9k players on server and no1 doing anything group related ..

[ucizapinje]

que for bg-s 30+ min on ally side
arena ques are few mins but u playing vs same team over and over again
cant find damn tank for hc-s 30min-1h, no1 wants to w8 dat much for hc
everyone leveling alts or what ? o.O
ps: Release Wotlk asap

[sabinprosper1]

que for bg-s 30+ min on ally side
arena ques are few mins but u playing vs same team over and over again
cant find damn tank for hc-s 30min-1h, no1 wants to w8 dat much for hc
everyone leveling alts or what ? o.O
ps: Release Wotlk asap

Historically, tanks for pick up groups have always been hard to find on this game.
Also, there are not 9k players online at the moment - it's not quite peak time yet for population.

[Brinley]

Lol who cares for 70 ****s, ofc ppl waiting and doing nothing now, there's nothing important to do, except lvling / farming gold, proffs, unless you're some kind of autist

[lightxd]

THIS JUST IN!! NO one is doing bc content when the expansion comes out in ~9 days!!!

Such a surprise. Much news.

Think a little bit man

[buuren]

Lol who cares for 70 ****s, ofc ppl waiting and doing nothing now, there's nothing important to do, except lvling / farming gold, proffs, unless you're some kind of autist

It appears to me you are slightly disillusioned and misinformed. Doing stuff at 70, like raiding, matters. The reason being is that if you "manage" to get your gear to at least to T5, those items will perform well up until lvl 77-78 and if you manage to get your hands to T6 and sunwell, you can even raid Naxx using that gear.

Thing is as soon as WotLK is released, there will be hundreds of players doing the same quests (I am counting only friendly faction players). Situation will be even worse once you start competing with opposite faction. In this environment leveling through quests becomes extremely inefficient. Solution? Rush clearing dungeons. This is what "hardcore" players do once they arrive to Northrend. The faster you clean dungeons, the better your exp per hour is (captain obvious). So in order to kill dragons faster, you need good gear and at the moment the best gear which is available to us is from TBC raids. Hence the more gear you manage to get, the faster you will level up in WotLK.

But if you a random casual player who has no plans for realm firsts, then yes probably shouldn't care about min/maxing your gear and just focus on professions/leveling alts and since we have very few hardcore communities, thus the lack of "raiding" activity at lvl 70, because everyone assumes there is no point wasting time raids, if the gear will be replaced by quests in Northrend.

[lightxd]

Wrong. So very very wrong. I could write 5 paragraphs talking about how everything you just said was wrong. But it's easier just to say you are wrong.

[sabinprosper1]

Wrong. So very very wrong. I could write 5 paragraphs talking about how everything you just said was wrong. But it's easier just to say you are wrong.

Why is he so wrong? All he is trying to say is that having full t6/sunwell gear will help you if you are trying to quickly rush raid content at 80.
With that being said, I don't think that should really be the main reason to do TBC raids currently. I raid what's open right now simply because I want to and it's fun despite being a little easy.

[Nazara]

depends what heroic - thats first , 2: as horde i didnt do even 1 bg (just 1 that i left after 1 minute doesnt count) as it is huge waste of time, haha waste time on a losing bg to get 100 honor? 30 minutes for that and wotlk in some weeks? nope no thanks - u can keep going bg alone and wait 2 hours for a que for all i care.
3: release wotlk asap? agreed :P

[Karks]

The bg activity during TBC is the fault of warmane's staff.

9000 people playing and not a single Eots or AV open during the entire expansion. Mistakes were made, lets move past it to wrath.

[Carposo2]

Well, it has been almost a month of TBC, many people have reached max benefits from HC groups and dont do that anymore.

Second, I highly suggest to not spam the /global chat... as a tank, those are the first ones that goes on my ignore list.

[JadeK1tten]

But if you a random casual player who has no plans for realm firsts, then yes probably shouldn't care about min/maxing your gear and just focus on professions/leveling alts and since we have very few hardcore communities, thus the lack of "raiding" activity at lvl 70, because everyone assumes there is no point wasting time raids, if the gear will be replaced by quests in Northrend.

