God, you talk some mad ****. It's really amusing that you call me ignorant and blind and then pretend that people don't do those things. As for what I "probably" am? Well, you clearly haven't a clue, hence why you are guessing. But please, go ahead and assume whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
Edit1:I didn't say people don't exploit pve. Have you people even read my previous posts? I'm guessing not.
Edit2: And "multi rank 1 glad" doesn't mean people don't do that stuff in arenas either. I mean, it's pretty obvious when, season after season, out of the top 10 teams, maybe 2 won't be banned, and likely only one of them will have not-banned players who actually fit the criteria of earning a reward. It was that way on retail too, still is, and you're fooling yourselves if you honestly think that's not the case.
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im pretty sure the quote you did was me confirming there was a slight difference and what that difference was. maybe try reading my quote. jesus....
and you are on crack. plz share.
lord has the same core we will be going to and has lag issues. did you totally gloss over my entire last post that you quoted me on? good god what is with you people quoting me then answering your own damn question with what ive already said? pass the crack pipe to someone else...
ok this is starting to make zero sense. you disagree with me then agree with me? are you arguing with yourself? ok im sorry your not on crack your on acid. stop it.
FFA. everyone has a chance rather than no chance or 100% chance. because thats the options at this point. im sure my name will get ninjad again or maybe it would get saved by someone who likes me. idk i am apparently a polarizing person when it comes to the forums vs in game.
either way can care less about my stupid name. i just want what i see as the fairest option possible for everyone. people out there still missing their names after moltdown #1 and #2 who would like a shot at their names besides me. i can care less ill name it funky(something)
idk either. its absolutely ******ed. like inflation wont take over again? like screw you guys who have been working hard legit to regain all your gold. that is the most ignoramus thing i have ever heard if in fact it is true. If they continue with that train of thought and with everything else im moving to a new private server.
Seriously. This is where i am at.
I love my guild and i love most of the players here but its becoming full blown mental ******ation with these choices. sorry. ill call it what it is. im not talking mods or gms or any of that junk. im talking the people making these absolutely insane decisions that make zero sense at all.
dont get me started on lord. it is so full of *****s that i hate even looking at it on the realm list. id take deathwing players before them.
well idk cant speak about arena havent done it in a while but cheating is a hell of a lot less on retail vs here lets be honest. Look at all the guilds who never have videos or streams of any kill. same for a lot of the top rated arena players. i promise you this in my 4 years here i have seen enough to know who is full of crap and who is not. generally guilds and players who have videos and streams are more than likely legit or at least close to it enough to feel comfortable to post things (although this does not always work as you sometimes get GCD hackers streaming like *****s)
anyways... this merge is pointless and i dont care what kaer says about it. it wont save money. it wont be a god send. its going to just piss off a bunch of people.
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Except you actually do lack knowledge in the PvP scene. First of all, the majority of all the bans and team disbands have been undeserving (This was mostly the case Pre-Merge with AT), so you're already wrong. The best case would be to ''hire'' a rank 1 player who knows the players, has a lot of knowledge, has faced the players and actually has been to see what's going on, who has played it and plays it acitvely. Where do you get these ''facts'' from even? You're horrendously wrong because you DO lack A LOT of knowledge in the PvP scene so stop acting like you're right.
''It's pretty obvious after season, out of the top 10 teams, maybe 2 won't be banned, and likely only one of them will have not-banned players who actually fit the criteria of earning a reward''
So wrong, I shouldn't even have to point it out.
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Hahhahah have you actually even see the retail PvP scene?
The cheating here is a nail in a haystack if you compare it to retail.
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OH damn... I'll try to be more specific because you seem to blow your mind trying to prove yourself right even if you know you are not.
Confirming there was a "slight" difference? Let's take a look at what you've said:
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Then:Originally Posted by Funkymusic
First, let's get something clear, you're trying to make facts out of what's your mere opinion. What does "fresh" even mean, just-made code(?) C'mon...Originally Posted by Funkymusic
That guy and I have tried to explain to you that it isn't a "slight" difference, it's a quite big difference between both cores. Our current core is almost 5 years old and was build under MaNGOS with some Warmane fixes, meanwhile the current core that's being developed (Lordaeron) has been build from TrinityCore.
