Well from what we have heard from the forums and i suppose you can just ask around a few people to see what is wrong...
You heard something? How about you test the stuff yourself before spreading around bull**** which is not true.
From other people? I guess those other people have the same trimmed knowledge than you have.
As the poster above me stated already "Just leave this subforum"...
You heard something? How about you test the stuff yourself before spreading around bull**** which is not true.
From other people? I guess those other people have the same trimmed knowledge than you have.
As the poster above me stated already "Just leave this subforum"...
To be honest i don't have to explain it cause many people have already stated that :) I don't spread any bull****... If you analyse retail videos to warmanes videos the DPS is way off the charts... You can't deny that... Go look for it yourself... Lol you are on your high horse again... Chill and take in some information yourself for once... You should leave the subforum more like it cause you're some MOP shining knight fan boy or something, defending it till the end... Look at the damage and look up/talk to people and look at the calculations/bugs there are on the server and you would be conviced... But i'm suppose you are too blind by your ignorance.
the issue with locks is not locks.. it's buff stacking and improper haste calculations. my lock's damage on target dummy or players is similar to that of any retail youtube vid in grievous gear. i mean the numbers themselves, not the dps. like on my shadow priest, i can get more ticks of devouring plague then should even be possible :P i think with a bunch of haste buffs i could probably 1 shot ppl with DP :P
To be honest i don't have to explain it cause many people have already stated that :) I don't spread any bull****... If you analyse retail videos to warmanes videos the DPS is way off the charts... You can't deny that... Go look for it yourself... Lol you are on your high horse again... Chill and take in some information yourself for once... You should leave the subforum more like it cause you're some MOP shining knight fan boy or something, defending it till the end... Look at the damage and look up/talk to people and look at the calculations/bugs there are on the server and you would be conviced... But i'm suppose you are too blind by your ignorance.
And again you have zero idea what you are talking about.
TBH buffstacking has been fixed recently. I do even know the source of the fix for buffstacking. Yet they reverted those changes recently which is kinda sad.
"If you analyse retail videos to warmanes videos the DPS is way off the charts..."
How should give this a valid comparison? Did you ever think about that the videos released of retail kills are considered progression thus being done on way lower itemlevel?
We don't have any kind of progression since the time between the release of new bosses is so high that you can easily outgear the next boss.
The damage of current classes is ok-ish with some classes being a little bit stronger than they should and some classes being weaker than they should.
I am not on a high horse and I am neither being ignorant. I play on this realm with a lot of different classes and I played some of them on retail.
You do not even play here anymore so you can't make a valid argument about the CURRENT situation.
And again you have zero idea what you are talking about.
TBH buffstacking has been fixed recently. I do even know the source of the fix for buffstacking. Yet they reverted those changes recently which is kinda sad.
"If you analyse retail videos to warmanes videos the DPS is way off the charts..."
How should give this a valid comparison? Did you ever think about that the videos released of retail kills are considered progression thus being done on way lower itemlevel?
We don't have any kind of progression since the time between the release of new bosses is so high that you can easily outgear the next boss.
The damage of current classes is ok-ish with some classes being a little bit stronger than they should and some classes being weaker than they should.
I am not on a high horse and I am neither being ignorant. I play on this realm with a lot of different classes and I played some of them on retail.
You do not even play here anymore so you can't make a valid argument about the CURRENT situation.
Well i played a bit before going to Lordaeron so i am not completely clueless... Not much has changed altho i noticed a flat nerf to DPS and the partly buff stacking fix... Otherwise i did not know any major sweeping changes to dps so most of the dps that i have had in MOP has been insanely stupid at least warrior burst/stable dps... It's like 2-5X times when it comes to high burst single/aoe damage but a bit lower on some fights with a lot of movement :) That's why there's many warriors... ******ed dps and people can't deny that :P Well yeah it was in progression but it's an IDEA of what DPS people should do aprox! Of course it's gonna be a bit higher but not THIS high as it is on MOP. Altho the progression wise idea is broken due to everyone already has full gear almost :)
Well personally I think that the DPS increase compensates for vengeance not being fixed. Tanks are supposed to be doing 170-200k+ dps on fights.
Yeah tanks DPS is very low comparison to what everyone else is doing... Tanks should have A HIGH boost in DPS if vengance actually worked... I mean look in SOO... One of the highest DPS on some fights was a Prot warrior due to the sheer vengeance stack he got from the boss... Good example is Garrosh before nerfs :)
The people here acting so defensive just cover up the fact that their class is positively bugged, is way off the charts.
