WotLK Ridiculous multiboxing

[Deathsmaster]

Your logic is false, teamspeak and add-ons do not directly send commands to the toon to control it. The player pressed W, and the caracter moves. The multiboxer pressed W and 25 toons move. This is very different from Raidcall etc.

Really? where in the terms of service does it say only software that broadcasts keystrokes is deemed third party software we're talking about? there is no difference.

However this is said. :
THAT IN BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT'S SOLE DETERMINATION
Meaning its up to Blizz, and they haven't done a thing to stop it in 10 years. therefore I don't see how you can't see its your logic that is false, and it is you trying to justify stopping something that you don't agree with.

[Beanlord]

Then you have not tried playing against 20 toon best in slot multiboxer, because its impossible. Its not a matter of being bad at the game, as soon as you come into the range of shaman shocks your instantly die. There is nothing you can do, he instantly heals with 5 Best in Slot healers, this is not a matter of sucking at the game.

There must be a cap to multiboxing. I have no problem playing against a 5 toon multiboxer. 25 with best in slot gear = impossible = unfair and is certainly in NO WAY possible on retail.

I'm pretty sure it is possible. And if you're having problems with the healers just constantly interrupt and stun the shamans and nuke heals, then deal with the shamans. Of course this all requires coordination, but hard /=/ impossible.

[JohnZwack]

I personally don't mind this "ridiculous" multiboxing. It brings new wind to the bgs and I find it simply amusing to get one shot like that.

[QanqerOP]

Really? where in the terms of service does it say only software that broadcasts keystrokes is deemed third party software we're talking about? there is no difference.

However this is said. :
THAT IN BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT'S SOLE DETERMINATION
Meaning its up to Blizz, and they haven't done a thing to stop it in 10 years. therefore I don't see how you can't see its your logic that is false, and it is you trying to justify stopping something that you don't agree with.

This has been addressed, I don't know a million times now ? On retail there was a monthly subscription that put a cap on how many characters you could box.
For a 20+ MB setup you would pay over 250euro a month, which is unsustainable. So for you to claim that this is the way blizzard intended it is just as false.

[Sixtyninee]

Well in that logic, teamspeak, raidcalls, and to be honest addons are cause to be called botting, they all give an advantage

Before you say they dont, let me ask you this. Can you talk faster than most people can type. Yes
Do addons help you play your character by putting an interface up and wide range of other things to make playing easier? Yes.
Are they made by Blizz? No. Well I guess its third party software that give an unfair advantage. period given your pointed out line of thinking.

EDIT: I just woke up, this whole post should be directed towards the guy you're replying to. Also the misinterpretation of the TOS is quite amusing.

I think you should find a better example before even attempting to prove a point as insane as that one.


But if you'd like to continue with your logic then I'm assuming that you're against using an operating system to play. I mean it's third-party after all. Let's not forget keyboards either, bindings are obviously faster so it's unfair. And seriously, do you even know what a bot is? Because it sure as hell isn't a HUD, which is all those addons provide.

And yet, in the end, this whole server is against Blizzard's TOS so why on earth would anyone think that it applies here?

This has been addressed, I don't know a million times now ? On retail there was a monthly subscription that put a cap on how many characters you could box.
For a 20+ MB setup you would pay over 250euro a month, which is unsustainable. So for you to claim that this is the way blizzard intended it is just as false.

I can think of plenty of people who pay that here.

I'm pretty sure it is possible. And if you're having problems with the healers just constantly interrupt and stun the shamans and nuke heals, then deal with the shamans. Of course this all requires coordination, but hard /=/ impossible.

To be fair, and I'm sure you've witnessed this before, anything with a difficulty level above spray and pray is impossible for a lot of people.

lol 3 threads on the forums open about the same multiboxer.
Whoever he is, keep up the good work, your trolling surely affects them.

This. This right here.

[Kasumii]

While we're on the topic of "unfair" 3rd party software, we might as well include YouTube, Warmane Forums, Google, elitist jerks, porn, and archive.org. It's not fair at all that people who have common sense use these resources to their advantage. Ban them all.

[DBUndeR]

This has been addressed, I don't know a million times now ? On retail there was a monthly subscription that put a cap on how many characters you could box.
For a 20+ MB setup you would pay over 250euro a month, which is unsustainable. So for you to claim that this is the way blizzard intended it is just as false.

So unsustainable that multiple people do it?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8H...XwFlpp8PlZqqQA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb1...w8sHddjiijqrKQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChv...058xFo0CCKLZjw

That 'cap' didn't do a very good job huh?

[Beanlord]

To be fair, and I'm sure you've witnessed this before, anything with a difficulty level above spray and pray is impossible for a lot of people.

Fair enough, but just because most find anything beyond "spray and pray" , as you put it, impossible, doesn't mean that their thread spamming is a valid reason to ban mbx-ing.
P.s. This is directed at the people who are for the ban, not towards you.

[Sixtyninee]

Fair enough, but just because most find anything beyond "spray and pray" , as you put it, impossible, doesn't mean that their thread spamming is a valid reason to ban mbx-ing.
P.s. This is directed at the people who are for the ban, not towards you.