But it isn't TrinityCore at all, they have put their hands on almost everything just so it could fit their intentions and objetives, they have been porting some fixes that they had in their previous cores (Blackrock & Ragnaros) being previously updated and tested, and on most cases they've probably had to remake their code.
Reality: It isn't a "slight" difference, it's a quite big difference. Maybe that's what you think because you look at it as a player.
Now on regards of that "lag".
I meant it on a server-side, and had to agree with you on a client-side. As I've said, I'll try to explain myself better.
More players server-side won't mean more lag, it actually isn't called lag but performance issues. That's why this core has been developed to focus on a massive scale, so that way it can hold a big amount of players.
What I meant on a client-side, that's when I agreed with you, it's because of the amount of people on a same location might bring you performance issues.
What I'll beg you to do Funky, is to not argue about stuff you have no idea about. What pisses me off, is that you don't even show any respect and just go full toddler.
First of all, I'd like you to chill and talk as a human being.
Now on topic, just because you think it was "undeserving bans" doesn't mean it actually was, GMs had their very own reasons for doing those bans, unless you belive they do it just to keep things hot in the PvP scene, and no, it doesn't make anything that Lynea said wrong.
"The best case would be to hire a rank 1 player"... just take a minute to think on what you've just proposed, you want a player who has got Rank1 on X-season to give his approval to ban or not to ban certain people because he has played against them, don't you think there are plenty of people who get to play against those players and reports have been made what led to certain bans.
And lastly, you're giving your opinion to prove someone's opinion wrong, what just has no sense.
I have been following Retail's PvP scene for quite some months already, there are a lot of scripters and when it comes to competitive games, there have been a lot of DDoS attacks against almost every competitive player what led to some results that could haven't happen because of that DDoS.
I won't deny Retail's pvp scene is quite rotten, but they're trying quite hard to get rid of any scripting program and banning DDoS attackers.
Warmane does too, these guys try to do their best but they're humans too, they can't be monitoring each player to see if they're hacking or scripting, that's why they work on a better Warden system so the use of certain programs gets people automatically banned, and some more other ways to detect hackers.
Edit: typo.Edited: February 7, 2016
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u're wrong about cores. current dw/rag cores arent simply mangos. cores of those realms a product of merging of mangos and trinity cores ( was done around 2012-2013, after that shiet i quitted for 1 year from here srlsy). and about new trinity core - same bugs, same broken talents and shiet. the only difference between lord and dw/rag cores is - lord core is "pure" trinity core and dr/rag core "some mutant crazy shiet experiment" , lord wins since its easy to script. i dont even want to point out on those private servers which always used trinity core and in the end are better scripted than our server is
and btw - warden is fuken shiet. what can it do with those scripters?Edited: February 7, 2016
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A rank 1 player has more knowledge than a 1500 rated person who just accuses someone for being a cheater or hacker just because they lost.
''don't you think there are plenty of people who get to play against those players and reports have been made what led to certain bans.''
Repeat a lie until it becomes the truth. If you get 200 people who have no clue about reality reporting player X, the GM's will be forced to take actions because ''wow so many guis reporting something must be wrong XD''. The player who would be ''hired'' would obviously have to stop playing competitive, he would not telling Ban X or have the power to ban someone. He would have to have solid evidence and proof instead of having 200 people that have no clue what the reality of the situation is and reporting just of the bandwang or because they lost or want the players gone, writing in extremly broken english reporting 1 player and eventually leading to a ban.
And yes, 80% of the bans were undeserving.
People were getting banned for playing vs people in the same guild. Or if you have had any history of playing with them, or even if you have spoken to them or just being friends with the people you faced. Actually those bans just helped the actual cheaters.Edited: February 7, 2016
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Thanks for clarifying that it was a MaNGOS+TC mixture, but if I'm not mistaken MaNGOS was the base which they took to start that "experiment". I do think it worked to certain point, it has been the most stable private server that I've played at in the last 2 years.