You guys do not need to be good in algebra to notice the difference between legit and positively/negatively bugged skills. You would naturally feel that something isn't right. For example, imagine yourself with full pvp gear and you got hit by one chaos bolt and your left with 20% hp from 100%. That is imbalanced. Blizzard will never allow that kind of dmg. Thanks to the partial buff stack fix though, but it was only a partial fix, other classes could still abuse the bug.
Noobs will look pro and feel like a pro when they roll warlock just because it's the bugged flavor of the month. Then once it gets fixed, their happy days are over.
I'm excited to see the drastic drop of warlock population once warmane devs realized that it's time for locks to get a fix and force those bug abusers to roll another overpowered class.
To be honest i don't have to explain it cause many people have already stated that :) I don't spread any bull****... If you analyse retail videos to warmanes videos the DPS is way off the charts... You can't deny that... Go look for it yourself... Lol you are on your high horse again... Chill and take in some information yourself for once... You should leave the subforum more like it cause you're some MOP shining knight fan boy or something, defending it till the end... Look at the damage and look up/talk to people and look at the calculations/bugs there are on the server and you would be conviced... But i'm suppose you are too blind by your ignorance.
No point in arguing with children. He obviously never played retail mop so he has no idea what he's talking about.
The people here acting so defensive just cover up the fact that their class is positively bugged, is way off the charts.
You guys do not need to be good in algebra to notice the difference between legit and positively/negatively bugged skills. You would naturally feel that something isn't right. For example, imagine yourself with full pvp gear and you got hit by one chaos bolt and your left with 20% hp from 100%. That is imbalanced. Blizzard will never allow that kind of dmg. Thanks to the partial buff stack fix though, but it was only a partial fix, other classes could still abuse the bug.
Noobs will look pro and feel like a pro when they roll warlock just because it's the bugged flavor of the month. Then once it gets fixed, their happy days are over.
I'm excited to see the drastic drop of warlock population once warmane devs realized that it's time for locks to get a fix and force those bug abusers to roll another overpowered class.
Someone stuck on 1200 detected. Most warlock spells scale properly. Ironically, destruction spells still have the old patch's scaling, they should be stronger now.
Lolmaru, you have no clue how MoP works right now.
Nor do you have any ****ing clue how classes in 5.4 patch but 5.2 gear should work.
You can shove your retail exp. up your ***, because it's completely irrelevant due to the patch and gear progression's disparity.
Also, you are not playing on it, have not been playing on it for several months, you have no clue how it works.
Go and play on Lordaeron and don't try to argue about something you know nothing of.
Let's all have a drink and smell fluffy kittens and it would be all right i suppose? :) Think this thread could be closed now since most people made their points... Someone PM a mod cause i'm too lazy! :D
Wars are just to easy to play, i just cap arena with my new ( atm 469ilvl war ) 11 of 11 games won vs almost just 522 guys. ( partner was a 505 feral )
Guys just play a ww monk or a rog and then start a war you will just feel like god with your 12 Keybinds you need as War.
Once I faced affli/moonkin/resto shami in 3s and their dmg feels absolutly broken in a positive way. They were just spreading their dots and each of us died in a matter of seconds. I dont know what is wrong in MoP that dots alone hit as hard as other classes during their burst phase.
Really? With all the bugs Frostwolf has to offer, do you think anyone would even care if you have Gladiator title? It seems you want to be seen wearing a Gladiator title knowing that you only got it with the help of positive bugs? Yea, go ahead and take arenas seriously.
Everyone take a look at the PvP ladder of Frostwolf. More than 50% of overpowered classes are included in top 50. It's always like this on Molten/Warmane. It's only a place for positively bugged classes. It's clearly a joke.
In any event, I blame WARMANE for every negative experiences we have. If they only prioritized fixing all the class bugs first instead of adding more PvE content, we would never have this kinds of debate and threads. Just think how it is knowing all the classes are fixed. There would be a real competition, the way it should be, and we will all love it.
I lost all my 2200 rating achievement on every bracket, I lost 230,000+ Honorable Kills! I almost got The Bloodthirsty title. And I lost a lot of friends on that tragic day Molten got Hijacked.
We the players from MOLTEN deserve what we always wanted, a class bug free realm. THEN PLAYERS LIKE YOU, THAT DEFEND THEIR OWN CLASS JUST TO CONFUSE AND HIDE THE TRUTH FROM EVERYONE ARE RUINING EVERYTHING! Just so that you could keep your own selfish fun.
Nothing is bugged on Frostwolf. It's your own computer or internet or whatever that is not working properly. Frostwolf is a 100% perfectly working server.
*Looks at Warmane devs*
Did I say it good? Plz dont't kill me! I'll try to make them stop D:!!
Seriously tho you guys arguining about a game =D Rage your *** off, take chill pill, then just leave the game for a few months and pray to whatever there is to pray to that it will be better ;)