Yeah, I couldn't think of a wow version of pray and spray so I went with that, and I agree that it gives them no valid reason to ban it. I don't multibox personally but I do PvP, less now than in previous years, and I've spent a lot of time farming multiboxers outside of ICC with 1-2 other people recently. My view on the situation is basically what I said earlier:

Stop being bad, get used to it, or quit playing. It's that simple. If you can't figure out how to counter someone who has no independent control over the characters then you should really rethink your approach. If it's obvious that you'll get one shot then try going somewhere else. Let them run around like an ***** and try capping bases or camp at one spot for the full round and be useless. But running in there without a plan of any sort and then blaming them is pretty stupid.

[QanqerOP]

So unsustainable that multiple people do it?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8H...XwFlpp8PlZqqQA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb1...w8sHddjiijqrKQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChv...058xFo0CCKLZjw

That 'cap' didn't do a very good job huh?

None of these clips are best in slot, and the way Blizzard progresses all realms with the same patches and expansions, those toons are already beyond useless. It's nothing compared to here where you can get best in slot, and be best in slot for life. I wonder if the guy from those clips is still paying for all those subscriptions, or IS it unsustainable after all ?

Yeah, I couldn't think of a wow version of pray and spray so I went with that, and I agree that it gives them no valid reason to ban it. I don't multibox personally but I do PvP, less now than in previous years, and I've spent a lot of time farming multiboxers outside of ICC with 1-2 other people recently. My view on the situation is basically what I said earlier:

http://armory.warmane.com/character/...s/achievements
0 Arena rating, and suggesting other people suck at pvp. edit/ not even 100 hkills, you have no idea what BG is like today...

[Sixtyninee]

http://armory.warmane.com/character/...s/achievements
0 Arena rating, and suggesting other people suck at pvp. edit/ not even 100 hkills, you have no idea what BG is like today...

Yes, the character I left on alliance because I quit playing it over a year ago. Let's use that as an example. Here, you can armory one of my alchemists too, I'm sure that'll be really relevant. This is almost as bad as your selective reading on Blizzard TOS.

[QanqerOP]

Yes, the character I left on alliance because I quit playing it over a year ago. Let's use that as an example. Here, you can armory one of my alchemists too, I'm sure that'll be really relevant. This is almost as bad as your selective reading on Blizzard TOS.

The point is you don't regularly PVP on ragnaros obviously, so this whole thread should not even concern you. You experience no toxic gameplay caused by multiboxing in PVE, who cares some MBX is solo'ing every raid, it does not spoil the gameplay for 10-40 other players.

[Kasumii]

http://armory.warmane.com/character/...s/achievements
0 Arena rating, and suggesting other people suck at pvp. edit/ not even 100 hkills, you have no idea what BG is like today...

Clever aren't we, checking the armory of a character that's no longer his main and hasn't been since the molten wipe. The truth shall set you free.

[Sixtyninee]

The point is you don't regularly PVP on ragnaros obviously, so this whole thread should not even concern you. You experience no toxic gameplay caused by multiboxing in PVE, who cares some MBX is solo'ing every raid, it does not spoil the gameplay for 10-40 other players.

I'm pretty sure that's just your assumption of me. And anyone with half a brain would know that multiboxing in pve is even dumber than pvp. Here's the main reason why multiboxing pve is stupid: Spread mechanics.

[Deathsmaster]

This has been addressed, I don't know a million times now ? On retail there was a monthly subscription that put a cap on how many characters you could box.
For a 20+ MB setup you would pay over 250euro a month, which is unsustainable. So for you to claim that this is the way blizzard intended it is just as false.

addressed a million times huh? your really gonna say that? lol like this topic hasn't? nothing more to say on the 3rd party software? change your tune pretty quick to something about money per month now... funny how you change your argument when something logical is pointed out. if they wanted to stop they would have. period, intended or unintended they don't mind it, only a few of you do, but only when the boxer is beating you mercilessly.

by all means tho keep pointing things out, i really enjoy turning it around on you.

250 might be unattainable for you, its not for some people.

but then again retail is on warlords and you want to play wrath.. hmmm, what to do......

But if you'd like to continue with your logic then I'm assuming that you're against using an operating system to play. I mean it's third-party after all. Let's not forget keyboards either, bindings are obviously faster so it's unfair. And seriously, do you even know what a bot is? Because it sure as hell isn't a HUD, which is all those addons provide.

I know your trying to be a smart ***, lol but idc, your reenforced my point, of calling his use of TOS kinda silly. Thanks!

I'm pretty sure that's just your assumption of me. And anyone with half a brain would know that multiboxing in pve is even dumber than pvp. Here's the main reason why multiboxing pve is stupid: Spread mechanics.

well thanks for calling me dumb lol

Spread mechanics. sometimes its a challenge, sometimes not, i can solo some stuff, some i can't. I choose to look at a game mechanic as something to try and come up with solutions for.

I enjoy PvE boxing. i think its silly to wait in que for a rdf, when i can solo them w/ a 5 man team, but I'm not here calling your chosen play style dumb...