The problem with Warmane was probably the previous administration (Hermes), it was a lot of years that we were stuck on the same place with no updates at all. I think Lordaeron is a parasite at the moment, I don't know if they have got a better revenue these past month but it's a good step for Wotlk realms. I mean, we will finally have a WORKING AS INTENDED wotlk core!
This current core from Lordaeron which used TrinityCore at the start has been gone under a lot of changes, I wouldn't like to call it TrinityCore any longer but it took plenty of TrinityCore code so... yeah.
Warden should be able to do the same with those scripts as it does with certain thrashy hacks (Insta-ban and an automated report sent to GMs for revision) but it doesn't, that's what I want to say it has been neglected. How is it doing in Lordaeron? I have no idea if Lordaeron has got some Warden update, I hope it has.
Ehhh... No, a rank1 player doesn't have more knowledge than someone with 1500 MMR. We could be talking about someone who hasn't played arenas at all with that character or even someone who just came to Warmane...
I don't know what you mean by repeating a lie until it becomes truth, a lie will always be a lie and the truth will always be the truth, until proven wrong.
Game Masters aren't forced to take actions but to take a look at all proof provided by those players, or even monitor our "reported" player.
It's just weird to think that it could be a mob that just wants to get X player banned, but GMs don't take actions just because of X amount of reports, they're forced to take a look at the proof. What I'm talking about is that there are people who report those guys with proof which can be a video, photos and/or more.
80% of those bans... I hate it when people brings numbers just to make their opinion look as the real deal. I don't know why you think those bans were because you talked with X player, or having them on your friend list (I don't think GMs can measure your friendship level to determine if you're a friend to X player).
Maybe those games were rigged games, and that's why they got banned. How did they find out those were rigged games? They were probably monitoring those players.Edited: February 7, 2016
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I'm just going to state some my reasons for wanting the merge:
1. 3v3 ladder will be [less in]active.
2. I won't be queueing into literally the same people in battlegrounds day in and day out (that really makes me not want to play).
3. It will encourage people to not win trade or find other illegitimate ways of gaining rating because they don't need to wait several hours.
However, I understand that others have their own reasons that I might not be aware of.
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Yeah, we all got our very own reasons to be against or with this idea. I belive with Lordaeron's core, population will grow.
I do have to disagree with you on:
"It will encourage people to not win trade or find other illegitimate ways of gaining rating because they don't need to wait several hours."
Doesn't people who win-trade do it because they don't want to face other teams, they want easy rating.
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oh im sorry i have to stoop to your level to get you to see things.
first off you imbecile i agreed with everything else you said.
secondly its the same crap core no matter how you look at it. 928391273896128736 bugs. please son. you know what my point was. "fresh" as in opportunities to make it work smoother than this current core which has a ton of modifications to it over the years. if i have to tiptoe through the tulips with ya to get you to see that its not worth my time.
specially since you decided arguing with yourself was a good idea i guess...
Magnos was mixed with TC. what do you think they are doing now with this TC? modding it to try to get it in line with retail correct? safe to say they are both pretty damn bugged right now. id still take rag/dw current core over this new core until more fixes arrive.
for the record i never said anything about client side or server side. so i guess that got thrown into my mouth. same **** different day with you people.
anyways the merge is still dumb and i have yet to see 1 real good argument for it.
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i highly doubt that. sorry 90% of the server here hacks or cheats and exploits (yall know it. so dont be like, its not that high funky....plz son). dont think retail has those kinds of numbers.
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It's both. There are those who do it for that and those who think about doing it because playing is basically impossible given how long the queues are.
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Literally 90% of the russian/german teams have a fly hacking healer in their team (blizzard doesn't care, max 48h ban) on EU retail and everyone is using kickbot from honorbuddy or something like that. On the other hand I doubt even 5% of the dw/ragn arena players are using scripts or melee range hack, whereas that number on blackrock is propably around 20%.
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stop denying it and agree with funky. He has dropped the facts and you can't say otherwise.
even if we know how big of a issue hacking is on retail since we keep track on it, he has just simply dropped the facts there's no point to continue
