This server will become P2W ?

[Uzihunter]

buying gear in the game which is all about OBTAINING that gear via hard work and time...This really really puts me down...

[Kredes]

Dude its not retail, private community newbs just want to buy the best items and flex in capitals or own other noobs in bg n arenas ,still struggling to get 2k rating in 3s, so they have to buy wrathful weapons and so to keep on killing newbs. This is how it always looked like on molten. People dont want to progress through content and earn their items as the time passes by, they just want bis, now.
They said there wont be lolmourne on coin shop ,but as soon as someone exploit its questline we can expect it to look like on deathwing or ranga.
Imo max what you could dontate should be anything expect icc and rs n/hc

People like this should play on Fun servers then.

[Notamonster]

So some people think, Its a charitable realm ?

[Feralbeard]

If the best donation gear will still remain 1 tier below highest obtainable tier, even when all WOTLK content will be released, then it is fine, at least or me.
PvP is more sensitive in this situation. If you will ever be able to donate for Wrathful gear, then it will ruin balance and undeserved noobs will get higher ratings than they should.

[Swarmer]

so what makes this server hardcore now? 1x rates?

[Notamonster]

Dont know but i really didnot like the idea of naxx as well because Naxx was supposed to be just a gearing raid to get ready for real wotlk raids i,e, Ulduar, TOC
But atm naxx is causing instability over guilds in both factions over realm as i have witnessed it. Hope they dont do anything funny with ulduar raid as well, whatever they did to Naxx.

And yea not to mention, the guys who jumped a lot with giving feedbacks without a brief thinking to make Naxx like this over buffed are almost nowhere in the realm

[helltrix]

This p2w cheapens the experience for me. By a lot.

I'm a PvP player from arena-tournament who occasionally raids and I found the hardcore aspect and blizzlike PvE gear very appealing. Even though I'm disgusted by grinding and leveling, I thought to myself that it's worth it, it's going to be fun playing arena without everyone having bauble and half pve gear. It's going to feel rewarding when you get those trinkets and offpieces yourself.

I was wrong. :/

[Zardonic]

It was stated even before the realm got released and you just realized it?
There is no private server without donor benefits, they need money to keep it 'free'(so free)... you know.
Most of those F2P games earn way more money than those P2P games. Welcome to reality, it hurts I know.

[Uzihunter]

agree with helltrix,it really cheapens the expirience...because this is online game,is not only about you,is about all other people around you,if someone is skipping content and buying certain gear that for sure effect you in some way,at the end it destroys feeling of playing on progressive hardcore realm...

[Uzihunter]

It was stated even before the realm got released and you just realized it?
There is no private server without donor benefits, they need money to keep it 'free'(so free)... you know.
Most of those F2P games earn way more money than those P2P games. Welcome to reality, it hurts I know.

Like I told,why they don't sell instant 70 or 80? or some exotic unavailable mounts? that should bring enough cash on such a big server...a looot people hate leveling tho,just put big price tag on insta 70 or 80 and cash is here..we play very altfriendly expansion

[Swarmer]

It was stated even before the realm got released and you just realized it?

im guilty of not knowing this cause i didnt follow the making of the server. But all i heard was how this will be the most hardcore server where everyone is on the same level and has the same opportunity and where time consumed in game will really benefit you and make you better than others.

But now i read you can buy gear. Is the difference between this hardcore serv and the others just the ilvl277 gear in the shop when all content will be released?
And the Naxx thing Notamonster mentioned....thats just a straight up custom server. I mean if the community decided they want this its all good. But how the server was promoted ans what actually became is 2 totaly different things.

To me this became just a Deathwing/Ragnaros serv with 1x rates.

[Zardonic]

To me this became just a Deathwing/Ragnaros serv with 1x rates.

Sort of, just I hope the heroic requirement will stay even after the whole content is released. But even if it's P2W the prices are still high and they might re-think this 'rule' any moment as nothing is set in stone as we've seen.
So yeah, we have like a year and something to enjoy the game without full BiS peepz... by that time all the farmers (free players) will have about the same gear, so I doubt it'll inflict that much of an impact to the older peepz that kept playing during that time. Anyway it won't break anything if you play mostly for the PvE content this will even help you clear things faster which is a good thing and it's meaningless for the arena as well, because gear doesn't give you an 'IWIN' button under any circumances.

[Obnoxious]

Would you rather it be so "hardcore" that no one can play it because it doesn't exists?
Or how much have you been up to donating (regularly) to maintain Lordaeron and show that we don't need a store to encourage donations from others?
How many of the people who whine about "pay to win" are actually donors who just won't use their coins in Lordaeron?

Don't get me wrong, it's fine to just leech, we are an open and free private server after all. But if you don't donate, be it because you can't or because you don't want to, the very least in humbleness you can do is deal with the fact that things cost money, and if you're not paying, someone else is paying for you. We have to offer what we know, from years of experience, people will want to donate for and there's no going around it unless people "prove us wrong" with donations for Lordaeron without coins being used. But who am I kidding?

[helltrix]

it's meaningless for the arena as well, because gear doesn't give you an 'IWIN' button under any circumances.

Yeah lol sure.

[Skoobydoo]

This p2w cheapens the experience for me. By a lot.

I'm a PvP player from arena-tournament who occasionally raids and I found the hardcore aspect and blizzlike PvE gear very appealing. Even though I'm disgusted by grinding and leveling, I thought to myself that it's worth it, it's going to be fun playing arena without everyone having bauble and half pve gear. It's going to feel rewarding when you get those trinkets and offpieces yourself.

I was wrong. :/

but they explained bis current gear wont be added in shop for 2+ months after release of the current content.so that mean,lets say for ulduar content, you will have 8+ weeks to get get the gear and AFTER that people will be able to buy it with coins.the way i see it its not really skipping a content but more like catch up for alts and people who just come to the server.btw the gear they will be selling right after release of a raid or season is 10 man or honor gear( if i understand correctly thats the current plan).so...they wont effect us that much.