Ah so doing pointless achievements that give you nothing is considered "hardcore" or something now? Lol. You really shouldn't be calling others casuals.

[Dekhatress]

Ah so doing pointless achievements that give you nothing is considered "hardcore" or something now? Lol. You really shouldn't be calling others casuals.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...lish/hard-core

[lightxd]

Why is he so wrong? All he is trying to say is that having full t6/sunwell gear will help you if you are trying to quickly rush raid content at 80.
With that being said, I don't think that should really be the main reason to do TBC raids currently. I raid what's open right now simply because I want to and it's fun despite being a little easy.

He is wrong because your t6 gets replaced very quickly like around level ~74-75, unless you are stubborn and keep it just cause. And by no means does it make leveling noticeably faster, you kill stuff just as easy and quickly without it.

Also saying you will use 70 gear in your level 80 raids? Lol NOPE! If you don't craft your gear like you should because it's easy, then quest greens would still blow level 70 gear out of the water. And also rush clearing dungeons to power level? Uhhh no again sorry. You remember how the first people hit 80 back in wrath? They grinded. They just mass pulled a lot of stuff and grinded it down one by one. Questing alone is quicker than massing dungeons.

So yes, if you are specifically doing raids so you will have a faster leveling experience and/or getting pvp gear for the same reason.... you aren't getting that much done. But if you are just raiding for the hell of it because it's fun, go for it! Have at it man! But don't try to convince yourself that it will be worth it in the long run in terms of doing quests

I could go on and on about how he is wrong but I will leave it at that.

[Carposo2]

He is wrong because your t6 gets replaced very quickly like around level ~74-75, unless you are stubborn and keep it just cause. And by no means does it make leveling noticeably faster, you kill stuff just as easy and quickly without it.

Hardly..

I`ll give by example my class: Prot Warrior.

SWP Shield: Sword Breaker's Bulwark - http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Sword_Breaker%27s_Bulwark
1st Available Blue shield from a dungeon: Riot Shield - http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Riot_Shield

SWP is still superior, not by much, but still superior than that one. The next available shield form Wotlk would be from an heroic dungeon, which require alot of defense rating, that you dont regularly get from world drops or questing.

[sabinprosper1]

He is wrong because your t6 gets replaced very quickly like around level ~74-75, unless you are stubborn and keep it just cause. And by no means does it make leveling noticeably faster, you kill stuff just as easy and quickly without it.

Also saying you will use 70 gear in your level 80 raids? Lol NOPE! If you don't craft your gear like you should because it's easy, then quest greens would still blow level 70 gear out of the water. And also rush clearing dungeons to power level? Uhhh no again sorry. You remember how the first people hit 80 back in wrath? They grinded. They just mass pulled a lot of stuff and grinded it down one by one. Questing alone is quicker than massing dungeons.

So yes, if you are specifically doing raids so you will have a faster leveling experience and/or getting pvp gear for the same reason.... you aren't getting that much done. But if you are just raiding for the hell of it because it's fun, go for it! Have at it man! But don't try to convince yourself that it will be worth it in the long run in terms of doing quests

I could go on and on about how he is wrong but I will leave it at that.

Yeah sorry, but you're wrong. It's very likely that you will see people using some T6 equivalent gear in Naxx, especially if they rushed leveling by grinding like you are saying.
Here's another example...
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=34335 - drops from KJ in SWP
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=34199 - drops from Twins in SWP
Hell even http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=32500 - Illidan in BT

Now compare those to the early blues you can get in WotLK:
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=37112 - Culling of Strath dungeon
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=42443 - BS crafted

The difference is negligible and you certainly wont be replacing some slots with 74-75 gear - show me one example of Sunwell gear that is much worse than a 74 item and I will believe you then.

I don't know about you, but I'd actually prefer the KJ mace over the crafted level 77 mace.

All I'm saying is, you can't deny that some BT/SWP gear could be effectively used at least for a short time at 80.