Achievement points to determine rank, how about honor kills ?

[Kempachu]

Because log in -> idle -> increase "activity" without doing anything.
It's easy enough to get 1000 achievement points, I don't think you even have to go out of your way to hunt them if you only go around doing some available content instead of skipping it.

Why not this ?
PVE and PVP. Each should participate in the activity rank by 50%. Those that play both will benefit most. That is only natural solution.
Or just add to current system PVP bonus.
Many ppl like me log and do pvp all the long and dont give a damn... cent about some pve achi crap numbers.
There are more pvp'er than pve'ers actually but u chosed pve based on activity..
MoP is already dead and more ppl are leaving and now this.. Aint helping Molten.

[iSullivan]

No need to argue the achievement point system to determine the rank - it's really smart, what will be smarter is adding honor kills and arenas played to the mix. As people said 10 times already there are players all kinds of players - pvp, pve, people who have 6k achievements 1 arena game played and 500 hks, people who farmed thunderfury, sulfuras (didn't donate) and other rare/cool **** and still have 2,5k achivements etc.

Lets say I have 35k honor kills and 3k achievement points, 35hks will give me .6 points and 3k achievements will give me .5 points, I get the higher + the accounts standing points - gg.

Achievements should determine how do people wanna play the game.

[Ataxes]

If a guy with 1k ap gets as much vote points as a 3k guy (1 per day) and me with 6120 ap earn 1.2, it's not worth it anyways

[Jduffy92]

if you're not happy with the way they run the server you're always free to find another 1.

So you're suggesting I quit because I'm not happy with a clearly biased point system?

I've collected enough achievements in my life through passively playing on retail when wotlk PvE was still in fashion.

I'm not prepared to do it all a third time and I shouldn't be left out of anything because of that.

If you're not happy with the way I reply to posts you're always free to find another private server with different forums.

[Mercy]

I would like to re-emphasize a point I made in another thread.

Besides, we don't want to encourage honor kill exploiting. :)

[Skuddy]

So you're suggesting I quit because I'm not happy with a clearly biased point system?

I've collected enough achievements in my life through passively playing on retail when wotlk PvE was still in fashion.

I'm not prepared to do it all a third time and I shouldn't be left out of anything because of that.

If you're not happy with the way I reply to posts you're always free to find another private server with different forums.

that's exactly what i'm suggesting. and yes you should be left out if you "don't feel" like meeting their criteria. if you want to be lazy that's fine, but don't complain when that laziness bites you in the ***.

[aryanprince]

I would like to re-emphasize a point I made in another thread.
Besides, we don't want to encourage honor kill exploiting. :)

But you want fly hack exploiting for the people who want to explore the whole map in 5 min to get ****load of achivements?
As I remember, when the forging of Warmane happened, we where promissed that we will participate. Now again noone listen us? How can I be inactive weih 100 000 kills and 900 achivements?

[Obnoxious]

But you want fly hack exploiting for the people who want to explore the whole map in 5 min to get ****load of achivements?
As I remember, when the forging of Warmane happened, we where promissed that we will participate. Now again noone listen us? How can I be inactive weih 100 000 kills and 900 achivements?

What one thing has to do with the other? No, we don't want either, but kills aren't a good measure when we don't want to give a reward for people who choose to only play one small aspect of the game, and one which can get faked much more easily. Where do you get your logic and arguments from?

As far as the whole game content is concerned, you're not active. You're repeating the same tiny slice of it over and over, while leaving the major part of it out. For the Nth time, that's your choice and you're free to do it, you won't be "punished" for it, your game play will remain the same, you simply won't get rewarded by us if you don't meet our criteria.

[aryanprince]

What one thing has to do with the other? No, we don't want either, but kills aren't a good measure when we don't want to give a reward for people who choose to only play one small aspect of the game, and one which can get faked much more easily. Where do you get your logic and arguments from?

As far as the whole game content is concerned, you're not active. You're repeating the same tiny slice of it over and over, while leaving the major part of it out. For the Nth time, that's your choice and you're free to do it, you won't be "punished" for it, your game play will remain the same, you simply won't get rewarded by us if you don't meet our criteria.

Let me repeat, and then tell me again that i am inactive. I have 90 days playtime on all my chars. Am I inactive?

[Obnoxious]

Let me repeat, and then tell me again that i am inactive. I have 90 days playtime on all my chars. Am I inactive?

Have you went out and about the game world and done more activities than PvP, things that naturally and without extra effort would give you achievement points, more than enough to meet our criteria? If the answer is no, you aren't active in the way we want people to be active. You are focusing on just one aspect and complaining that we aren't rewarding you for it, similarly to a twink who complained they want to twink at level 19 and be able to go do arenas against level 80 people or be allowed to do raids that require much better equipment than they can use.

[Beka7a]

How exactly do you not even have 1000 achievement points ? I have 1500+ on alts i havent opened the achievement window on.The new activity system is great and those with less then 1000 points should really think about what are you really doing in this game.

[iSullivan]

What one thing has to do with the other? No, we don't want either, but kills aren't a good measure when we don't want to give a reward for people who choose to only play one small aspect of the game, and one which can get faked much more easily. Where do you get your logic and arguments from?

As far as the whole game content is concerned, you're not active. You're repeating the same tiny slice of it over and over, while leaving the major part of it out. For the Nth time, that's your choice and you're free to do it, you won't be "punished" for it, your game play will remain the same, you simply won't get rewarded by us if you don't meet our criteria.

Shut down the blackrock realm then people there are obviously inactive by warmane standards, as for the whole game content part, people had 5-10-15k achievements before molten was wiped or on retail etc and doing achievements over and over again is the definition of wasting time for some people.
Also I'm not arguing here for the sake of .2 points, it is just that having only achievement points to determine activity rank doesn't look right.

[Obnoxious]

Shut down the blackrock realm then people there are obviously inactive by warmane standards, as for the whole game content part, people had 5-10-15k achievements before molten was wiped or on retail etc and doing achievements over and over again is the definition of wasting time for some people.
Also I'm not arguing here for the sake of .2 points, it is just that having only achievement points to determine activity rank doesn't look right.

I don't know if Blackrock will be handled - assuming people can't get the minimum achievement points from PvP only, which more than one person has said is possible. What people have on Molten or on retail is irrelevant, and if you consider it a waste of time, simply don't do it. Your game will remain the same, you just won't receive a reward from us.

[aryanprince]

...you aren't active in the way we want people to be active...

So now you are telling me how to play the game?

[Obnoxious]

So now you are telling me how to play the game?

For the Nth time, that's your choice and you're free to do it, you won't be "punished" for it, your game play will remain the same, you simply won't get rewarded by us if you don't meet our criteria.

Am I, really?