -nearly impossible - for two seperate people simply isn't fun or productive for anyone besides the person with Shadowmourne.

[Peregrine]

Exactly. Does not belong on Lordaeron - multiboxers have every other realm for that ****.

Same can be said for every other realm.Especially when fixes are ported.You dont belong here.

[osiris123]

Judging from your response ur very biased and mad ??? at multiboxers?Pve easy as MB?You are joking?Pvp easy?Dunno where you played but "easy" is not the word id be using. You sound as if multiboxer can ruin entire realm,and from your response you are very very angry at them.

Maybe cause i had to deal with them for dunno 5 years and that is just here in warmane. And as far as the rest goes the last i can remember was a certain event called Wartorn chest everything was going well it was fun we had old school style world pvp until.... 50 shamans show up and start nuking left and right and this is nothing compared to what i have experienced.
We have had to deal with them for a long time and every time someone said something against it we got the famous "it raises the challenge" post linked to us.. that basically meant DEAL WITH IT. And now that we are getting the chance of multiboxer free realm 1 out of 7 seems MORE than fair.

[Peregrine]

Hence lmit MB to 5 man.Problem solved.Both parties are happy.

[Pallzdani]

Pve easy as MB?You are joking?Pvp easy?Dunno where you played but "easy" is not the word id be using.

Do not generalize, as the last guy who did that found out why.
PvP elements- World PvP, Arena, Duels, BG's, Rated BG's.
World PvP:
-Ganking low levels: Easy for everyone
-Fighting on level players whilst levelling: Easy as ****.
-Planned/Grouped: Hard, but do-able.
Arena:
2's: Joke at low MMR (with the exception of good players just starting to gain MMR), but very hard-impossible at high MMR.
3's: Same as 2's.
5's: Capping bracket for you guys.
Duels:
1. Why did I even list this?o.o
BG's
1. Easy. End of. All it comes down to is whether you end up against a premade or not. Then there's a challenge.
RBG's:
Random team with no comms: Pretty much square field, except you can one shot EFC's.
A pre-formed and experienced team with Comms: Very hard/Impossible

Need me to list the PvE elements?:>

I see a lot more 'Easy' and 'Do-able' in there than there are 'hard' 'Impossible' if you do want to generalize again

[MrHelp88]

Same can be said for every other realm.Especially when fixes are ported.

Except every other realm isn't a "hardcore realm" that intends to bring a mostly equally difficult experience for everyone. You're either completely missing the point, or you are absolutely, stunningly daft.

[MrHelp88]

Do not generalize, as the last guy who did that found out why.
PvP elements- World PvP, Arena, Duels, BG's, Rated BG's.
World PvP:
-Ganking low levels: Easy for everyone, a complete joke for multiboxers. -
-Fighting on level players whilst levelling: Easy as ****. -
-Planned/Grouped: Hard, but do-able.
Arena:
2's: Joke at low MMR (with the exception of good players just starting to gain MMR), but very hard-impossible at high MMR. -
3's: Same as 2's. -
BG's - Easy. End of. All it comes down to is whether you end up against a premade or not. Then there's a challenge. -
RBG's - 1.Very hard/Impossible

Highlighted (also added a dash to the right for better visibility) is where it provides an unfair advantage. Not highlighted is where multiboxing is extremely rarely, if ever, used. Personally never seen a multiboxer even attempt an RBG, or 5's arena (though I admit, never bothered with that ****), but I see many with the bolded (excluding 3's).

This should be enough of a reason for y'all.

[osiris123]

Hence lmit MB to 5 man.Problem solved.Both parties are happy.

No this won't solve the problem just make it 1 inch smaller this has to be dealt with either ban it for good or leave it like it always was. Cause i don't want to run around leveling when suddenly 5 flame shock debuffs appear on me.

[Peregrine]

Except every other realm isn't a "hardcore realm" that intends to bring a mostly equally difficult experience for everyone. You're either completely missing the point, or you are absolutely, stunningly daft.

Sorry,only hard thing about Lordaeron is leveling.Rest makes no difference.Same raids i did 100x times,no new mechanics.Nothing.Did it at retail,piece of cake ,did it here on Dw.,piece of cake.Did it on former Lord,piece of cake.Dunno why so people see hardcore in raid that are active for last 7 years.Did it old school with no gear on Lordaeron ,realm first with no donations.And all posssible scenarios you can imagine when it comes to Wrath.I know what is hardcore,and for me the only hardcore thing can be described ulduar 226 mode and LOD 0,5,10% debuff(most likely 5% for is a cookie)

Etc etc

Truly hard core is leveling and rates,where it takes xxx time to grind rep,leveling,proffesions.
Rest makes no difference,Is A Cookie will show you that.

[Pallzdani]

Rest makes no difference,Is A Cookie will show you that.

Do not start that **** here...